Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Nothing I said there is incorrect. He's simply not athletic, he will never have that part of playing QB like half the league does now. Cosell has said he simply can't make off platform throws or off script plays. He needs to have his mechanics and feet set to make the throws you want...get him off his base and on the move and we're in trouble.

he's a great processor and can throw an accurate ball...that's about it. He doesn't have a "live arm" as Cosell calls it.

if Kyle can't develop a high end talent at QB well then he's not some QB guru...even Reid knew he needed more than a good system QB.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Seems like a little bit of backtracking from the Holiday Inn Express brigade to me.

I don't even know what that means? He's not as good as the other 4 QBs. It's a MASSIVE reach. I expect whatever QB we draft will have success, some more than others.

i never once said I hate Jones or thinks he's trash. I said giving up 3 1sts for him and not taking one of the other QBs is trash.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Rathof44:
Haters or not haters, doesn't really matter, everyone has an individual take. Haters have 50% chance being right, just like the non-haters. I know the narrative: haters are not true fans. This is simply the best argument of all time and my personal fave.

He's simply not better than the other options. I don't think he's a trash QB, I do not ever see being a top 5 QB in this league...you don't give up all that for him especially when you're planning on playing Jimmy this yr.

I don't think he will fail, I think all these QB would have success in SF...just massively different degrees of success.

Agreed. Top 20 I think is reasonable (like Jimmy). But you don't give up that much for top 20.

Seems like a little bit of backtracking from the Holiday Inn Express brigade to me.

How's that? Top 20 meets your expectations of #3 overall and two lost first rounders? Awesome. Aim low.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/mac-jones

i don't think people realize actually how small Mac is compared to all the other QBs people are trying to compare him too...

There is a discrepancy in the data, your link says he ran 4.83 but Alabama says he ran 4.7
Plus 217 lbs is not small, and with a good weight training program should be able to put on 10 lbs = 227 lbs

Tom Pelissero
Numbers from Alabama QB Mac Jones' pro day submitted to the league:
Height: 6-2 5/8
Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

Originally posted by Rathof44:
How's that? Top 20 meets your expectations of #3 overall and two lost first rounders? Awesome. Aim low.

Has nothing to do with my expectations but top 20s a far cry from the narrative thats been being pushed around here for weeks.

Lol DJ thinks Jones at 9 is too high...he's barely got him as a 1st rd prospect, yet we gave up 3 1sts and fans are suppose to rally behind that?

Originally posted by DieHard49erMan:
Has anyone watched "The Brady 6" ? Saw it on NFL network and it was kind of a past showing you the future thing when they started talking about what was said about Brady before the draft. It's the same almost exactly to what everyone says about Mac Jones. Doesn't make him Brady but since it always seems to be a coin toss on who will make it or not I wonder. There is no best way to evaluate a QB but life has show me you look to the greats and look for a pattern and then try to use that to decide.
What do you guys think ? Is it a coincidence or sign they each have the same evaluations pre-draft?

Like you said Mac is not Tom, and won't be for a very long time, if ever (unless we all don't see something only Kyle sees). I go back to Nick Mullens and his noodle arm, statue athleticism, and sub par intangibles. If Kyle can develop a guy like that to beat Seadderall, imagine what Kyle can do with a guy that has first round talent. (that goes for all three QBs by the way).

I need some goddamn news.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
There is a discrepancy in the data, your link says he ran 4.83 but Alabama says he ran 4.7
Plus 217 lbs is not small, and with a good weight training program should be able to put on 10 lbs = 227 lbs

Tom Pelissero
Numbers from Alabama QB Mac Jones' pro day submitted to the league:
Height: 6-2 5/8
Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

oh weird his school said he ran faster...dude it's a pro day, every scout adds a .1-.15 to a 40 did you not say how many sub 4.4 40s we had this season?

I use mockdraftable for all combine numbers. 217lbs is not big at all. He's the same size as Jared Goff. Even Jimmy is bigger than him.

People can't comp combine 40s to pro day 40s or say well Manning ran this 40, yeah at 230lbs lol.

he's simply not athletic. He doesn't play athletic. Is what it is, no need to pretend like he is we all watch the games. Same thing with his arm talent, it's not in the same realm as the other 4...he wins in other ways

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
There is a discrepancy in the data, your link says he ran 4.83 but Alabama says he ran 4.7
Plus 217 lbs is not small, and with a good weight training program should be able to put on 10 lbs = 227 lbs

Tom Pelissero
Numbers from Alabama QB Mac Jones' pro day submitted to the league:
Height: 6-2 5/8
Weight: 217
40-yard dash: 4.72, 4.68
Vertical jump: 32 inches
Broad jump: 9 feet, 8 inches
Shuttle: 4.39
3-cone: 7.04

oh weird his school said he ran faster...dude it's a pro day, every scout adds a .1-.15 to a 40 did you not say how many sub 4.4 40s we had this season?

I use mockdraftable for all combine numbers. 217lbs is not big at all. He's the same size as Jared Goff. Even Jimmy is bigger than him.

People can't comp combine 40s to pro day 40s or say well Manning ran this 40, yeah at 230lbs lol.

he's simply not athletic. He doesn't play athletic. Is what it is, no need to pretend like he is we all watch the games. Same thing with his arm talent, it's not in the same realm as the other 4

I believe it's traditionally .05 added to a proday number.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

If the pick is indeed Jones:
1. Does this organization have leaks now?
2. Kyle is incredibly arrogant and hasn't learned a thing about QB evals + hasn't evolved at all
3. Kyle has become predictable to the rest of the league
Kyle is a smart dude, I don't think it's Jones. #49ers https://t.co/jg9HOAdcKm

— Zain N. (@zain49ers) April 26, 2021

Who's Zain N.?

Originally posted by mayo49:
I need some goddamn news.

We're drafting Mac.

And then there were 2:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?