Randy Moss apparently still smoking a lot of weed

He got the rings and then some. What say you Randy?

Randy is using the word "impact" to try and hide the fact that he had very forgettable years in Oakland in the middle of his career, and did not have near the longevity of Rice. He's also ignoring the fact that he played his entire career after the 1993-94 rule change on defensive holding and pass interference, which benefitted the passing game tremendously. Versus Rice who was 32 years old by the time that happened.

Here's a good read on the impact of those rules changes:

https://slate.com/culture/2014/09/1994-nfl-rules-how-a-series-of-pass-friendly-changes-saved-a-moribund-league-and-created-the-modern-nfl.html#:~:text=The%20changes%20they%20pushed%20through,scrimmage%3B%20adding%20two%20point%20conversions%3B

And let's take a look at Jerry's numbers in the three seasons after the 1994 change:

1994 (age 32): 112 catches, 1499 yards,13 TD's
1995 (age 33): 122 catches, 1848 yards, 15 TD's
1996 (age 34): 108 catches, 1254 yards, 8 TD's

He was hurt the next season and obviously was never the same, but those totals are all the same or better than the early part of his career, during a time when most players aren't producing as much. So imagine what Rice's numbers would have looked like had he played his entire career after 1994, as Moss did? Rice had 22 TD's in 12 GAMES in 1987 (strike shortened), and Moss wants to talk about "impact?"

Anyway, for comparison, let's look at Moss's stats at those same ages:

2009 (age 32): 83 catches, 1264 yards, 13 TD's
2010 (age 33): 28 catches, 393 yards, 5 TD's
2011 (age 34): sitting on his couch

Let's also take the best season for each receiving stat for each and compare it to one another:

Receptions: Rice 122 (1995), Moss 111 (2003)
Receiving yards: Rice 1,848 (1995), Moss 1,632 (2003)
Touchdowns: Rice 22 (1987, 12 games due to strike), Moss 23 (2007)
Yards per catch: Rice 20.4 (1988), Moss 19.0 (1998)

Here's one more interesting note. Randy Moss was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2018 at age 40, well deserved! When Jerry Rice was 40 he was still playing, and had 92 catches, 1,211 yards, and 7 TD's. He also played in his 4th Super Bowl, leading the Raiders with 5 catches for 77 yards and a TD, albeit in a losing effort.

Not only is Jerry Rice far and away the greatest wide receiver to ever play, you can easily make an argument (and one that I believe) that he's the greatest football player to ever play the game of football.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Randy is using the word "impact" to try and hide the fact that he had very forgettable years in Oakland in the middle of his career, and did not have near the longevity of Rice. He's also ignoring the fact that he played his entire career after the 1993-94 rule change on defensive holding and pass interference, which benefitted the passing game tremendously. Versus Rice who was 32 years old by the time that happened.

Here's a good read on the impact of those rules changes:

https://slate.com/culture/2014/09/1994-nfl-rules-how-a-series-of-pass-friendly-changes-saved-a-moribund-league-and-created-the-modern-nfl.html#:~:text=The%20changes%20they%20pushed%20through,scrimmage%3B%20adding%20two%20point%20conversions%3B

And let's take a look at Jerry's numbers in the three seasons after the 1994 change:

1994 (age 32): 112 catches, 1499 yards,13 TD's
1995 (age 33): 122 catches, 1848 yards, 15 TD's
1996 (age 34): 108 catches, 1254 yards, 8 TD's

He was hurt the next season and obviously was never the same, but those totals are all the same or better than the early part of his career, during a time when most players aren't producing as much. So imagine what Rice's numbers would have looked like had he played his entire career after 1994, as Moss did? Rice had 22 TD's in 12 GAMES in 1987 (strike shortened), and Moss wants to talk about "impact?"

Anyway, for comparison, let's look at Moss's stats at those same ages:

2009 (age 32): 83 catches, 1264 yards, 13 TD's
2010 (age 33): 28 catches, 393 yards, 5 TD's
2011 (age 34): sitting on his couch

Let's also take the best season for each receiving stat for each and compare it to one another:

Receptions: Rice 122 (1995), Moss 111 (2003)
Receiving yards: Rice 1,848 (1995), Moss 1,632 (2003)
Touchdowns: Rice 22 (1987, 12 games due to strike), Moss 23 (2007)
Yards per catch: Rice 20.4 (1988), Moss 19.0 (1998)

Here's one more interesting note. Randy Moss was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2018 at age 40, well deserved! When Jerry Rice was 40 he was still playing, and had 92 catches, 1,211 yards, and 7 TD's. He also played in his 4th Super Bowl, leading the Raiders with 5 catches for 77 yards and a TD, albeit in a losing effort.

Not only is Jerry Rice far and away the greatest wide receiver to ever play, you can easily make an argument (and one that I believe) that he's the greatest football player to ever play the game of football.

It really is an absolute laughable comparison.

The real sad thing is far too many young fans 35 and under, actually BELIEVE it!....lol,smh

Originally posted by Furlow:
Randy is using the word "impact" to try and hide the fact that he had very forgettable years in Oakland in the middle of his career, and did not have near the longevity of Rice. He's also ignoring the fact that he played his entire career after the 1993-94 rule change on defensive holding and pass interference, which benefitted the passing game tremendously. Versus Rice who was 32 years old by the time that happened.

Here's a good read on the impact of those rules changes:

https://slate.com/culture/2014/09/1994-nfl-rules-how-a-series-of-pass-friendly-changes-saved-a-moribund-league-and-created-the-modern-nfl.html#:~:text=The%20changes%20they%20pushed%20through,scrimmage%3B%20adding%20two%20point%20conversions%3B

And let's take a look at Jerry's numbers in the three seasons after the 1994 change:

1994 (age 32): 112 catches, 1499 yards,13 TD's
1995 (age 33): 122 catches, 1848 yards, 15 TD's
1996 (age 34): 108 catches, 1254 yards, 8 TD's

He was hurt the next season and obviously was never the same, but those totals are all the same or better than the early part of his career, during a time when most players aren't producing as much. So imagine what Rice's numbers would have looked like had he played his entire career after 1994, as Moss did? Rice had 22 TD's in 12 GAMES in 1987 (strike shortened), and Moss wants to talk about "impact?"

Anyway, for comparison, let's look at Moss's stats at those same ages:

2009 (age 32): 83 catches, 1264 yards, 13 TD's
2010 (age 33): 28 catches, 393 yards, 5 TD's
2011 (age 34): sitting on his couch

Let's also take the best season for each receiving stat for each and compare it to one another:

Receptions: Rice 122 (1995), Moss 111 (2003)
Receiving yards: Rice 1,848 (1995), Moss 1,632 (2003)
Touchdowns: Rice 22 (1987, 12 games due to strike), Moss 23 (2007)
Yards per catch: Rice 20.4 (1988), Moss 19.0 (1998)

Here's one more interesting note. Randy Moss was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 2018 at age 40, well deserved! When Jerry Rice was 40 he was still playing, and had 92 catches, 1,211 yards, and 7 TD's. He also played in his 4th Super Bowl, leading the Raiders with 5 catches for 77 yards and a TD, albeit in a losing effort.

Not only is Jerry Rice far and away the greatest wide receiver to ever play, you can easily make an argument (and one that I believe) that he's the greatest football player to ever play the game of football.

Those rule changes/enforcments were the beginning of the end for the NFL for myself. I think they had the right blend of offense and defense from 1978-1993, but the NFL wanted more offense for various reasons. Today's game is a farce in comparison IMO.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Those rule changes/enforcments were the beginning of the end for the NFL for myself. I think they had the right blend of offense and defense from 1978-1993, but the NFL wanted more offense for various reasons. Today's game is a farce in comparison IMO.

Yes it's a different game, growing up many of us enjoyed defense more than offense. You can't touch a receiver 5 yards past the line of scrimmage. The most ridiculous call is when there is a good hit and it becomes a penalty, As far as quarterbacks are concerned, forget about it.

Jerry Rice was also pretty prolific in the playoffs. Won a Super Bowl MVP and, as of 2017, is the only WR with multiple 3 TD games. He's clutch. Not so sure of Moss' playoff performances, but I do always remember Marvin Harrison didn't fare as well in the playoffs for the Colts.

Millennials lol
It's best just to keep your mouth shut unless you seen Jerry play.

I rank tyreke hill #1 at child abuse

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
He got the rings and then some. What say you Randy?

"If Randy wants to be No. 1 that's fine ... My main thing is that it was all about the rings."

Jerry Rice had the perfect response on @957thegame to Randy Moss' absurd GOAT claimhttps://t.co/i0lM6ysVM7 pic.twitter.com/MBMzndVfex

— 49ers on NBCS (@NBCS49ers) December 21, 2020

When Moss called the Rings and Stats political that's when you knew he doesn't have a leg to stand on with this discussion.

Originally posted by Hopper:

When Moss called the Rings and Stats political that's when you knew he doesn't have a leg to stand on with this discussion.

Lol that's what really got me. How are stats political? You think you'd have better stats if you got better press? I get that stats don't tell the whole story but to say they're political?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I rank tyreke hill #1 at child abuse

And #1 s**t for brains.

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I rank tyreke hill #1 at child abuse

And #1 s**t for brains.

He going to go full Antonio Brown in a few years

The level of disrespect, I don't think I ever remember a HOF player proclaiming to be the best at there position over someone else?

Originally posted by jimrat:

The level of disrespect, I don't think I ever remember a HOF player proclaiming to be the best at there position over someone else?