Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

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Originally posted by Heroism:
Peter King's first and only mock. Surprise!

Football Morning In America is up! In my column:

🏈 My one + only MOCK DRAFT. I won't go 32 for 32.
🏈 QBs go 1-2-3, then 8-9
🏈 First defender goes at 10
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3. San Francisco 49ers (from Miami via Houston)—Mac Jones, QB, Alabama

Hearing it's a two-horse race with Trey Lance. Quite a few of the experts will faint if this pick happens, and then outrage will ensue, and how-could-they-pass-on-Fields-and-Lance hot takes will flood the earth. GM John Lynch and coach Kyle Shanahan—with contracts that run through 2024 and 2025, respectively—do not care. They have not cared about public sentiment since taking these jobs, and this is their fifth draft. In their first, 2017, I was in the room as it happened, and these were the top three players on the board: 1 Myles Garrett, 2 Solomon Thomas, 3 Reuben Foster. With the third pick, they were sure to get one of those. But Foster? Really? No one had him that high. Lynch: "Had Solomon been gone, we'd have taken Foster. And been happy." My point: Shanahan and Lynch won't care what order the draftniks have the quarterbacks, or any position.

Shanahan believes Jones is the accurate coach-on-the-field type he craves. As one coach in QB-prospecting mode told me this spring: "Jones has elite NFL traits. He's a natural thrower, is technically very sound, very accurate and throws a catchable ball. His base and mechanics are excellent." He's not the athlete a Lance or Fields is, but he doesn't have feet of stone. I'll be fascinated—we all will—if Jones is the pick. And I can see it happening.

And there it is, the kiss of death

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What if Kyle drafts Jones and they keep Jimmy and Jimmy plays like he did in 2017 before the injury? The fanbase will question why dump Jimmy for Mac Jones when there is nothing Jones can do that Jimmy can't. They are the same QB, Just one is cheaper. This is why you can't keep Jimmy if you draft Jones. It will be a disaster.

Then the 49ers will likely win the NFCW, and Mac Jones will slowly become an afterthought for the 2021 season.

Mac Jones will be on a rookie contract. If Jimmy has his best season ever next year, the Niners have a good problem, and he's still under contract for two years. They could ride out his contract, they could even franchise him a third year, or they could trade him for good value. All the while, Mac Jones won't be costing much and will be acclimating to the NFL game. I think it would be ideal if Jimmy took this as motivation and reverted to form. Some of Joe Montana's best play came after Walsh put a burr under his saddle by trading for Young.

There is no way that will happen.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by jcs:

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That was more of a full body heave while Fields looks like he just tosses a dart across his chest with ease. But I admit he did get it 60 yards. Point still stands that the other two have arms that allow them to make throws that Mac cannot make, reach targets faster.

Yes, whoever has the strongest arm technically can make throws someone with a weaker arm cannot. But How many throws that Fields or Lance could make that Mac couldn't, will come up in a game or season. I would say not many.

Mac is Consistently accurate on short, medium, and long passes. Both inside and outside the numbers. Against pressure and with a clean pocket.

I would also argue Mac can currently make throws someone like Lance in particular currently cannot make. Because he has the ability to throw with touch and anticipation. Not to mention the fact that Lance has no consistency with his accuracy whatsoever.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Then the 49ers will likely win the NFCW, and Mac Jones will slowly become an afterthought for the 2021 season.

But what do you do for the 2022 season? How do you explain to the fanbase that you are moving on from Jimmy to go with a QB who is identical? Atleast with Lance or Fields they are a different breed of QB than Jimmy with a much higher ceiling. They can say Jimmy is good but Lance or Fields adds a different problem for defenses and could be elite. Drafting Jones is stupid but drafting Jones and keeping Jimmy is even more stupid. Not to mention you could trade Jimmy and add to the roster with an extra draft pick and more cap space. Keeping Jimmy only makes sense if you draft Fields or Lance.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What if Kyle drafts Jones and they keep Jimmy and Jimmy plays like he did in 2017 before the injury? The fanbase will question why dump Jimmy for Mac Jones when there is nothing Jones can do that Jimmy can't. They are the same QB, Just one is cheaper. This is why you can't keep Jimmy if you draft Jones. It will be a disaster.

Then the 49ers will likely win the NFCW, and Mac Jones will slowly become an afterthought for the 2021 season.

Mac Jones will be on a rookie contract. If Jimmy has his best season ever next year, the Niners have a good problem, and he's still under contract for two years. They could ride out his contract, they could even franchise him a third year, or they could trade him for good value. All the while, Mac Jones won't be costing much and will be acclimating to the NFL game. I think it would be ideal if Jimmy took this as motivation and reverted to form. Some of Joe Montana's best play came after Walsh put a burr under his saddle by trading for Young.

There is no way that will happen.

How is that not possible? They already said they want Jimmy to play this year. If Jimmy plays to the best of his ability he is capable of leading the team to the Super Bowl again, maybe even winning it. If he pulled that off they would be under no pressure to dump him prematurely before his contract expires, and then it would be decision time and they'd probably either go with Jones or move him. It's unlikely, but Jimmy is certainly capable of getting hot and having a hell of a year or two. That would be awkward, but a great problem.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by boomer49er:
There's no guarantee that he's better than Jimmy. In fact, it's a lot better chance that he's not.

If the 49ers draft him, that is Shanahan placing an enormous bet that he is quite a bit better. Maybe he'd be right, maybe he'd be wrong but only time would prove that out one way or the other.

Yeah, but betting big and betting smart aren't the same thing.

For what they gave up and the other options they have available....they best be sure that Mac Jones is the best pocket passer not just in this draft but in the past 10 years.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Yes, whoever has the strongest arm technically can make throws someone with a weaker arm cannot. But How many throws that Fields or Lance could make that Mac couldn't, will come up in a game or season. I would say not many.

Mac is Consistently accurate on short, medium, and long passes. Both inside and outside the numbers. Against pressure and with a clean pocket.

I would also argue Mac can currently make throws someone like Lance in particular currently cannot make. Because he has the ability to throw with touch and anticipation. Not to mention the fact that Lance has no consistency with his accuracy whatsoever.

You are drafting your franchise QB for the next decade, Not just the next 2 years. Who's to say that Fields or Lance won't improve on accuracy? With their gifted talent and athletic abilities I would bet there is a pretty good chance they will improve on that. But the things Jones lacks he really can't improve on. He is not going to get a stronger arm than he has now, He is not going to all of a sudden become more mobile.

I wonder if he'll have the audacity to ask Garoppolo for #10?

Originally posted by BSofSF:
I wonder if he'll have the audacity to ask Garoppolo for #10?

Lol, Jimmy will tell him to eat s**t(assuming he's still around).

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
What if Kyle drafts Jones and they keep Jimmy and Jimmy plays like he did in 2017 before the injury? The fanbase will question why dump Jimmy for Mac Jones when there is nothing Jones can do that Jimmy can't. They are the same QB, Just one is cheaper. This is why you can't keep Jimmy if you draft Jones. It will be a disaster.

Then the 49ers will likely win the NFCW, and Mac Jones will slowly become an afterthought for the 2021 season.

Mac Jones will be on a rookie contract. If Jimmy has his best season ever next year, the Niners have a good problem, and he's still under contract for two years. They could ride out his contract, they could even franchise him a third year, or they could trade him for good value. All the while, Mac Jones won't be costing much and will be acclimating to the NFL game. I think it would be ideal if Jimmy took this as motivation and reverted to form. Some of Joe Montana's best play came after Walsh put a burr under his saddle by trading for Young.

There is no way that will happen.

How is that not possible? They already said they want Jimmy to play this year. If Jimmy plays to the best of his ability he is capable of leading the team to the Super Bowl again, maybe even winning it. If he pulled that off they would be under no pressure to dump him prematurely before his contract expires, and then it would be decision time and they'd probably either go with Jones or move him. It's unlikely, but Jimmy is certainly capable of getting hot and having a hell of a year or two. That would be awkward, but a great problem.

Because they would have to explain why their QB who was worth 3 first round picks isn't able to beat out the guy that they drafted him to replace. The only thing you could do is trade one of them.

You either trade Jimmy and hope that Mac is better, or else you're getting fired. Or, try to trade Jones. Problem with that is that you probably aren't getting back what you gave up for him because most teams don't think Jones is worth that kind of pick in the first place. So you give up 3 firsts for him and you get back one...that gets the GM fired too.

Just imagine is Jimmy is on fire this season. He has a career year and we even win a SB. Then, they trade him and start Mac Jones....but Jones isn't able to replicate what Jimmy did and they miss the playoffs.....uh oh.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

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— Odracir909 (@Ricardo90910) April 26, 2021

Lol

If Jones is the pick I truly believe Jimmy will be traded on draft day.

Originally posted by boomer49er:
Because they would have to explain why their QB who was worth 3 first round picks isn't able to beat out the guy that they drafted him to replace. The only thing you could do is trade one of them.

You either trade Jimmy and hope that Mac is better, or else you're getting fired. Or, try to trade Jones. Problem with that is that you probably aren't getting back what you gave up for him because most teams don't think Jones is worth that kind of pick in the first place. So you give up 3 firsts for him and you get back one...that gets the GM fired too.

Just imagine is Jimmy is on fire this season. He has a career year and we even win a SB. Then, they trade him and start Mac Jones....but Jones isn't able to replicate what Jimmy did and they miss the playoffs.....uh oh.

No, because if Jimmy wins a Super Bowl nobody is getting fired. Mac Jones will be the pick that lit the fire under Jimmy's ass. Lynch already said they want more viable options at that position. But I take them at face value when they say they are fine keeping Jimmy and starting him this year while a rookie learns the offense and gets acclimated. Now, if Jimmy takes his opportunity all the way to the house, you think people are still going to bitterly complain about the lost draft capital? Probably not. And then they are poised to move Jimmy for maximum value, or could let it ride another year and just let Jones percolate like the Packers did with Favre and Rogers.