Mac Jones-QB-49ers

Originally posted by Chance:
Wonder if Burrow could have avoided significant injury had he possessed better physical traits to escape the pocket?

Also, if there were a redraft today, Herbert would be the pick.

You mean like Dak?

Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:
Poor guy hasn't even takin a snap yet and he's hated. Hell he isn't even on the team.

Let the real fans cheer for their team. The rest will bandwagon jump when we start winning.

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Bandwagon lol. I've rooted for jeff kemp, Bono, Grbac, Dorsey, dilfer, Troy Smith, alex Smith, Garcia, JTO, Rattay, f**king Shaun Hill, Kap, Gabbert, Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens, Jimmy etc...

sorry some fans are f**king done with avg QBs with limited ceilings...we've been waiting 20+ yrs for SF to make a legit play at a top rookie QB with elite talents and a high ceiling. Sorry we see other teams have QBs that can make s**t happen with unlimited potential.

what's so wrong with wanting MORE vs another system QB with no elite traits and a limited ceiling? It's alex Smith vs Rogers all over again (worse actually with what we've given up) how do you not see this?

My favorite guys. "I love my team more than you because I question nothing and I won't have any opinion that differs from my coach" 🐑

Bingo.

And I bet if you look. back there's definitely some criticism from these same people on former coaches/players etc but I guess it's just people who disagree with them that are bandwagon fans. FOH

I am rollin with Nolan

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Wrong. Please explain in your infinite wisdom what should be expected. But don't aim too high, wouldn't want too high of expectations from the greatest processing, most NFL-ready QB in the draft. Aim low to protect McPorky from scrutiny. Lol.

OP says Mac Jones needs to match the all time rookie stat record set by Herbert or he's a fail but I guess the 6-9 record Herbert finished with was ok.

Oh yes, QBs are the only ones responsible for wins and losses. Forgot. ✅

Two losses by 3, one loss by 1 point. Swings that to 9-6.

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by jcs:

The #49ers have reportedly concluded their predraft meetings and have decided who they are taking with the No. 3 overall pick, per @JFowlerESPN

H/T @BleacherReport pic.twitter.com/xa7hF3MLBJ

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers_) April 25, 2021

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Keep signing that petition guys....

Glad it's decisive enough they finished early.

I'm hearing it's between Jones and Lance. Not Fields

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Chance:
Wonder if Burrow could have avoided significant injury had he possessed better physical traits to escape the pocket?

Also, if there were a redraft today, Herbert would be the pick.

You mean like Dak?

Dak isn't nearly the athlete that Fields/Lance are.

Also my argument isn't that athletes are impervious to serious injury, it's that escapability, agility, strength all are advantages to avoiding injuries. Care to disagree?

Still can't believe we have alleged "fans" who don't think Joe Montana was athletic.

The pick is in, and the answer is on the first page of this thread from back in November:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Jones is definitely much more in line with what Kyle wants from a QB than all of the top guys not named Trevor Lawrence.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like I said who else is there in the league? You didn't answer my question. Matt ryan? That's what you're hoping for...you didn't answer my question about PP??? You complained about it for 2 yrs...you think kyle changes his ways? I don't...Jones NEEDS to have structure. He needs to use all his mechanics and to be able to set his feet to make accurate throws and passes downfield...how in gods green earth is he gonna have that here? What he has in Bama is NOT what he's gonna have here and you KNOW this.

the league is changing. The kids that are learning to play QB ARE young athletic talents, they're learning to play the position from the head up as well...if you don't believe me go do some research on the 5 star recruits coming up. Go listen to Dilfer who runs elite 11.

My God man, just look at the playoffs this past year: Brady, Brees, Ben, Rivers.

Haha, can I play too? Jackson, Mahomes, Allen. Terrible argument.

Originally posted by Heroism:
The pick is in, and the answer is on the first page of this thread from back in November:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Jones is definitely much more in line with what Kyle wants from a QB than all of the top guys not named Trevor Lawrence.

It certainly adds up. It, unfortunately, will mean that Kyle, the savant, is now easily predictable, the trend of bidding against oneself to move up for system fits continue, and we've developed internal leaks. Yay.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by boomer49er:
If Mac is drafted and doesn't win the division in his first year playing, then Kyle and Lynch should be fired.

No honeymoon when you go against what the fans want and don't get immediate success. The half filled stadium will be full of boo birds. Bad look.

Lol, it doesn't work like that. He could care less what the fans want. You think if he chooses the QB the fans want and he turns out to be a bust. He'll say it wasn't my fault, it's the fans fault to Jed. Ok boomer

I think you don't know how this works. Guess who pays the bills for a football team. The fans. They stop showing up, stop tuning in, and stop buying merch and guess who quick the owner is going to s**t-can everyone involved.

But please, do go on about how owners don't care about what fans think about the team.

You trade up with all that draft capital, and then draft a guy 95% of the fans HATE, and then the team is worse than when the guy he replaced was there.....What's there to look forward to? You aren't getting any new players because you don't have picks and can't afford high priced FA's and they don't want to come anyway.

You better be damn sure he's going to be Manning or else you're fired and nobody is EVER going to hire either of them to run a franchise again.

Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:

Originally posted by jcs:

The #49ers have reportedly concluded their predraft meetings and have decided who they are taking with the No. 3 overall pick, per @JFowlerESPN

H/T @BleacherReport pic.twitter.com/xa7hF3MLBJ

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers_) April 25, 2021

Keep signing that petition guys....

Glad it's decisive enough they finished early.

I'm hearing it's between Jones and Lance. Not Fields

What it sounds like it's been from the get go.

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Haha, can I play too? Jackson, Mahomes, Allen. Terrible argument.

Jackson's been turrible in the playoffs. Thus far he's looked like a regular season stud, postseason dud. And if your guy can't get it done in the playoffs then what has this even been all about?

Originally posted by Chance:
Dak isn't nearly the athlete that Fields/Lance are.

Also my argument isn't that athletes are impervious to serious injury, it's that escapability, agility, strength all are advantages to avoiding injuries. Care to disagree?

Lol whatevs Bro. Change your argument all you like. Dak had the physical traits to escape the pocket and was significantly injured.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2021/04/12/san-francisco-49-ers-trade-mac-jones-nfl-draft-kyle-caskey-detroit-lions/7191233002/
"I can see (why the 49ers traded up)," Caskey said Monday. "The way the draft works, I can totally see it. Especially if one of those teams has met with him like I've met with him and they see that kind of stuff, I can see where they would feel comfortable with that. He's a fairly safe pick. He's not a (guy) that would go off the rails or something."

"This guy, he's sharp, now," Caskey said. "He doesn't have the (Matthew) Stafford arm to him, I get it, but not a lot of them do. I think the mental side of this kid is, as long as he stays humble and where he's at right now and wants to learn, I think he'll be fine. Cause he's been asking me if I wanted to Zoom again and I'm like, 'You just tell me, we'll Zoom any time.'"

Caskey responsibilities as Lions running backs coach included putting together the team's weekly protection tape, where he identified different blitzes opponents might use and the Lions' counters to those rushes. He said Jones showed an uncanny ability to recognize blitzes and talk through the protections.
"It was a great game to talk about blitz diagnosis and seeing rotations and different things, cause they had every blitz known to man, every different front," Caskey said. "They just were having fun with us that day. And then that's not even to say that (Tom) Brady threw for 390 yards in the first half or whatever.

As an example, Caskey pointed to Jones' detailed dissection of double-A gap blitz concepts, where defenses deploy two linebackers on either side of the center and blitz from a variety of spots in the front seven.
"He started talking about those and how they picked them up and all the different pick games that guys run inside," Caskey said. "And he's like, 'Man, this one where they bring both the end and the tackle in and they step them up and they loop them around,' he goes, 'We never could pick that up.' It was cool to see him explain things."

Most NFL observers expect Jones to be the third quarterback off the board, ahead of Fields and Lance, and Caskey said Jones seems like a good fit for Shanahan's offense in San Francisco.
"Really, the guy is one of the smarter guys that I've been around at this point in his career," Caskey said. "He knows languages within different systems and he's spitting out different teams' offenses. He knew, when I would bring up these crazy blitzes that we had to pick up in the NFL and I would show him video, he would diagnose quite a few of them. There were a few I needed to kind of push him a little bit on, but he really sees things at a much higher level than a lot of people that I've seen come out as a rookie quarterback, and the good thing about that is, that's going to help him play faster, quicker.

"Once he gets into a system and he knows, that's my language, I think he's going to be pretty good right off the bat. If he does end up having to sit behind somebody, it won't be for very long."

This is probably the only good and honest content from this guy.