Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bison645:
I just don't see any arm talent with this guy. He makes good throws to first reads, in clean pockets, but when the play breaks down, or the throw is difficult, he's barely hitting those receivers. His arm is like a post shoulder injury alex smith, minus Alex's athletic ability. I'm just not seeing the high floor everyone is talking about, when his arm is meh. I think he would make a solid backup in the NFL, but he will always have a bottom tier arm (25-32) at the next level. Solid pass for me.

But bro, he played tennis with his family while growing up, so his footwork in the pocket is elite.

Originally posted by Furlow:

But bro, he played tennis with his family while growing up, so his footwork in the pocket is elite.

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bison645:
I just don't see any arm talent with this guy. He makes good throws to first reads, in clean pockets, but when the play breaks down, or the throw is difficult, he's barely hitting those receivers. His arm is like a post shoulder injury alex smith, minus Alex's athletic ability. I'm just not seeing the high floor everyone is talking about, when his arm is meh. I think he would make a solid backup in the NFL, but he will always have a bottom tier arm (25-32) at the next level. Solid pass for me.

But bro, he played tennis with his family while growing up, so his footwork in the pocket is elite.

But was it full-contact tennis?

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Football gods, please let it be Lance.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bison645:
I just don't see any arm talent with this guy. He makes good throws to first reads, in clean pockets, but when the play breaks down, or the throw is difficult, he's barely hitting those receivers. His arm is like a post shoulder injury alex smith, minus Alex's athletic ability. I'm just not seeing the high floor everyone is talking about, when his arm is meh. I think he would make a solid backup in the NFL, but he will always have a bottom tier arm (25-32) at the next level. Solid pass for me.

But bro, he played tennis with his family while growing up, so his footwork in the pocket is elite.

But was it full-contact tennis?

No but his vision in the pocket is also so good, that he can avoid unblocked defenders. Plus he's the smartest QB ever interviewed.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He has ZERO elite talent. None.

If it was that cut and dried the conversation wouldn't be taking place.

He's got talent, he's not some garbage QB. He will win games with Kyle similar to how Jimmy has.

his upside is not that or a top 5 QB though. There's a reason why guys with elite talent go high in just about every sport. Coaches think they can take all that upside and make a franchise high end player. Not sure why Kyle can't think he can't do that?

If the reports are true, and I still have some doubt, it's hubris. It's Kyle saying to the rest of the league, "I'm smarter. My system is better. I can win with less talented players." He may be right, but it's an awfully big gamble and if it doesn't work out, with the capital used, it will sink our franchise for a decade.

Originally posted by 4ML:


Andy Dalton is a pretty good comp for Mac Jones.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He has ZERO elite talent. None.

If it was that cut and dried the conversation wouldn't be taking place.

He's got talent, he's not some garbage QB. He will win games with Kyle similar to how Jimmy has.

his upside is not that or a top 5 QB though. There's a reason why guys with elite talent go high in just about every sport. Coaches think they can take all that upside and make a franchise high end player. Not sure why Kyle can't think he can't do that?

If the reports are true, and I still have some doubt, it's hubris. It's Kyle saying to the rest of the league, "I'm smarter. My system is better. I can win with less talented players." He may be right, but it's an awfully big gamble and if it doesn't work out, with the capital used, it will sink our franchise for a decade.

Well I think the principle would be *the sum greater than the parts?* I mean Kyle does wonders with undrafted RBs. What can he do with Mac in Kyle's system? Well we might see it soon - no guarantee he is the pick, by the way. We'll see on the 29th.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:


Andy Dalton is a pretty good comp for Mac Jones.

Get ready for Jimmy G 2.0

Jimmy Gs TO worthy play in throws over 2.5 seconds = 4.5%

Mac Jones TO worth play in throws over 2.5 seconds = 4.3%

— GameBreakers Analytics (@GBanalytics24) April 25, 2021

haha what a waste

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He has ZERO elite talent. None.

If it was that cut and dried the conversation wouldn't be taking place.

He's got talent, he's not some garbage QB. He will win games with Kyle similar to how Jimmy has.

his upside is not that or a top 5 QB though. There's a reason why guys with elite talent go high in just about every sport. Coaches think they can take all that upside and make a franchise high end player. Not sure why Kyle can't think he can't do that?

If the reports are true, and I still have some doubt, it's hubris. It's Kyle saying to the rest of the league, "I'm smarter. My system is better. I can win with less talented players." He may be right, but it's an awfully big gamble and if it doesn't work out, with the capital used, it will sink our franchise for a decade.

Well I think the principle would be *the sum greater than the parts?* I mean Kyle does wonders with undrafted RBs. What can he do with Mac in Kyle's system? Well we might see it soon - no guarantee he is the pick, by the way. We'll see on the 29th.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He has ZERO elite talent. None.

If it was that cut and dried the conversation wouldn't be taking place.

He's got talent, he's not some garbage QB. He will win games with Kyle similar to how Jimmy has.

his upside is not that or a top 5 QB though. There's a reason why guys with elite talent go high in just about every sport. Coaches think they can take all that upside and make a franchise high end player. Not sure why Kyle can't think he can't do that?

If the reports are true, and I still have some doubt, it's hubris. It's Kyle saying to the rest of the league, "I'm smarter. My system is better. I can win with less talented players." He may be right, but it's an awfully big gamble and if it doesn't work out, with the capital used, it will sink our franchise for a decade.

Well I think the principle would be *the sum greater than the parts?* I mean Kyle does wonders with undrafted RBs. What can he do with Mac in Kyle's system? Well we might see it soon - no guarantee he is the pick, by the way. We'll see on the 29th.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He has ZERO elite talent. None.

If it was that cut and dried the conversation wouldn't be taking place.

He's got talent, he's not some garbage QB. He will win games with Kyle similar to how Jimmy has.

his upside is not that or a top 5 QB though. There's a reason why guys with elite talent go high in just about every sport. Coaches think they can take all that upside and make a franchise high end player. Not sure why Kyle can't think he can't do that?

If the reports are true, and I still have some doubt, it's hubris. It's Kyle saying to the rest of the league, "I'm smarter. My system is better. I can win with less talented players." He may be right, but it's an awfully big gamble and if it doesn't work out, with the capital used, it will sink our franchise for a decade.

Well I think the principle would be *the sum greater than the parts?* I mean Kyle does wonders with undrafted RBs. What can he do with Mac in Kyle's system? Well we might see it soon - no guarantee he is the pick, by the way. We'll see on the 29th.

If the sum is greater then the parts WHY are you giving up so much for Mac? If all you want is a system guy why are you losing a TON of capital to help make the sum GREATER? It's stupid plain and simple.

is what it is get ready for McCorkle...what a joke. The NFCW is loving this. GMs and FOs are loving that Kyle isn't getting an elite talent at QB. Whatever at this point. You have about 10% of the fan base happy over this move...I'm sure it will go over great

Originally posted by 4ML:




This is probably the only good and honest content from this guy.

Originally posted by Chance:
Yeah, I'm not saying Kyle is wrong. In fact, who the hell am I to say what the winning NFL strategy should be? I like Kyle because he goes against the grain, and doing so can yield strides in innovation like what Walsh did with the WCO. But hubris can get in the way, as the sum of parts can always be diminished by the weakest link in a chain, especially if it occurs at the QB position. I say pick the guy with the highest ceiling and trust your staff to get him there.