Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by wolfpack2192:

Originally posted by Zealot:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Zealot:
Maybe Kyle would be just as pissed that fans think they know better how to evaluate what he can and can't do with a given QB.

"Kyle Shanahan can win w/ any QB"

W-L as play caller by QB

2-10 CJ Beathard
7-12 Brian Hoyer
5-11 Nick Mullens
22-8 Jimmy G
19-13 Matt Ryan
0-2 Johnny Manziel
0-1 Connor Shaw
12-16 RGIII
6-10 Rex Grossman
5-8 McNabb
1-3 Kirk Cousins
0-3 John Beck
15-12 Matt Schaub
2-3 Rosenfels

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) April 7, 2021

I have never said Kyle can win with any QB and if I understand correctly, only a couple of those guys were personally selected by him. I don't think anyone was expecting CJ or BDN to be franchise guys. With this #3 pick we're talking about a guy who is expected to be THE guy.

I gotta say this as well, the W-L column doesn't tell the entire story for each QB. For example CJ is not a franchise QB but he out performed any QB selected after him except Mullens. He even outperformed another QB picked ahead of him from a league standpoint. Some of that was because if injuries to Jimmy of course. Some games Were 20+ or 30+ pt games and the opposition scored above that. Ridiculous. Different talent on teams obviously affects this. Mac can win with Kyle, all he has to do is execute Kyle's system. Jimmy does relatively well when healthy but he still misses plays constantly.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
No one knows how it's going to turn out. But you guys sure like to pretend you do. It's cute. Luckily fans get no say so.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle still put up some pretty great stats for all those guys despite their monster limitations and expectations. He got more out of every one of them than anyone and THAT is why he believes in his system. So whomever he picks, we already know he's going to get the most out of. And whomever he picks, he's going to believe gives him the best option to maximize his offense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Poor guy hasn't even takin a snap yet and he's hated. Hell he isn't even on the team.

Let the real fans cheer for their team. The rest will bandwagon jump when we start winning.

Bandwagon lol. I've rooted for jeff kemp, Bono, Grbac, Dorsey, dilfer, Troy Smith, alex Smith, Garcia, JTO, Rattay, f**king Shaun Hill, Kap, Gabbert, Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens, Jimmy etc...

sorry some fans are f**king done with avg QBs with limited ceilings...we've been waiting 20+ yrs for SF to make a legit play at a top rookie QB with elite talents and a high ceiling. Sorry we see other teams have QBs that can make s**t happen with unlimited potential.

what's so wrong with wanting MORE vs another system QB with no elite traits and a limited ceiling? It's alex Smith vs Rogers all over again (worse actually with what we've given up) how do you not see this?

You don't know dick about how anyone is going to turn out. I'll give who ever we draft a chance and will be here when everyone jumps back on the wagon.

Who's jumping off the "bandwagon" that's such a stupid thing to say. Did you not read the names of the past QBs that people HAVE rooted for? Were you around for that b******t? I was and remained a fan. I'm still gonna be a massive 49er fan...I'm not spending money to watch McCorkle though.

Mac will have to be Tom Brady for him to be worth 3 1st rd picks...he's about as limited as you get at QB now with who is coming out. It's cool Kyle has passed on 4 QBs that you could argue are top 5/6 in the league right now...all because he wants a system QB.

people simply want more than the same s**t...they want the potential for top 5. They want a top end arm talent. They want someone who CAN make s**t happen with the offense isn't running smoothly. They want someone that doesn't need an all-star roster or can overcome when injuries happen.

what's the problem for wanting elite traits and a high ceiling? That's what you should be spending for...not a Mac Jones level talent.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
It's cute when you pretend to know these guys. Best part of coming in here is how much you have no idea but pound the table like you do.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Zealot:

Originally posted by krizay:

While Mac Jones isn't a "running quarterback" he's athletic enough to maneuver the pocket and extend plays. He also isn't a bad thrower when on the run. This is great accuracy by him on the run to put the ball in the perfect spot for the touchdown catch and toe drag. pic.twitter.com/kcHziwzHwy

— Nate Christian (@NateNFL) April 21, 2021

A thing of beauty.

Sprint right option on time.

Slow motion noodle arm

Originally posted by NCommand:
Perfect timing, arm strength and accuracy.

How dare he execute as drawn up. He was supposed to scramble around for 10 seconds and eventually run it in and crack his ribs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

It's cute when you pretend to know these guys. Best part of coming in here is how much you have no idea but pound the table like you do.

And you just grab onto Kyle's nuts even though he's got 3 10 loss seasons...more than any HC in SF history.

you don't have to drink the kool-aid just because Kyle is making it...pretty sure you were the same guy saying Jimmy wasn't going anywhere too lol. I'm sure you though every QB I mentioned over the past 20 yrs was gonna be great too.

like I said it's cute that you think Mac with be Brady

Originally posted by NCommand:
Perfect timing, arm strength and accuracy.

How dare he execute as drawn up. He was supposed to scramble around for 10 seconds and eventually run it in and crack his ribs.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Zealot:

Originally posted by krizay:

While Mac Jones isn't a "running quarterback" he's athletic enough to maneuver the pocket and extend plays. He also isn't a bad thrower when on the run. This is great accuracy by him on the run to put the ball in the perfect spot for the touchdown catch and toe drag. pic.twitter.com/kcHziwzHwy

— Nate Christian (@NateNFL) April 21, 2021

A thing of beauty.

Sprint right option on time.

Slow motion noodle arm

Perfect timing, arm strength and accuracy.

How dare he execute as drawn up. He was supposed to scramble around for 10 seconds and eventually run it in and crack his ribs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
And I can literally find clips of every QB doing that same play...I can find dudes outside of the 1st rd making that same play.

But he's white and non athletic so it's super heady...guess what there's athletic QBs that make that same throw. But yeah narratives and stereotypes are normal in here

but hes black and athletic he can't do this

#OhioState QB Justin Fields — Red zone situation.

Escape/extend — with the eyes up. ID the open void, throw with touch/location. @NFLMatchup pic.twitter.com/cCNHMXkY1Z

— Matt Bowen (@MattBowen41) April 7, 2021

Wait only white heady QBs can see a blitz and change the play

Justin Fields red zone TD. pic.twitter.com/jsFrTnsh6O

— Derrik Klassen (@QBKlassClips) November 3, 2020

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Only person comparing him to Brady is the guy pretending to know him. It's fine I'll still be here when you come back to the bandwagon.

Originally posted by rathman4481:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

And I can literally find clips of every QB doing that same play...I can find dudes outside of the 1st rd making that same play.

But he's white and non athletic so it's super heady...guess what there's athletic QBs that make that same throw. But yeah narratives and stereotypes are normal in here

but hes black and athletic he can't do this

#OhioState QB Justin Fields — Red zone situation.

Escape/extend — with the eyes up. ID the open void, throw with touch/location. @NFLMatchup pic.twitter.com/cCNHMXkY1Z

— Matt Bowen (@MattBowen41) April 7, 2021

Wait only white heady QBs can see a blitz and change the play

Justin Fields red zone TD. pic.twitter.com/jsFrTnsh6O

— Derrik Klassen (@QBKlassClips) November 3, 2020

Bringing race into the discussion

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
It's cute when you pretend to know these guys. Best part of coming in here is how much you have no idea but pound the table like you do.

And you just grab onto Kyle's nuts even though he's got 3 10 loss seasons...more than any HC in SF history.

you don't have to drink the kool-aid just because Kyle is making it...pretty sure you were the same guy saying Jimmy wasn't going anywhere too lol. I'm sure you though every QB I mentioned over the past 20 yrs was gonna be great too.

like I said it's cute that you think Mac with be Brady

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Only person comparing him to Brady is the guy pretending to know him. It's fine I'll still be here when you come back to the bandwagon.

So if he's Kirk you're gonna be super happy? There's a reason traits and upside matter...I'm sure you'll make excuses if he's not some special QB much like you did with Jimmy.

Stop with the silly bandwagon comment lol. Who said they weren't gonna be fans of the team? Literally that's your only debate on this subject. Like half of us weren't fans for a long time.