Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
They knew who they were taking when they made the trade

Disagree. They were confortable enough with at least 3 guys when they made the trade, though.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Mac Jones will be a hall of fame QB and will win superbowls with the 49ers

Agree, with the right kind of personnel around him, he can do what you said above.

Amazing.

Forget whether or not he can be a good player for several years. We're putting guys @ HOF level production now with barely a season of college played on Super Teams.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

taking mac jones is convincing yourself that you, kyle shanahan, are what matters. and if that's the case, you don't need the qb at no. 3 in the draft. https://t.co/pQiQaKwSgH

— bomani (@bomani_jones) April 12, 2021

100% if Shanahan believes he can win with anyone he wouldn't have traded up. Just taken the best QB at #12.

Originally posted by random49er:
Amazing.

Forget whether or not he can be a good player for several years. We're putting guys @ HOF level production now with barely a season of college played on Super Teams.

Jumping the f**king shark. lol

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by hello49:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and I'll just add, that I think, at least in Kyle's offense, a QB using his athleticism to buy time in the pocket is much more valuable than being able to run for yardage on the ground.

One way to use a QB's athleticism is the Roman Offense with Lamar Jackson. But the guys that are winning super bowls are the guys that stay in the pocket.

Thats the beauty of fields: he is a pocket passer who also has elite athleticism. Why would you settle for Mac??

yeah can you imagine what our offense would look like if Jones was back there instead of Fields or Lance, and Mcglinchy has some bad games again?

I don't think it would be as bad as you think, not if Mac is able to find the hot read / open receiver and get rid of the ball quickly.

Except that the number suggest he isn't especially good when having to come off his first read.

Jones strength was his pre-snap reads. However, when that read wasn't there things didn't always turn out as well.

I suggest watching the JTO QB school break downs of Mac Jones. Lots of cut-ups in there of Mac going through progressions post-snap and hitting his 4th or 5th read.

You should watch them I think.



This video is full of him not getting past his first read, missing throws, passing up on the best choice, inaccurate throws, late throws, etc.

He's not very good.

Boomer,

No football fan, could watch that video and come to the conclusion you just came too. Without an agenda.

Not only can you easily see the qbs head changing targets, JTO even takes you though the likely reads and to the checkdowns. Even his one massive flub play was under pressure and JTO wasn't sure if it was a QB error or rout error.

JTO also has about 4-5 sessions on all 3 guys now. He is equally critical of each QB, highlights their strengths and weaknesses with no bias. However if someone already have a defined bias watching any of his videos... they will just latch onto good plays and ignore the weaknesses for a prospect they like and vice versa for the one they dont.

Just my summary from the videos Ive watched of his... again anyone (zoners) can cherry pick plays to prove whichever point they want to make about these prospects but this was some of his points from an objective view.

Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

Fields - Great accuracy, great arm strength, obvious athleticism, DOES go through reads, however waits for guys to show they are about to be open. He can make crazy plays like hitting his receiver while running then falling backwards with a defender in his face, change his arm angle and still hit his target. But he also made a point that Fields will sometimes anticipate the rush and start scrambling putting himself in worse situations compared to keeping his eyes downfield. His criticism of other criticisms... Fields goes through progressions, he makes his reads and often times his first or second read is open or the line gives way before he can go through all the progressions leading him to bail from the pocket but sometime he bails too early.

Lance - Only watch two of his Lance videos so I wont speak much to them. My own Bias crept in due to the videos being long and my personal opinion is that if they are listening to trade offers for JG (even if it's a first) then Lance doesn't look like a fit for a win now SB roster. He pointed out the obvious athleticism and arm strength but harped on ball placement and touch. He has a tendancy to ground ball throws with that armstrength or take off too early. But also has allot of room to grow.

Anyways, take my summary with a grain of salt but DO watch those videos. They make allot of great points while also dispelling some of the popular criticisms of these prospects from a Pro point of view.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by hello49:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and I'll just add, that I think, at least in Kyle's offense, a QB using his athleticism to buy time in the pocket is much more valuable than being able to run for yardage on the ground.

One way to use a QB's athleticism is the Roman Offense with Lamar Jackson. But the guys that are winning super bowls are the guys that stay in the pocket.

Thats the beauty of fields: he is a pocket passer who also has elite athleticism. Why would you settle for Mac??

yeah can you imagine what our offense would look like if Jones was back there instead of Fields or Lance, and Mcglinchy has some bad games again?

I don't think it would be as bad as you think, not if Mac is able to find the hot read / open receiver and get rid of the ball quickly.

Except that the number suggest he isn't especially good when having to come off his first read.

Jones strength was his pre-snap reads. However, when that read wasn't there things didn't always turn out as well.

I suggest watching the JTO QB school break downs of Mac Jones. Lots of cut-ups in there of Mac going through progressions post-snap and hitting his 4th or 5th read.

You should watch them I think.



This video is full of him not getting past his first read, missing throws, passing up on the best choice, inaccurate throws, late throws, etc.

He's not very good.

Boomer,

No football fan, could watch that video and come to the conclusion you just came too. Without an agenda.

Not only can you easily see the qbs head changing targets, JTO even takes you though the likely reads and to the checkdowns. Even his one massive flub play was under pressure and JTO wasn't sure if it was a QB error or rout error.

JTO also has about 4-5 sessions on all 3 guys now. He is equally critical of each QB, highlights their strengths and weaknesses with no bias. However if someone already have a defined bias watching any of his videos... they will just latch onto good plays and ignore the weaknesses for a prospect they like and vice versa for the one they dont.

Just my summary from the videos Ive watched of his... again anyone (zoners) can cherry pick plays to prove whichever point they want to make about these prospects but this was some of his points from an objective view.

Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

Fields - Great accuracy, great arm strength, obvious athleticism, DOES go through reads, however waits for guys to show they are about to be open. He can make crazy plays like hitting his receiver while running then falling backwards with a defender in his face, change his arm angle and still hit his target. But he also made a point that Fields will sometimes anticipate the rush and start scrambling putting himself in worse situations compared to keeping his eyes downfield. His criticism of other criticisms... Fields goes through progressions, he makes his reads and often times his first or second read is open or the line gives way before he can go through all the progressions leading him to bail from the pocket but sometime he bails too early.

Lance - Only watch two of his Lance videos so I wont speak much to them. My own Bias crept in due to the videos being long and my personal opinion is that if they are listening to trade offers for JG (even if it's a first) then Lance doesn't look like a fit for a win now SB roster. He pointed out the obvious athleticism and arm strength but harped on ball placement and touch. He has a tendancy to ground ball throws with that armstrength or take off too early. But also has allot of room to grow.

Anyways, take my summary with a grain of salt but DO watch those videos. They make allot of great points while also dispelling some of the popular criticisms of these prospects from a Pro point of view.

All the things you mentioned here are exactly why drafting a QB is so hard. Any single one of those negatives could keep the player from reaching his potential. The teams are considering all those things plus others that we may not be aware of. We all think we know who would be the best pick but we don't. Neither do the coaches and GMs. The difference is, they're putting their futures' on the line. We aren't risking anything. They have to live with their decision while we can spend the next 2 or 3 years complaining on this forum if he doesn't become a pro bowler and lead us to the SB.

Originally posted by TheRickestRick
Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

When I watch Jones, I really don't see this consistently. Does he have some really nice throws that are very well placed? Yes. But more often his throws are short or behind guys. Throws that should be out in front of the receiver, but the WR has to turn his body back toward the QB to catch. They usually get completed because Smith/Waddle/Metchie have 2-3 yards of separation (or the DB has fallen down), but in the NFL, a lot of these passes would be broken up.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by HawkBearPig:

Originally posted by hello49:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, and I'll just add, that I think, at least in Kyle's offense, a QB using his athleticism to buy time in the pocket is much more valuable than being able to run for yardage on the ground.

One way to use a QB's athleticism is the Roman Offense with Lamar Jackson. But the guys that are winning super bowls are the guys that stay in the pocket.

Thats the beauty of fields: he is a pocket passer who also has elite athleticism. Why would you settle for Mac??

yeah can you imagine what our offense would look like if Jones was back there instead of Fields or Lance, and Mcglinchy has some bad games again?

I don't think it would be as bad as you think, not if Mac is able to find the hot read / open receiver and get rid of the ball quickly.

Except that the number suggest he isn't especially good when having to come off his first read.

Jones strength was his pre-snap reads. However, when that read wasn't there things didn't always turn out as well.

I suggest watching the JTO QB school break downs of Mac Jones. Lots of cut-ups in there of Mac going through progressions post-snap and hitting his 4th or 5th read.

You should watch them I think.



This video is full of him not getting past his first read, missing throws, passing up on the best choice, inaccurate throws, late throws, etc.

He's not very good.

Boomer,

No football fan, could watch that video and come to the conclusion you just came too. Without an agenda.

Not only can you easily see the qbs head changing targets, JTO even takes you though the likely reads and to the checkdowns. Even his one massive flub play was under pressure and JTO wasn't sure if it was a QB error or rout error.

Play 1:

Fine read and throw, but it was his initial read. The entire play was designed to open up that route across the middle and it worked. His eyes track Waddle through the entire route, it's the only read he's making.

Play 2:

Immediately he has Forristall WIDE OPEN right in front of him and he's looking at it. It's easier than any play he'll get on Sundays. One LB has sat down, the safety over the top is in full backpeddle, and 46 and turned completely around and it running down the field. Hit him there and it's a for sure first down and he's probably going to tack on an extra 15 or 20 in YAC if he doesn't take it to the house. Instead he checks down to Harris behind the LoS and Harris has to make an outstanding play to avoid losing yardage. The outcome of the play is ok, but just an example of Alabama being able to out talent Ole Miss here, not tremendous QB play.

Play 3:

It's an RPO and he throws it to Smith. It's not complicated and everyone can do it.

Play 4:

He misses Smith and it's not close. He's the best football player in college and he can't even bring this ball down. Then, he's incredulous looking at Jones saying "You need to throw it here." This is like shooting a three and missing the backboard high. A little bit of pressure, but nothing he isn't going to have to deal with on the next level. One read here.

Play 5:

He comes off the first read, but like I said that's when he's not as good anymore. He ends up throwing it late, behind, and doesn't have the arm strength to get it in. Oh, and he missed Waddle for a possible TD.

Play 6:

Nice play, but if he had the arm of the other guys he could have placed that at the pylon and it's a TD, not leading a guy out of bounds at the 5. He's not good on the move and he's not got the elite arm you need to be the #3 pick. That should be a TD all day. There was some pressure here, but if he's such a great pocket presence guy he should realize he doesn't need to scramble out. He's got room to step up and throw from a solid base and he's got a guy running wide open down the sideline. Deliver it. He's on that read the entire time.

Play 7:

First, he throws with bad mechanics here and there's no reason to be. No pressure at all. And like JTO says, it happened way more than he'd have expected. It comes in low and he has to take time to go down and get it before he can think about getting up field. Yeah, a completion and short gain, but the other QBs are getting it there a lot quicker and giving that guy a chance to do more. He's look at this guy from the start.

Play 8:

Good play. However, he couldn't have made a bad choice if he'd tried. Waddle was wide open too. Looks to me like this was the initial read.

Play 9:

Air mail. He's lucky he's got the best in the game out there to catch that because that 3rd down conversion is completely on Smith. It's his first read. This he threw it back shoulder on purpose? Why would he throw back shoulder when Smith is running ahead of the DB?

Play 10:

Why isn't that a TD? Because Mac Jones isn't accurate and doesn't have the arm to make it happen. First read, but everybody going deep is open. Should be a TD, but he's lucky it was even a catch.

Disagree with any of that? What do you see?

Alabama has great players and their offensive scheme is designed to open guys up. Jones understands what the offensive is doing and so he knows where the ball is supposed to go. Most times that ends up being open, and open by a lot. However, we have a name for that. System QB. When that first read isn't open his production goes way down, as that little blurb from PFF floating around this thread shows. Also, even on his initial reads he isn't particularly good at maximizing the potential of the play. Often times he delivers a sub-optimal ball that hinders the receivers ability to make gains. Over and over you see his get positive plays, but with outcomes that are CLEARLY not as good as they should have been. I just see Jones as being the clear #5 QB and a lot closer to 6-10 than 1-4. I think he ends up with a career like Alex Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick. He is well traveled and starts as a journeyman, but he's never anybody FQB. He fills the role for a time, and maybe even has a few seasons where the stars line up and he looks good, but the team is either looking for, or already has the next big thing. He's just limited and it shows on the tape. He's not a top 5 pick and I honestly doubt he's worth a 1st at all.

Originally posted by boomer49er:
Play 1:

Fine read and throw, but it was his initial read. The entire play was designed to open up that route across the middle and it worked. His eyes track Waddle through the entire route, it's the only read he's making.

Play 2:

Immediately he has Forristall WIDE OPEN right in front of him and he's looking at it. It's easier than any play he'll get on Sundays. One LB has sat down, the safety over the top is in full backpeddle, and 46 and turned completely around and it running down the field. Hit him there and it's a for sure first down and he's probably going to tack on an extra 15 or 20 in YAC if he doesn't take it to the house. Instead he checks down to Harris behind the LoS and Harris has to make an outstanding play to avoid losing yardage. The outcome of the play is ok, but just an example of Alabama being able to out talent Ole Miss here, not tremendous QB play.

Play 3:

It's an RPO and he throws it to Smith. It's not complicated and everyone can do it.

Play 4:

He misses Smith and it's not close. He's the best football player in college and he can't even bring this ball down. Then, he's incredulous looking at Jones saying "You need to throw it here." This is like shooting a three and missing the backboard high. A little bit of pressure, but nothing he isn't going to have to deal with on the next level. One read here.

Play 5:

He comes off the first read, but like I said that's when he's not as good anymore. He ends up throwing it late, behind, and doesn't have the arm strength to get it in. Oh, and he missed Waddle for a possible TD.

Play 6:

Nice play, but if he had the arm of the other guys he could have placed that at the pylon and it's a TD, not leading a guy out of bounds at the 5. He's not good on the move and he's not got the elite arm you need to be the #3 pick. That should be a TD all day. There was some pressure here, but if he's such a great pocket presence guy he should realize he doesn't need to scramble out. He's got room to step up and throw from a solid base and he's got a guy running wide open down the sideline. Deliver it. He's on that read the entire time.

Play 7:

First, he throws with bad mechanics here and there's no reason to be. No pressure at all. And like JTO says, it happened way more than he'd have expected. It comes in low and he has to take time to go down and get it before he can think about getting up field. Yeah, a completion and short gain, but the other QBs are getting it there a lot quicker and giving that guy a chance to do more. He's look at this guy from the start.

Play 8:

Good play. However, he couldn't have made a bad choice if he'd tried. Waddle was wide open too. Looks to me like this was the initial read.

Play 9:

Air mail. He's lucky he's got the best in the game out there to catch that because that 3rd down conversion is completely on Smith. It's his first read. This he threw it back shoulder on purpose? Why would he throw back shoulder when Smith is running ahead of the DB?

Play 10:

Why isn't that a TD? Because Mac Jones isn't accurate and doesn't have the arm to make it happen. First read, but everybody going deep is open. Should be a TD, but he's lucky it was even a catch.

Disagree with any of that? What do you see?

Alabama has great players and their offensive scheme is designed to open guys up. Jones understands what the offensive is doing and so he knows where the ball is supposed to go. Most times that ends up being open, and open by a lot. However, we have a name for that. System QB. When that first read isn't open his production goes way down, as that little blurb from PFF floating around this thread shows. Also, even on his initial reads he isn't particularly good at maximizing the potential of the play. Often times he delivers a sub-optimal ball that hinders the receivers ability to make gains. Over and over you see his get positive plays, but with outcomes that are CLEARLY not as good as they should have been. I just see Jones as being the clear #5 QB and a lot closer to 6-10 than 1-4. I think he ends up with a career like Alex Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick. He is well traveled and starts as a journeyman, but he's never anybody FQB. He fills the role for a time, and maybe even has a few seasons where the stars line up and he looks good, but the team is either looking for, or already has the next big thing. He's just limited and it shows on the tape. He's not a top 5 pick and I honestly doubt he's worth a 1st at all.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

taking mac jones is convincing yourself that you, kyle shanahan, are what matters. and if that's the case, you don't need the qb at no. 3 in the draft. https://t.co/pQiQaKwSgH

— bomani (@bomani_jones) April 12, 2021

100% if Shanahan believes he can win with anyone he wouldn't have traded up. Just taken the best QB at #12.

Why does it have to be anyone? Why can't shanahan pinpoint a qb that can run his offense at its highest efficiency? Shanahan already knows he can't win with anyone. See beathard and Mullens. Weak point.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick
Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

When I watch Jones, I really don't see this consistently. Does he have some really nice throws that are very well placed? Yes. But more often his throws are short or behind guys. Throws that should be out in front of the receiver, but the WR has to turn his body back toward the QB to catch. They usually get completed because Smith/Waddle/Metchie have 2-3 yards of separation (or the DB has fallen down), but in the NFL, a lot of these passes would be broken up.

You are confusing fields with jones as ball placement is one of his biggest issues.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick
Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

When I watch Jones, I really don't see this consistently. Does he have some really nice throws that are very well placed? Yes. But more often his throws are short or behind guys. Throws that should be out in front of the receiver, but the WR has to turn his body back toward the QB to catch. They usually get completed because Smith/Waddle/Metchie have 2-3 yards of separation (or the DB has fallen down), but in the NFL, a lot of these passes would be broken up.

I don't see his having the arm strength to make all the throws at an NFL level. I've seen too many out routes that don't have the zip on them. Not a problem when the guy has time to eat a protein bar before the defense gets to him, but in the NFL that's a dangerous pass if it doesn't get there with some mustard.

And I'll say it again, when he has to come off that first read (the one he already had in his mind presnap based on the offense) his quality goes down noticeably.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick
Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

When I watch Jones, I really don't see this consistently. Does he have some really nice throws that are very well placed? Yes. But more often his throws are short or behind guys. Throws that should be out in front of the receiver, but the WR has to turn his body back toward the QB to catch. They usually get completed because Smith/Waddle/Metchie have 2-3 yards of separation (or the DB has fallen down), but in the NFL, a lot of these passes would be broken up.

You are confusing fields with jones as ball placement is one of his biggest issues.

I haven't watched Fields film yet, nor does he have Smith/Waddle/Metchie.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by TheRickestRick
Jones - Good decision making, hits multiple reads, great ball placement but can be mechanically inconsistent on longballs (dips his shoulder) which causes him to come up short on some longballs. He has the arm strength to make all the throws, but isnt gonna scramble and hit a 60 yarder on the run. But then says no OC draws up 60 yards in the air type plays, if you can hit guys at 50 yards in stride that is what is more important. His criticism of other criticisms... the mobility issue, said it's not as big a deal cause with the quick release and his quick decision making he does a good job dumping the ball off to the RB or throws it away to avoid taking the sack.

When I watch Jones, I really don't see this consistently. Does he have some really nice throws that are very well placed? Yes. But more often his throws are short or behind guys. Throws that should be out in front of the receiver, but the WR has to turn his body back toward the QB to catch. They usually get completed because Smith/Waddle/Metchie have 2-3 yards of separation (or the DB has fallen down), but in the NFL, a lot of these passes would be broken up.

To be fair, that shows up on everyones film. It's also what makes it hard to judge as well... these guys are college QBs not pros. As much as we want them to be perfect out the gate they are all going to have bad decisions, bad throws, etc. on film to point at. Again take my opinion with a grain of salt but I think Mac seems to place the ball where guys can keep running with it the most where as Fields has that arm strength to where he is just as accurate but puts the ball "on" his guys more often (compared to a foot or two in front).

But that also could be due to the style of thrower they are, like Mac doesnt have a rocket so he throws a more catchable/touch type ball where his guys can run into the catch where as Fields has that rocket and drives the ball into the receiver on similar throws. Both styles have pros and cons, Mac will really have to rely on a quick release, prove his anticipation and knowledge of the defense to keep defenders from having time to attack the ball while its in the air. Fields on the other hand can drive the ball into guys but will have to keep an eye on floating LBs because those throws dont have the same height and if its not on their receiver, the velocity could lead to more tipped balls going into defenders hands. Both styles can get the ball where it needs to go. Just up to those guys to use their other skills like anticipation or reading through the disguised defense to minimize the risk of their style at the NFL level.

just another reason why evaluating is so hard cause anyone can nitpick these guys into oblivion and make all 3 QB prospects look undeserving of being a FQB.

Kyle Shanahan watches Salah embarrass smart pocket passers with middling arms for 4 years and then decides to bet his whole future on a smart pocket passer with a middling arm because he believes this particular smart pocket passer with a middling arm - a kid whose all world WRs almost always beat their coverage during the one season he started in college - will lead him to the Super Bowl is honestly mind boggling. Not more mind boggling than that sentence, but close.