Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by boomer49er:
There's no guarantee that he's better than Jimmy. In fact, it's a lot better chance that he's not.

If the 49ers draft him, that is Shanahan placing an enormous bet that he is quite a bit better. Maybe he'd be right, maybe he'd be wrong but only time would prove that out one way or the other.

You're a gifted person who can say absolutely nothing in an entire paragraph. The Yogi Berra of the webzone forums!

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You're a gifted person who can say absolutely nothing in an entire paragraph. The Yogi Berra of the webzone forums!

You just keep your distance from my TV okay buddy?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
You're a gifted person who can say absolutely nothing in an entire paragraph. The Yogi Berra of the webzone forums!

You just keep your distance from my TV okay buddy?

Hahahah. I setup my old tablet to stream the draft. Losing it would mean nothing to me!

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Hahahah. I setup my old tablet to stream the draft. Losing it would mean nothing to me!

Maybe you could go old school and just dial up Sports Phone.

Peter King's first and only mock. Surprise!

3. San Francisco 49ers (from Miami via Houston)—Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Hearing it's a two-horse race with Trey Lance. Quite a few of the experts will faint if this pick happens, and then outrage will ensue, and how-could-they-pass-on-Fields-and-Lance hot takes will flood the earth. GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan—with contracts that run through 2024 and 2025, respectively—do not care. They have not cared about public sentiment since taking these jobs, and this is their fifth draft. In their first, 2017, I was in the room as it happened, and these were the top three players on the board: 1 Myles Garrett, 2 Solomon Thomas, 3 Reuben Foster. With the third pick, they were sure to get one of those. But Foster? Really? No one had him that high. Lynch: "Had Solomon been gone, we'd have taken Foster. And been happy." My point: Shanahan and Lynch won't care what order the draftniks have the quarterbacks, or any position.

Shanahan believes Jones is the accurate coach-on-the-field type he craves. As one coach in QB-prospecting mode told me this spring: "Jones has elite NFL traits. He's a natural thrower, is technically very sound, very accurate and throws a catchable ball. His base and mechanics are excellent." He's not the athlete a Lance or Fields is, but he doesn't have feet of stone. I'll be fascinated—we all will—if Jones is the pick. And I can see it happening.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by jcs:

Why aren't more people talking about this dime 🎯 #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/PW2itTUQ4B

— Mac Hereford (@Mac_Hereford) March 31, 2021

That was more of a full body heave while Fields looks like he just tosses a dart across his chest with ease. But I admit he did get it 60 yards. Point still stands that the other two have arms that allow them to make throws that Mac cannot make, reach targets faster.

That was an off platform throw and Mac Jones has plenty arm enough to make every through required of the position and he can do it with consistent ball placement something the other two guys struggle with.

It was a practiced throw during a pro day. The tape does not show a lot of off-platform throws of good distance or velocity. There's simply circumstances in which arm strength is beneficial every game. "Whoops, don't have the velocity to get that throw to the receiver before he gets out of bounds." "Whoops, can't put my body into a throw to that wide open receiver there, therefore I'm going to check down here." I'm not saying he can't make all the throws necessary from a clean pocket, but when stuff breaks down as is common in a game, Fields and Lance retain more options at their disposal.

77% of his passes were completed last season in an all sec schedule, that doesn't just happen because of luck. Tua was a top 5 pick and the best he managed at Alabama was 70% with even more weapons.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Peter King's first and only mock. Surprise!

Football Morning In America is up! In my column:

🏈 My one + only MOCK DRAFT. I won't go 32 for 32.
🏈 QBs go 1-2-3, then 8-9
🏈 First defender goes at 10
🏈 Don't be surprised if these 2 vets are traded
🏈 Two trades go down in the early 20s
🏈 More!https://t.co/00u8cyWROy pic.twitter.com/hLZjRM1sMw

— Peter King (@peter_king) April 26, 2021

3. San Francisco 49ers (from Miami via Houston)—Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Hearing it's a two-horse race with Trey Lance. Quite a few of the experts will faint if this pick happens, and then outrage will ensue, and how-could-they-pass-on-Fields-and-Lance hot takes will flood the earth. GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan—with contracts that run through 2024 and 2025, respectively—do not care. They have not cared about public sentiment since taking these jobs, and this is their fifth draft. In their first, 2017, I was in the room as it happened, and these were the top three players on the board: 1 Myles Garrett, 2 Solomon Thomas, 3 Reuben Foster. With the third pick, they were sure to get one of those. But Foster? Really? No one had him that high. Lynch: "Had Solomon been gone, we'd have taken Foster. And been happy." My point: Shanahan and Lynch won't care what order the draftniks have the quarterbacks, or any position.

Shanahan believes Jones is the accurate coach-on-the-field type he craves. As one coach in QB-prospecting mode told me this spring: "Jones has elite NFL traits. He's a natural thrower, is technically very sound, very accurate and throws a catchable ball. His base and mechanics are excellent." He's not the athlete a Lance or Fields is, but he doesn't have feet of stone. I'll be fascinated—we all will—if Jones is the pick. And I can see it happening.

Peter King...

What if Kyle drafts Jones and they keep Jimmy and Jimmy plays like he did in 2017 before the injury? The fanbase will question why dump Jimmy for Mac Jones when there is nothing Jones can do that Jimmy can't. They are the same QB, Just one is cheaper. This is why you can't keep Jimmy if you draft Jones. It will be a disaster.

Jimmy I'm not sure could do this....

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What if Kyle drafts Jones and they keep Jimmy and Jimmy plays like he did in 2017 before the injury? The fanbase will question why dump Jimmy for Mac Jones when there is nothing Jones can do that Jimmy can't. They are the same QB, Just one is cheaper. This is why you can't keep Jimmy if you draft Jones. It will be a disaster.

Then the 49ers will likely win the NFCW, and Mac Jones will slowly become an afterthought for the 2021 season.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Peter King's first and only mock. Surprise!

Football Morning In America is up! In my column:

🏈 My one + only MOCK DRAFT. I won't go 32 for 32.
🏈 QBs go 1-2-3, then 8-9
🏈 First defender goes at 10
🏈 Don't be surprised if these 2 vets are traded
🏈 Two trades go down in the early 20s
🏈 More!https://t.co/00u8cyWROy pic.twitter.com/hLZjRM1sMw

— Peter King (@peter_king) April 26, 2021

3. San Francisco 49ers (from Miami via Houston)—Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Hearing it's a two-horse race with Trey Lance. Quite a few of the experts will faint if this pick happens, and then outrage will ensue, and how-could-they-pass-on-Fields-and-Lance hot takes will flood the earth. GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan—with contracts that run through 2024 and 2025, respectively—do not care. They have not cared about public sentiment since taking these jobs, and this is their fifth draft. In their first, 2017, I was in the room as it happened, and these were the top three players on the board: 1 Myles Garrett, 2 Solomon Thomas, 3 Reuben Foster. With the third pick, they were sure to get one of those. But Foster? Really? No one had him that high. Lynch: "Had Solomon been gone, we'd have taken Foster. And been happy." My point: Shanahan and Lynch won't care what order the draftniks have the quarterbacks, or any position.

Shanahan believes Jones is the accurate coach-on-the-field type he craves. As one coach in QB-prospecting mode told me this spring: "Jones has elite NFL traits. He's a natural thrower, is technically very sound, very accurate and throws a catchable ball. His base and mechanics are excellent." He's not the athlete a Lance or Fields is, but he doesn't have feet of stone. I'll be fascinated—we all will—if Jones is the pick. And I can see it happening.

Peter King...

The funny part is his 2017 draft reference and forgets to add in the massive dose of humble pie Reuben and now Thomas served them in retrospect. They aren't nearly as dense. That taught them a lot about their valuations.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Peter King's first and only mock. Surprise!

Football Morning In America is up! In my column:

🏈 My one + only MOCK DRAFT. I won't go 32 for 32.
🏈 QBs go 1-2-3, then 8-9
🏈 First defender goes at 10
🏈 Don't be surprised if these 2 vets are traded
🏈 Two trades go down in the early 20s
🏈 More!https://t.co/00u8cyWROy pic.twitter.com/hLZjRM1sMw

— Peter King (@peter_king) April 26, 2021

3. San Francisco 49ers (from Miami via Houston)—Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Hearing it's a two-horse race with Trey Lance. Quite a few of the experts will faint if this pick happens, and then outrage will ensue, and how-could-they-pass-on-Fields-and-Lance hot takes will flood the earth. GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan—with contracts that run through 2024 and 2025, respectively—do not care. They have not cared about public sentiment since taking these jobs, and this is their fifth draft. In their first, 2017, I was in the room as it happened, and these were the top three players on the board: 1 Myles Garrett, 2 Solomon Thomas, 3 Reuben Foster. With the third pick, they were sure to get one of those. But Foster? Really? No one had him that high. Lynch: "Had Solomon been gone, we'd have taken Foster. And been happy." My point: Shanahan and Lynch won't care what order the draftniks have the quarterbacks, or any position.

Shanahan believes Jones is the accurate coach-on-the-field type he craves. As one coach in QB-prospecting mode told me this spring: "Jones has elite NFL traits. He's a natural thrower, is technically very sound, very accurate and throws a catchable ball. His base and mechanics are excellent." He's not the athlete a Lance or Fields is, but he doesn't have feet of stone. I'll be fascinated—we all will—if Jones is the pick. And I can see it happening.

More like a one horse race. Kyle is not waiting 2-3 years on Lance to develop.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What if Kyle drafts Jones and they keep Jimmy and Jimmy plays like he did in 2017 before the injury? The fanbase will question why dump Jimmy for Mac Jones when there is nothing Jones can do that Jimmy can't. They are the same QB, Just one is cheaper. This is why you can't keep Jimmy if you draft Jones. It will be a disaster.

Then the 49ers will likely win the NFCW, and Mac Jones will slowly become an afterthought for the 2021 season.

Mac Jones will be on a rookie contract. If Jimmy has his best season ever next year, the Niners have a good problem, and he's still under contract for two years. They could ride out his contract, they could even franchise him a third year, or they could trade him for good value. All the while, Mac Jones won't be costing much and will be acclimating to the NFL game. I think it would be ideal if Jimmy took this as motivation and reverted to form. Some of Joe Montana's best play came after Walsh put a burr under his saddle by trading for Young.

Originally posted by jcs:

Jimmy I'm not sure could do this....

Throw it out of bounds? LOL

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Peter King's first and only mock. Surprise!

Football Morning In America is up! In my column:

🏈 My one + only MOCK DRAFT. I won't go 32 for 32.
🏈 QBs go 1-2-3, then 8-9
🏈 First defender goes at 10
🏈 Don't be surprised if these 2 vets are traded
🏈 Two trades go down in the early 20s
🏈 More!https://t.co/00u8cyWROy pic.twitter.com/hLZjRM1sMw

— Peter King (@peter_king) April 26, 2021

3. San Francisco 49ers (from Miami via Houston)—Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Hearing it's a two-horse race with Trey Lance. Quite a few of the experts will faint if this pick happens, and then outrage will ensue, and how-could-they-pass-on-Fields-and-Lance hot takes will flood the earth. GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan—with contracts that run through 2024 and 2025, respectively—do not care. They have not cared about public sentiment since taking these jobs, and this is their fifth draft. In their first, 2017, I was in the room as it happened, and these were the top three players on the board: 1 Myles Garrett, 2 Solomon Thomas, 3 Reuben Foster. With the third pick, they were sure to get one of those. But Foster? Really? No one had him that high. Lynch: "Had Solomon been gone, we'd have taken Foster. And been happy." My point: Shanahan and Lynch won't care what order the draftniks have the quarterbacks, or any position.

Shanahan believes Jones is the accurate coach-on-the-field type he craves. As one coach in QB-prospecting mode told me this spring: "Jones has elite NFL traits. He's a natural thrower, is technically very sound, very accurate and throws a catchable ball. His base and mechanics are excellent." He's not the athlete a Lance or Fields is, but he doesn't have feet of stone. I'll be fascinated—we all will—if Jones is the pick. And I can see it happening.

More like a one horse race. Kyle is not waiting 2-3 years on Lance to develop.

It shouldn't take him that long - his reputation is that he's a quick study. One year learning Shanahan's playbook should be enough.