Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Heroism:
Damn, the parallels, tho.

Go back and read some of the Daniels Jones at 6 rumors before the 2019 draft and....its interesting pic.twitter.com/5v2GRFEbML

— The Monday Morning Quarterblack (@TheMMQBL) April 25, 2021

Time is a flat circle, I swear. We just keep re-living the same life pic.twitter.com/bCx32xANYV

— The Monday Morning Quarterblack (@TheMMQBL) April 25, 2021

The similarities are eerie pic.twitter.com/DCureUS9Le

— The Monday Morning Quarterblack (@TheMMQBL) April 25, 2021

And expect the same results as "Danny Dimes"

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Welp, that's a wrap. Mac it is! lol, but in all seriousness, that was a leak. Have we had a leak? Right now, we're all worried if there was actually a leak or not. If there was an unreported leak and that's why everyone's running with Jones, then yeah.. it's him. Otherwise, I would guess Fields or Lance.

I'M STILL GOING INSANE MAN. WHO? WHO IS IT!?! I NEED ANSWERS!!! Lance - greatest upside in the class, yet the highest risk. Fields - most talented in the class, but questions about consistency working under pressure. Mac Jones - lowest risk of totally busting, highest floor, but the least physically gifted and seems to have limited upside overall.

Hmm, I don't know if I would call it a leak as much as I'd say it was a bad job of the 49ers hiding their affinity for Mac Jones.

And I still believe Shanahan talks too much ball with Chris Simms. I don't care what anyone says, that dude has been spilling the beans for years now. Anyone choosing to ignore that only has themselves to blame.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Welp, that's a wrap. Mac it is! lol, but in all seriousness, that was a leak. Have we had a leak? Right now, we're all worried if there was actually a leak or not. If there was an unreported leak and that's why everyone's running with Jones, then yeah.. it's him. Otherwise, I would guess Fields or Lance.

I'M STILL GOING INSANE MAN. WHO? WHO IS IT!?! I NEED ANSWERS!!! Lance - greatest upside in the class, yet the highest risk. Fields - most talented in the class, but questions about consistency working under pressure. Mac Jones - lowest risk of totally busting, highest floor, but the least physically gifted and seems to have limited upside overall.

Dude it's Mike shanahan. It's always been Mike. He's bros with Schefter. After Adam said he thought it was Jones everyone followed suit....also agents talk and that's how a lot of it goes. Thing is if no one was supposedly in the know outside of Kyle/Lynch and they didn't "decide" until today apparently.

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by roasthawg:
I see a lot of burrow in Jones as well. Really similar imo. I read an article last week that a lot of nfl guys are making the comparison too.

Link? I've seen the opposite of that actually.

I've heard a lot of people ask "why isn't Mac Jones getting Joe Burrrow hype despite similar stats?"

This chart comparing the stats of both on tight window throws is a massive reason why pic.twitter.com/KCdnnRY4El

— Mike Renner (@PFF_Mike) January 1, 2021

burrow got his knee blasted out in the pocket too...kyle gonna invest in the interior of the OL? Doubt it

Plus — and I want to be careful how I say this — I'm not saying that he's Joe Burrow, but I've had many high-ranking executives tell me his film, just the film, looks just like Burrow's from last year
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/146362-pelissero-jones-good-draft-49ers-keep-trey-lance/

I'd question what film they've watched. Anyone have an example of Mac making a play like the one at 1:48 in this video?

Joe Burrow - Heisman Highlights ᴴᴰ

Lol you keep questioning high ranking executives if that makes you happy. That's above my pay grade!

If they're telling me to blatantly ignore my eyes, then why should I not question that? These guys also make mistakes all of the time, so it seems odd to act like they're infallible.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bison645:
I just don't see any arm talent with this guy. He makes good throws to first reads, in clean pockets, but when the play breaks down, or the throw is difficult, he's barely hitting those receivers. His arm is like a post shoulder injury alex smith, minus Alex's athletic ability. I'm just not seeing the high floor everyone is talking about, when his arm is meh. I think he would make a solid backup in the NFL, but he will always have a bottom tier arm (25-32) at the next level. Solid pass for me.

But bro, he played tennis with his family while growing up, so his footwork in the pocket is elite.

But was it full-contact tennis?

No but his vision in the pocket is also so good, that he can avoid unblocked defenders. Plus he's the smartest QB ever interviewed.

i'm hearing his intelligence has grown leaps and bounds and he's starting to be able to see the future...Big if true.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:


Andy Dalton is a pretty good comp for Mac Jones.

Get ready for Jimmy G 2.0

Jimmy Gs TO worthy play in throws over 2.5 seconds = 4.5%

Mac Jones TO worth play in throws over 2.5 seconds = 4.3%

— GameBreakers Analytics (@GBanalytics24) April 25, 2021

haha what a waste

If the pick is Jones, will you do the board a huge favor and just leave? Maybe become a fan of the team that's run by folks that agree with your assessments of players.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Wait, you still believe a mobile QB transcends poor pass protection? You just watched a generational QB in Mahomes get reduced to a high school QB.

My stance on PP in SF is it badly needs to be improved no matter the style of QB.

You could make the case the more mobile QB causes more negative plays (INT's, fumbles, huge losses on sacks, penalties, etc.) because his instinct is to use his athletic ability to be a hero vs. just throwing it away to live another down.

I believe being able to make throws off platform and not needing a clean pocket to set your feet is important when you don't have a top OL. Especially when your a young QB in the NFL

Like Cosell said Mac simple can't do this...he will need a top end OL and if Kyle isn't gonna invest...then what? It will be no different then what we had with Jimmy. Plain and simple. Throwing it to live another down doesn't win games if you have to do it all the time because the OL isn't great.

You are aware that every single QB of all time make regular off platform throws. And you don't need to be athletic to do it. Hell, you don't even need to leave the pocket to do it.

As to PP...it needs to be improved either way as it has negative affects on both styles of QB's. That's been proven time and time again. So much so that defenses simply bring pressure differently but it still affects the QB in a negative fashion.

Now, if you're talking about off schedule plays, same concept. The 3-4 that happen every game, are run by both mobile and less athletic QB's.

Originally posted by eastie:
If the pick is Jones, will you do the board a huge favor and just leave? Maybe become a fan of the team that's run by folks that agree with your assessments of players.

This does nothing to add to the discussion.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Welp, that's a wrap. Mac it is! lol, but in all seriousness, that was a leak. Have we had a leak? Right now, we're all worried if there was actually a leak or not. If there was an unreported leak and that's why everyone's running with Jones, then yeah.. it's him. Otherwise, I would guess Fields or Lance.

I'M STILL GOING INSANE MAN. WHO? WHO IS IT!?! I NEED ANSWERS!!! Lance - greatest upside in the class, yet the highest risk. Fields - most talented in the class, but questions about consistency working under pressure. Mac Jones - lowest risk of totally busting, highest floor, but the least physically gifted and seems to have limited upside overall.

Dude it's Mike shanahan. It's always been Mike. He's bros with Schefter. After Adam said he thought it was Jones everyone followed suit....also agents talk and that's how a lot of it goes. Thing is if no one was supposedly in the know outside of Kyle/Lynch and they didn't "decide" until today apparently.

The question is, why would Mike leak something like that, knowing the gravity of the situation? I dunno. I am expecting Jones still, but will be pleasantly surprised if it's someone different.

Like we did when it was Bosa vs. Quinnen Williams, you have to take the superior talent. Fields is #1 when it comes to that.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Hmm, I don't know if I would call it a leak as much as I'd say it was a bad job of the 49ers hiding their affinity for Mac Jones.

And I still believe Shanahan talks too much ball with Chris Simms. I don't care what anyone says, that dude has been spilling the beans for years now. Anyone choosing to ignore that only has themselves to blame.

Dude it was Mike shanahan.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by jcs:

Are you lecturing me about the 49ers and history and quarterbacks? 😂 dying https://t.co/GMMJgQiT1v

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) April 25, 2021

What does this have to do with anything?

Ruthless SG sounds a lot like some of the posters in this thread....

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 4ML:


Andy Dalton is a pretty good comp for Mac Jones.

Get ready for Jimmy G 2.0

Jimmy Gs TO worthy play in throws over 2.5 seconds = 4.5%

Mac Jones TO worth play in throws over 2.5 seconds = 4.3%

— GameBreakers Analytics (@GBanalytics24) April 25, 2021

haha what a waste

If the pick is Jones, will you do the board a huge favor and just leave? Maybe become a fan of the team that's run by folks that agree with your assessments of players.

This is so out of line it's ridiculous. So the only "real fans" are those that blindly go along with what the franchise does? Sounds more like sheep.

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Lmao the fact that there is a legit petition is pretty hilarious cause people think that will make a difference.

Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by roasthawg:
Four days til Mac Jones day! I literally can't wait, hoping the whiny b***hy half of this fan base finds another team to root for. These Mac Jones haters are the reason why I've had to deal with raiders fans calling us forty whiners my whole life 🤣

Calling out fans as whiny b***hes? And saying we won't root for his team...lol grow up

Starting petitions and threatening to destroy your own property because a football team drafts a kid who's barely old enough to drink....lol grow up

Exactly lol... I started this thing thinking the pick would be Fields and hoping it would be Lance. At this point anyone but Mac will be a bit of a disappointment to me for a minute just because I don't wanna root for the same team as these cry babies. It's honestly embarrassing. I know I'm from a different generation, was raised in the 80's and we view the world very differently than the younger crowd. But posting on this board leading up to the draft has really been eye opening. People who never played a snap of college football think they're more qualified to make this pick than the guy getting paid millions a year that has literally grown up with a head coach for a father. And it's not just that they think they know better than him... They want him fired for making the pick before the guy even plays a game in some cases. Lol it's too much. Forty whiners was fighting words when I was growing up but man if it doesn't fit now I dunno what does.

All hail the perfect fan, roasthawg!

He's such a perfect fan he'd rather his team get worse just to piss of other fans.

Truly a role model for all.

"All hail the perfect fan, roasthawg!

He's such a perfect fan he'd rather his team get worse just to piss of other fans.

Truly a role model for all."

This is a really dumb comment, but then you are stuck making comments like this. I feel for you.

No I'd rather trust the guys getting paid millions to run the team who have already taken us to the sb. If whiny b***hy little fans get weeded out in the process even better as far as I'm concerned. All in on Mac

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like I said who else is there in the league? You didn't answer my question. Matt ryan? That's what you're hoping for...you didn't answer my question about PP??? You complained about it for 2 yrs...you think kyle changes his ways? I don't...Jones NEEDS to have structure. He needs to use all his mechanics and to be able to set his feet to make accurate throws and passes downfield...how in gods green earth is he gonna have that here? What he has in Bama is NOT what he's gonna have here and you KNOW this.

the league is changing. The kids that are learning to play QB ARE young athletic talents, they're learning to play the position from the head up as well...if you don't believe me go do some research on the 5 star recruits coming up. Go listen to Dilfer who runs elite 11.

My God man, just look at the playoffs this past year: Brady, Brees, Ben, Rivers.

100% agree. People dismissing Jones because magically all of a sudden all you can win with is an athletic QB LOL.

no, it is just because he sucks compared to Fields and Lance, who both have a much higher ceiling.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Lmao the fact that there is a legit petition is pretty hilarious cause people think that will make a difference.

Originally posted by 1swift:

Originally posted by roasthawg:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by roasthawg:
Four days til Mac Jones day! I literally can't wait, hoping the whiny b***hy half of this fan base finds another team to root for. These Mac Jones haters are the reason why I've had to deal with raiders fans calling us forty whiners my whole life 🤣

Calling out fans as whiny b***hes? And saying we won't root for his team...lol grow up

Starting petitions and threatening to destroy your own property because a football team drafts a kid who's barely old enough to drink....lol grow up

Exactly lol... I started this thing thinking the pick would be Fields and hoping it would be Lance. At this point anyone but Mac will be a bit of a disappointment to me for a minute just because I don't wanna root for the same team as these cry babies. It's honestly embarrassing. I know I'm from a different generation, was raised in the 80's and we view the world very differently than the younger crowd. But posting on this board leading up to the draft has really been eye opening. People who never played a snap of college football think they're more qualified to make this pick than the guy getting paid millions a year that has literally grown up with a head coach for a father. And it's not just that they think they know better than him... They want him fired for making the pick before the guy even plays a game in some cases. Lol it's too much. Forty whiners was fighting words when I was growing up but man if it doesn't fit now I dunno what does.

All hail the perfect fan, roasthawg!

He's such a perfect fan he'd rather his team get worse just to piss of other fans.

Truly a role model for all.

"All hail the perfect fan, roasthawg!

He's such a perfect fan he'd rather his team get worse just to piss of other fans.

Truly a role model for all."

This is a really dumb comment, but then you are stuck making comments like this. I feel for you.

Yes my comment is dumb, not the guy saying he wants the team to draft a player, not because he thinks he's the best prospect, but to piss off other fans. Not to mention he said he would be disappointed if the "billion dollar brain trust" decides to pick another player just because other fans won't be pissed off. Ya'll sound like the whiny b***hes to me