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  • mayo49
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Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by HawkBearPig:
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by HawkBearPig:
Originally posted by hello49:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and I'll just add, that I think, at least in Kyle's offense, a QB using his athleticism to buy time in the pocket is much more valuable than being able to run for yardage on the ground.

One way to use a QB's athleticism is the Roman Offense with Lamar Jackson. But the guys that are winning super bowls are the guys that stay in the pocket.

Thats the beauty of fields: he is a pocket passer who also has elite athleticism. Why would you settle for Mac??

yeah can you imagine what our offense would look like if Jones was back there instead of Fields or Lance, and Mcglinchy has some bad games again?

I don't think it would be as bad as you think, not if Mac is able to find the hot read / open receiver and get rid of the ball quickly.

Except that the number suggest he isn't especially good when having to come off his first read.

Jones strength was his pre-snap reads. However, when that read wasn't there things didn't always turn out as well.

I suggest watching the JTO QB school break downs of Mac Jones. Lots of cut-ups in there of Mac going through progressions post-snap and hitting his 4th or 5th read.

You should watch them I think.



This video is full of him not getting past his first read, missing throws, passing up on the best choice, inaccurate throws, late throws, etc.

He's not very good.

Lack of arm strength is concerning, reminds me of Ken Dorsey - not good.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 12, 2021 at 1:16 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
Lack of arm strength is concerning, reminds me of Ken Dorsey - not good.

Don't be concerned. We ain't picking him.
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Lack of arm strength is concerning, reminds me of Ken Dorsey - not good.

Don't be concerned. We ain't picking him.

Hope your right, busta.
The more I watch Mac, the less I like him. Receivers bail him out so much. Lots of balls thrown behind guys or under-thrown and the receivers make great adjustments. Also seen quite a few dropped INTs that wouldn't be as likely in the NFL.
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Originally posted by a49erfan77:
The more I watch Mac, the less I like him. Receivers bail him out so much. Lots of balls thrown behind guys or under-thrown and the receivers make great adjustments. Also seen quite a few dropped INTs that wouldn't be as likely in the NFL.

Yeah, he really has a lot of flaws that are coming to the surface. I prefer Fields much more than Mac as far as arm strength and running ability.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 12, 2021 at 4:31 AM ]
If what Peter King is right when he says the 9ers haven't decided yet it tells me they don't love Mac Jones as much as it seems that most of the media believes.

Again assuming what King is saying is true I'd have to imagine they'd be all in at this point for Mac in the process if they loved him.

I still think Jones is firmly in the conversation but the debate among the 9ers might more between Fields and Lance since those two are in the same ballpark when it comes to prospects.
Originally posted by Jikkle49:
If what Peter King is right when he says the 9ers haven't decided yet it tells me they don't love Mac Jones as much as it seems that most of the media believes.

Again assuming what King is saying is true I'd have to imagine they'd be all in at this point for Mac in the process if they loved him.

I still think Jones is firmly in the conversation but the debate among the 9ers might more between Fields and Lance since those two are in the same ballpark when it comes to prospects.

We already have our pick. Last year we decided at the combine to take Bosa but still had the media guessing on draft day. We just don't tip our hands.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Apr 12, 2021 at 5:19 AM ]
Originally posted by Jikkle49:
If what Peter King is right when he says the 9ers haven't decided yet it tells me they don't love Mac Jones as much as it seems that most of the media believes.

Again assuming what King is saying is true I'd have to imagine they'd be all in at this point for Mac in the process if they loved him.

I still think Jones is firmly in the conversation but the debate among the 9ers might more between Fields and Lance since those two are in the same ballpark when it comes to prospects.

Yeah you don't request a prospect to hold a 2nd pro day, if you already have a name written down...Not 15 days before the draft and having a 99% chance of knowing who's picking who at 1 & 2..... I think the Mac Jones stuff was just media talk and people who know Kyle making an educated guess. Nothing more.

I'm sure they like all 3 guys for various reasons. I don't think they have a decision made though.
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by HawkBearPig:
Originally posted by boomer49er:
Originally posted by HawkBearPig:
Originally posted by hello49:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and I'll just add, that I think, at least in Kyle's offense, a QB using his athleticism to buy time in the pocket is much more valuable than being able to run for yardage on the ground.

One way to use a QB's athleticism is the Roman Offense with Lamar Jackson. But the guys that are winning super bowls are the guys that stay in the pocket.

Thats the beauty of fields: he is a pocket passer who also has elite athleticism. Why would you settle for Mac??

yeah can you imagine what our offense would look like if Jones was back there instead of Fields or Lance, and Mcglinchy has some bad games again?

I don't think it would be as bad as you think, not if Mac is able to find the hot read / open receiver and get rid of the ball quickly.

Except that the number suggest he isn't especially good when having to come off his first read.

Jones strength was his pre-snap reads. However, when that read wasn't there things didn't always turn out as well.

I suggest watching the JTO QB school break downs of Mac Jones. Lots of cut-ups in there of Mac going through progressions post-snap and hitting his 4th or 5th read.

You should watch them I think.



This video is full of him not getting past his first read, missing throws, passing up on the best choice, inaccurate throws, late throws, etc.

He's not very good.

Boomer,

No football fan, could watch that video and come to the conclusion you just came too. Without an agenda.

Not only can you easily see the qbs head changing targets, JTO even takes you though the likely reads and to the checkdowns. Even his one massive flub play was under pressure and JTO wasn't sure if it was a QB error or rout error.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Lack of arm strength is concerning, reminds me of Ken Dorsey - not good.

I get that vibe too. I don't think its Dorsey like arm, but I get that omg he barley made that vibe, just like we had with dorsey. We all watch barley made it turn into completely unfunctional

If he has an NFL arm (I think he does) it's just enough. I don't think he suffers many Injuries and maintains that just good enough arm.

I could easily see an injury that disrupts his game similar to what Jimmy G has to deal with.
Originally posted by Jikkle49:
If what Peter King is right when he says the 9ers haven't decided yet it tells me they don't love Mac Jones as much as it seems that most of the media believes.

Again assuming what King is saying is true I'd have to imagine they'd be all in at this point for Mac in the process if they loved him.

I still think Jones is firmly in the conversation but the debate among the 9ers might more between Fields and Lance since those two are in the same ballpark when it comes to prospects.
They knew who they were taking when they made the trade
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Originally posted by maxsmart:
Mac Jones will be a hall of fame QB and will win superbowls with the 49ers

Agree, with the right kind of personnel around him, he can do what you said above.
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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Jikkle49:
If what Peter King is right when he says the 9ers haven't decided yet it tells me they don't love Mac Jones as much as it seems that most of the media believes.

Again assuming what King is saying is true I'd have to imagine they'd be all in at this point for Mac in the process if they loved him.

I still think Jones is firmly in the conversation but the debate among the 9ers might more between Fields and Lance since those two are in the same ballpark when it comes to prospects.
They knew who they were taking when they made the trade

Agree. You don't give up 3 number ones without at least looking at the worst case scenario - ie who is the *worst* QB we can get at #3.
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Mac Jones will be a hall of fame QB and will win superbowls with the 49ers

Is it just me or do 95% of these 'highlight throws' end up needing the receiver to adjust to them?



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[ Edited by NYniner85 on Apr 12, 2021 at 7:09 AM ]
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