Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think you might be dead on....plus remember the original quote? They were talking about the top 5.

Fields could be mistaken for the top 2 or at worst top 3. There is quote out there talking about the 4th or 5th guy.

And like you said, there are REAL keen to get it out there that Jimmy G is staying put for a year, sounds like they want to get out infront of the noise that they always planned to develop the player.

Damn.... fields is going to have one hell of a chip on his shoulder.

They also signed Sudfeld which is a bigger deal that is not getting talked about nearly enough. And they gave him guaranteed money. That tells me it's possible they don't even want their rookie QB to be a backup in year 1. Does that sound like Jones? A guy who is suppose to be pro-ready and will be 23 when the season begins and is going to be the 3rd string QB in year 1?

Or claiming they want to keep Jimmy G is nothing more than a smokescreen.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Guess, we'll never know.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
I think you might be dead on....plus remember the original quote? They were talking about the top 5.

Fields could be mistaken for the top 2 or at worst top 3. There is quote out there talking about the 4th or 5th guy.

And like you said, there are REAL keen to get it out there that Jimmy G is staying put for a year, sounds like they want to get out infront of the noise that they always planned to develop the player.

Damn.... fields is going to have one hell of a chip on his shoulder.

They also signed Sudfeld which is a bigger deal that is not getting talked about nearly enough. And they gave him guaranteed money. That tells me it's possible they don't even want their rookie QB to be a backup in year 1. Does that sound like Jones? A guy who is suppose to be pro-ready and will be 23 when the season begins and is going to be the 3rd string QB in year 1?

Multiple things in play. Jimmy might be moved during the draft, they've already publicly announced the price to do so a few weeks ago and it could very well happen if all the projected QB's go in the top 10 and someone like NE or NO get desperate. If Jimmy is retained and starts it doesn't change the fact that he is an injury risk so you need someone who can play right away if he goes down. They could also be keeping Sudfeld if the plan is to move Jimmy before the deadline if they can get the Rookie ready to play by then and will still need a good backup.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Guess, we'll never know.

I agree with you. Not saying Epilepsy was the reason but it certainly adds to the issues as to why not while they debate their draft board.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Probably, never know.

He's been fine up until now. And he's taken some hard hits.


After this hit he went on to have his career best with a fractured rib.

Unless you're worried he will go into epileptic seizure from pre-game strobe lights?

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Probably, never know.

He's been fine up until now. And he's taken some hard hits.


After this hit he went on to have his career best with a fractured rib.

Unless you're worried he will go into epileptic seizure from pre-game strobe lights?

Do rib shots some how cause seizures?

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Probably, never know.

He's been fine up until now. And he's taken some hard hits.


After this hit he went on to have his career best with a fractured rib.

Unless you're worried he will go into epileptic seizure from pre-game strobe lights?

Do rib shots some how cause seizures?

What would cause any issues at the next level that he hasn't dealt with so far?

the only reason I brought up a hit was because I've seen posters mention it before.

There is no universe that exists where we trade three 1st rounders for Mac Jones.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Probably, never know.

He's been fine up until now. And he's taken some hard hits.


After this hit he went on to have his career best with a fractured rib.

Unless you're worried he will go into epileptic seizure from pre-game strobe lights?

Do rib shots some how cause seizures?

What would cause any issues at the next level that he hasn't dealt with so far?

the only reason I brought up a hit was because I've seen posters mention it before.

There's only been one guy to play with epilepsy in the league, I forget his name. But, there isn't a bunch of guys playing with it.

Originally posted by Joecool:
There is no universe that exists where we trade three 1st rounders for Mac Jones.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pdizo916:

Originally posted by Heroism:
And then there were 2:

As the #49ers close in on their decision of which QB to take at No. 3, sources say they are down to two prospects — and the belief is those two are #Bama QB Mac Jones and #NDSU QB Trey Lance. Several sources say the focus does appear to have shifted to those two.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 26, 2021

What happened to Fields?

They either want to start Jones from day 1 or sit Lance for the year. They must think Fields is good enough to start from day one but not good enough to win right away.

I'm telling you - that epilepsy is going to have people questioning taking him that high.

Cmon Mayo, that isn't moving the needle either way.

Probably, never know.

He's been fine up until now. And he's taken some hard hits.


After this hit he went on to have his career best with a fractured rib.

Unless you're worried he will go into epileptic seizure from pre-game strobe lights?

Do rib shots some how cause seizures?

What would cause any issues at the next level that he hasn't dealt with so far?

the only reason I brought up a hit was because I've seen posters mention it before.

There's only been one guy to play with epilepsy in the league, I forget his name. But, there isn't a bunch of guys playing with it.

Well not everyone has it. Of course there would be a small sample size. There is only a small percentage of players hat even make it into the NFL. But, as I mentioned, is there something different in the NFL that he hasn't already dealt with up until now? I'm genuinely asking.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Joecool:
There is no universe that exists where we trade three 1st rounders for Mac Jones.

Lol Mac jones: I am inevitable

Originally posted by crusher49er:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Joecool:
There is no universe that exists where we trade three 1st rounders for Mac Jones.

Lol Mac jones: I am inevitable

And in the end, just like Thanos, he'll get beat by a guy who's more mobile.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Chance:

posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The RBs he's done wonders with almost all have some elite physical traits. I mean Mostert has been the fastest ball carrier in the league the last couple of years. Breida was right up there.

I don't know how much you can relate the two, because QB and RB are very different, but the skill position players he's gotten the most out of are almost all high-percentile athletes.

Originally posted by Chance:
Yeah, I'm not saying Kyle is wrong. In fact, who the hell am I to say what the winning NFL strategy should be? I like Kyle because he goes against the grain, and doing so can yield strides in innovation like what Walsh did with the WCO. But hubris can get in the way, as the sum of parts can always be diminished by the weakest link in a chain, especially if it occurs at the QB position. I say pick the guy with the highest ceiling and trust your staff to get him there.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
If the sum is greater then the parts WHY are you giving up so much for Mac? If all you want is a system guy why are you losing a TON of capital to help make the sum GREATER? It's stupid plain and simple.

is what it is get ready for McCorkle...what a joke. The NFCW is loving this. GMs and FOs are loving that Kyle isn't getting an elite talent at QB. Whatever at this point. You have about 10% of the fan base happy over this move...I'm sure it will go over great

Who knows what Kyles planned? But with all the Hybrid players Kyle's bringing on the team, a guy like Mac maybe can employ these hybrid players in such a way to really put defenses in a bind with his *mind* more than his athletic ability.

I agree that Mac is more limited athletically than Lance and Fields, but I also don't see what Kyle has in mind with his system and the team overall. I would say that athleticism means a lot less at the QB position than the RB or other positions. But maybe its Mac's *mind* that attracts Kyle versus his athleticism. Also I do want to point out Mac isn't a statute - I think he's a good athlete. I think he's good enough to minimize yardage loss when there is blitzes and OLine breakdowns. I think he can even escape on occasion.

But what if I told you that the QB could too be a hybrid player, displaying intelligent pocket play while also taking advantage of their elite physical traits.

Kyle has said it previously, athleticism tends to delay QB development. Example: Why stay in the pocket and suffer a 2 yard loss vs use your athleticism to gain a first down. Steve Young lost 3 conference championships- would that be different if he didn't have the athleticism and was forced to develop his pocket skills the way he did at a later time in his career? I don't know the answer to that, but I know Kyle would have better answers than I could ever come up (regarding Mac, Lance, and Trey) because he has the knowledge and background to answer that better than I could.

Did Kyle say that before or after getting his ass kicked by a plethora of underdeveloped, athletic QBs the last few years?

Kyle has Trey and Fields to choose from if he wants athleticism in his QBs. From what I've read and listened to, he's not going in that direction because of all the Mac rumors -- however all he has to do is choose either Trey or Lance and we'll all know if he's changed his philosophy on the 29th.

I can't believe 18 percent actually prefer Jones over Lance and Fields. What have you 18 percent been smoking??