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Apr 15, 2021 at 5:09 PM

gold49digger
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Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
I don't think anyone twisted Mac's arm to be in this video...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29365340/alabama-players-saban-anti-racism-video

Funny how people want to talk race and football. You post this and no one wants to talk about it

Plus you hear his teammates love him. I get that people don't want Mac, I certainly don't at 3, but im pretty sure he isn't racist. His teammates would've caught on easily.

Edit: holy crap look at that like to dislike ratio though 😳

[ Edited by gold49digger on Apr 15, 2021 at 5:10 PM ]

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:09 PM

#10367

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
How is this sort of stuff any different that Orlovsky running down Fields for supposed issues with his work ethic?

well first off we don't know what these other issues are...all we know of is a DUI, some political stuff/deleted tweets There could be other things behind closed doors that you only find out by looking. Tony pauline a week or two ago said SF was looking into his background for stuff...I'm sure every single team is doing this for every player all the same.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:10 PM

#10368

DaBeegDeek
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The dude is trash why cant yall get over it already? You tied your wagon to the wrong horse, but theres still time to jump off.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:10 PM

#10369

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"It's not the only thing Mac has to explain to future NFL employers."

How is this sort of stuff any different that Orlovsky running down Fields for supposed issues with his work ethic?

I mean one is based on things that actually happened (like 8 years ago) vs stuff that seems to be complete contrived. I don't think this will matter, but there are character concerns. He may have moved passed that, which I'm sure he'll say, but it is an interesting commentary about white/black QBs and the level of rigor required to be a "leader".

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:11 PM

#10370

jcs
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Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I've seen the photo from 2012 that Mac Jones' sister tweeted.

Don't know for sure that's Mac in the costume.

It's not the only thing Mac has to explain to future NFL employers.
— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) April 15, 2021

He is going to have to explain why he was drafted so high.

I wonder if Albright will get criticized like Orlovsky?

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:12 PM

#10371

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
well first off we don't know what these other issues are...all we know of is a DUI, some political stuff/deleted tweets There could be other things behind closed doors that you only find out by looking. Tony pauline a week or two ago said SF was looking into his background for stuff...I'm sure every single team is doing this for every player all the same.

You can literally say the same about any player. Allbright hasn't provided any proof, its just unsourced innuendo. Its strange to see you here hungrily lapping it up after complaining about Orlovsky doing the same thing.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:14 PM

#10372

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by jcs:
I wonder if Albright will get criticized like Orlovsky?

Why? It's an an actual story...

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:15 PM

#10373

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Why? It's an an actual story...

We don't know who that is in the costume first of all, second of all, around this time Jones was 13 years old. Do we need to start doing detailed investigations into what every single one of these prospects was doing in middle school? I always thought stuff like that was self-explanatory but perhaps not.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:16 PM

#10374

49ersRing
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
well first off we don't know what these other issues are...all we know of is a DUI, some political stuff/deleted tweets There could be other things behind closed doors that you only find out by looking. Tony pauline a week or two ago said SF was looking into his background for stuff...I'm sure every single team is doing this for every player all the same.

You can literally say the same about any player. Allbright hasn't provided any proof, its just unsourced innuendo. Its strange to see you here hungrily lapping it up after complaining about Orlovsky doing the same thing.

There's no similarity between the two situations.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:17 PM

#10375

NYniner85
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Originally posted by krizay:
So we don't know if it was McCorkle? So it was posted before it was vetted? I see

It was posted in 2012, it was him tagged in it. No Albright doesn't know if it's actually him...it's not the end of the world he was a kid. He also deleted a bunch of tweets form as early as august-January of this yr reportedly. Albright has said there's other issues he's need to explain to teams...is what it is.

when you're planning on making a kid the face of your team for the next decade and there's 4 other QBs (and you possibly have all graded similar) anything can change opinions on any player.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:18 PM

#10376

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Why? It's an an actual story...

We don't know who that is in the costume first of all, second of all, around this time Jones was 13 years old. Do we need to start doing detailed investigations into what every single one of these prospects was doing in middle school? I always thought stuff like that was self-explanatory but perhaps not.

I guess to each their own, but a QB is essentially a de facto CEO. Perception is a big part of the hiring process. Yes, I'd ask. It could be someone else (which I'm sure he'll say). But it would probably lead to more investigation.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:19 PM

#10377

Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
So we don't know if it was McCorkle? So it was posted before it was vetted? I see

It was posted in 2012, it was him tagged in it. No Albright doesn't know if it's actually him...it's not the end of the world he was a kid. He also deleted a bunch of tweets form as early as august-January of this yr reportedly. Albright has said there's other issues he's need to explain to teams...is what it is.

when you're planning on making a kid the face of your team for the next decade and there's 4 other QBs (and you possibly have all graded similar) anything can change opinions on any player.

Unless he elaborates on what these other issues are, this is just the same sort of "I've heard things" logic that Orlovsky used, that people complained that he didn't vet properly before running with it.

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:19 PM

#10378

krizay
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
well first off we don't know what these other issues are...all we know of is a DUI, some political stuff/deleted tweets There could be other things behind closed doors that you only find out by looking. Tony pauline a week or two ago said SF was looking into his background for stuff...I'm sure every single team is doing this for every player all the same.

You can literally say the same about any player. Allbright hasn't provided any proof, its just unsourced innuendo. Its strange to see you here hungrily lapping it up after complaining about Orlovsky doing the same thing.

There's no similarity between the two situations.

You're correct. Orlovsky was reporting what he had heard from a source. Albright posted a post from McCorkle's sister

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:20 PM

#10379

random49er
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"It's not the only thing Mac has to explain to future NFL employers."

How is this sort of stuff any different that Orlovsky running down Fields for supposed issues with his work ethic?

That was a rumor with no substance behind it. An "I heard" that we've heard year after year with minority QBs. Night & Day.

If it's the same,...then you actually agree with teams drilling him on asking questions about this stuff,...because of course it's fair game to drill them about their work ethic and rumblings about it.

[ Edited by random49er on Apr 15, 2021 at 5:21 PM ]

Apr 15, 2021 at 5:21 PM

#10380

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"It's not the only thing Mac has to explain to future NFL employers."

How is this sort of stuff any different that Orlovsky running down Fields for supposed issues with his work ethic?

I mean one is based on things that actually happened (like 8 years ago) vs stuff that seems to be complete contrived. I don't think this will matter, but there are character concerns. He may have moved passed that, which I'm sure he'll say, but it is an interesting commentary about white/black QBs and the level of rigor required to be a "leader".

All we know that happened is his sister posted a picture on Twitter and tagged his account in her post. We literally don't know anything else about this, there is literally zero context.