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  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

39 picks and 20 fumbles in 3 seasons has nothing to do with anybody but Darnold.
Originally posted by jcs:
You think that's bad Wentz has 50 Picks and 58 fumbles in 5 seasons and people here think he's an upgrade.

Carson Wentz, career interception %= 2.0, 0.22 fumbles per touch

Jimmy Garoppolo, career interception %= 2.7, 0.17 fumbles per touch

Sam Darnold, career interception %= 3.7, 0.17 fumbles per touch
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

He had Gore and Le'Veon Bell.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by cjsmoove:
Question....is Darnold even a upgrade? Doesn't he have a weaker arm then Jimmy?

No, he's got a pretty good arm.

Darnold has 39 picks and 20 fumbles in 3 seasons.....

You think that's bad Wentz has 50 Picks and 58 fumbles in 5 seasons and people here think he's an upgrade.

Brett Favre had 77 interceptions and 52 fumbles through his first 5 years as a starter.

Not saying Wentz (or Darnold) is Favre, but you have to watch the all of his tape when considering these stats to understand the why aspect and to begin to understand if these issues can be fixed.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

He had Gore and Le'Veon Bell.

Your run game is only as good as your oline
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jcs:
You think that's bad Wentz has 50 Picks and 58 fumbles in 5 seasons and people here think he's an upgrade.

Carson Wentz, career interception %= 2.0 0.22 fumbles per touch

Jimmy Garoppolo, career interception %= 2.7 0.17 fumbles per touch

Sam Darnold, career interception %= 3.7 0.17 fumbles per touch

You know what's crazy....Wentz has more career fumbles than Jameis Winston.
Originally posted by evil:
Brett Favre had 77 interceptions and 52 fumbles through his first 5 years as a starter.

Not saying Wentz (or Darnold) is Favre, but you have to watch the all of his tape when considering these stats to understand the why aspect and to begin to understand if these issues can be fixed.

Different era. In today's game you CANNOT turn the ball over.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

He had Gore and Le'Veon Bell.

Gore averaged 3.5 ypc and had under 700 yards.

Bell averaged 3.2 ypc and had just over 700 yards.

There was no run game in NY.
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Originally posted by Fresno49er:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

He had Gore and Le'Veon Bell.

Your run game is only as good as your oline

Can say the same thing about the pass game and it's effect opening up the run.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

39 picks and 20 fumbles in 3 seasons has nothing to do with anybody but Darnold.

Yup. I just want what those people are smoking
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Fresno49er:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

He had Gore and Le'Veon Bell.

Your run game is only as good as your oline

Can say the same thing about the pass game and it's effect opening up the run.

Cant have a pass game without a good oline either
I'd rather keep Jimmy.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

39 picks and 20 fumbles in 3 seasons has nothing to do with anybody but Darnold.

Yup. I just want what those people are smoking

So does Jimmy's 26 INTs and 10 fumbles with 250 less passing attempts have nothing to do with anybody but him? That's right around 33 INTs with the same amount of passing attempts as Sam...and that's in SF not on the worst team in football.

I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. FWIW I don't think Sam is some stud either.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Are there actually people who want Darnold on the Niners? Hes had injury issues and turns the ball over too much. How on earth is that an upgrade to Jimmy? Makes no sense.

I'm gonna say what comes next is......

Look who his head coach was.

Look at what he had on offense.

He wasn't the reason they had a losing record.

He had no run game.

He didn't have any receivers.

He had the worst defense in the NFL.

What am I missing here?? If they can get Darnold for a 4th round pick, sure no problem.

39 picks and 20 fumbles in 3 seasons has nothing to do with anybody but Darnold.

Yup. I just want what those people are smoking

So does Jimmy's 26 INTs and 10 fumbles with 250 less passing attempts have nothing to do with anybody but him? That's right around 33 INTs with the same amount of passing attempts as Sam...and that's in SF not on the worst team in football.

I just want to make sure we're all on the same page. FWIW I don't think Sam is some stud either.

If you're going to add 250 magic 8 ball attempts to your made up 33 int's then I say he throws 50 more TD's over that stretch with my magic 8 ball.
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