Mac Jones-QB-Jaguars

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by fan49:
I'm sorry did you just say Mac Jones and throws a great beat ball? It's not what is pro day showed LOL. Out of the top five quarterback she has the worst deep ball. I would project him here as Shawn hill

Yes, The fact that he has the best passer rating throwing deep out of anyone in college football kind of backs that up. He was consistently accurate on the deep ball in college. Maybe you should actually watch some game tape.

Not really when you consider he was throwing to guys running wide open down the field.

You shouldn't use college stats to bask up anything about transition to the NFL. It doesn't translate like that. If it did then scouting would be done in Excel.

Exactly. This guy says "watch the tape" but ignores the fact that Mccorkle's WR's all have 3-4 yards of separation on almost every play.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
Yes, The fact that he has the best passer rating throwing deep out of anyone in college football kind of backs that up. He was consistently accurate on the deep ball in college. Maybe you should actually watch some game tape.

It helps that his receivers are open by 5 feet on every play and that his Oline gives him all the time in the world.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by fan49:
I'm sorry did you just say Mac Jones and throws a great beat ball? It's not what is pro day showed LOL. Out of the top five quarterback she has the worst deep ball. I would project him here as Shawn hill

Yes, The fact that he has the best passer rating throwing deep out of anyone in college football kind of backs that up. He was consistently accurate on the deep ball in college. Maybe you should actually watch some game tape.

Not really when you consider he was throwing to guys running wide open down the field.

You shouldn't use college stats to bask up anything about transition to the NFL. It doesn't translate like that. If it did then scouting would be done in Excel.

Exactly. This guy says "watch the tape" but ignores the fact that Mccorkle's WR's all have 3-4 yards of separation on almost every play.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Yeah Shaun Hill wasn't making throws like this:

Why aren't more people talking about this dime 🎯 #NFLDraft pic.twitter.com/PW2itTUQ4B

— Mac Hereford (@Mac_Hereford) March 31, 2021

Hello, Mac Jones. Hello, John Metchie. Hello, end zone. pic.twitter.com/RN1aVjYHXY

— CBS Sports (@CBSSports) October 3, 2020

Waddle separation is different. Short strider. Gets in and out of his breaks so easily.

Mac Jones has a beautiful moon ball (Russell Wilson-like) <— his deep passes, not a player comp pic.twitter.com/UmJeD5S27h

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) March 2, 2021

Is there anything more beautiful than a deep ball from Mac Jones? Alabama leads 7-0!pic.twitter.com/oSEUzUc242

— Alabama Crimson Tide | BamaInsider.com (@bamainsider) October 18, 2020

Last Mac Jones play for the night, another 45-yard+ throw on the money off of play-action.

Jones reading the deep safety (1) and as soon as he commits to covering Smith, Jones targets Metchie and drops in a dime.

As @eric_crocker loves to say, Jones airs that hoe out routinely. pic.twitter.com/zhaBeVITMx

— Akash Anavarathan (@akashanav) March 5, 2021

Originally posted by Furlow:
60% of his passes were at or behind the LOS.

At least when Mac threw past the LOS he was accurate. Trey Lance ranks dead last in accuracy rate on passes that go beyond the line of scrimmage (44%) among all quarterbacks drafted in the first round since 2017.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by fan49:
I'm sorry did you just say Mac Jones and throws a great beat ball? It's not what is pro day showed LOL. Out of the top five quarterback she has the worst deep ball. I would project him here as Shawn hill

Yes, The fact that he has the best passer rating throwing deep out of anyone in college football kind of backs that up. He was consistently accurate on the deep ball in college. Maybe you should actually watch some game tape.

Not really when you consider he was throwing to guys running wide open down the field.

You shouldn't use college stats to bask up anything about transition to the NFL. It doesn't translate like that. If it did then scouting would be done in Excel.

Exactly. This guy says "watch the tape" but ignores the fact that Mccorkle's WR's all have 3-4 yards of separation on almost every play.

This is such a tired exaggeration and it needs to be called out. Let's not act like Justin Fields didn't have a ton of talent he was throwing to at Ohio St.

Originally posted by Furlow:
You guys love McCorkle. We get it. Didn't have to trade up to #3 for him. Waste of draft capital.

True

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Furlow:
60% of his passes were at or behind the LOS.

At least when Mac threw past the LOS he was accurate. Trey Lance ranks dead last in accuracy rate on passes that go beyond the line of scrimmage (44%) among all quarterbacks drafted in the first round since 2017.

That's not good. Starting to lean toward the safer pick and taking Mac.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
It helps that his receivers are open by 5 feet on every play and that his Oline gives him all the time in the world.

The idea that Mac had so much better offensive line is just not true.

Justin Fields: Pressures=84 Time to pressure = 2.6 Seconds Time to throw= 4.1 seconds Sack rate= 25%
Trevor Lawrence: Pressures=90 Time to pressure = 2.4 Seconds Time to throw= 3.2 seconds Sack rate=15%
Zach Wilson: Pressures=80 Time to pressure = 2.6 Seconds Time to throw= 3.7 seconds Sack rate= 13%
Mac Jones: Pressures=82 Time to pressure = 2.6 Seconds Time to throw= 3.2 Sack Rate= 12%

He had comparable numbers in terms of the number of times he was pressured. Pretty much the exact same on how fast on average the pressure came. But he took the lowest total % of sacks when pressured. So this idea that Mac had This offensive line that was so much better than the other prospects is not true. The stats don't back that up. Also based on the numbers Mac being the least-mobile player was the best at not taking sacks.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by fan49:
I'm sorry did you just say Mac Jones and throws a great beat ball? It's not what is pro day showed LOL. Out of the top five quarterback she has the worst deep ball. I would project him here as Shawn hill

Yes, The fact that he has the best passer rating throwing deep out of anyone in college football kind of backs that up. He was consistently accurate on the deep ball in college. Maybe you should actually watch some game tape.

Not really when you consider he was throwing to guys running wide open down the field.

You shouldn't use college stats to bask up anything about transition to the NFL. It doesn't translate like that. If it did then scouting would be done in Excel.

Exactly. This guy says "watch the tape" but ignores the fact that Mccorkle's WR's all have 3-4 yards of separation on almost every play.

Was this to prove my point? There was 3 yards of separation on that play. Easy to "anticipate" your WR running past the DB when every one of your WR's is faster than every DB on the other team.

Originally posted by mayo49:
That's not good. Starting to lean toward the safer pick and taking Mac.

You said Lance and you're sticking with him mayo. Either that or you're name's getting changed to Ambivalent49. Pretty sure we made that deal.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:
You guys love McCorkle. We get it. Didn't have to trade up to #3 for him. Waste of draft capital.

True

If he's your guy - can't sit at #12 and hope he falls. Is #3 high? Yes, but you made the move for him so got to take him.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:
That's not good. Starting to lean toward the safer pick and taking Mac.

You said Lance and you're sticking with him mayo. Either that or you're name's getting changed to Ambivalent49. Pretty sure we made that deal.

I'd be happy with either one. I can't make up my mind - it sucks.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by boomer49er:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by fan49:
I'm sorry did you just say Mac Jones and throws a great beat ball? It's not what is pro day showed LOL. Out of the top five quarterback she has the worst deep ball. I would project him here as Shawn hill

Yes, The fact that he has the best passer rating throwing deep out of anyone in college football kind of backs that up. He was consistently accurate on the deep ball in college. Maybe you should actually watch some game tape.

Not really when you consider he was throwing to guys running wide open down the field.

You shouldn't use college stats to bask up anything about transition to the NFL. It doesn't translate like that. If it did then scouting would be done in Excel.

Exactly. This guy says "watch the tape" but ignores the fact that Mccorkle's WR's all have 3-4 yards of separation on almost every play.

Was this to prove my point? There was 3 yards of separation on that play. Easy to "anticipate" your WR running past the DB when every one of your WR's is faster than every DB on the other team.

You ever heard of the term passing someone open with anticipation?

Drew Brees had a hofer career doing this with avg arm velocity.

On the other side one of Fields biggest issues according to scouts is his lack of anticipation throws that lead to sacks because he tends to wait to see his recievers get open before he guns it.

Mechie and the dB in that clip were stride for stride when that ball gets released.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by Furlow:
60% of his passes were at or behind the LOS.

At least when Mac threw past the LOS he was accurate. Trey Lance ranks dead last in accuracy rate on passes that go beyond the line of scrimmage (44%) among all quarterbacks drafted in the first round since 2017.

That's not good. Starting to lean toward the safer pick and taking Mac.

Welcome back Mayo!!