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Originally posted by Hopper:
My rebuttal would be why is he chasing these hoodrats.

Fair question...he likes to pay for anonymous sex. Not the first rich person to pay for hookers. I wouldn't be going about it this way, but it's his money.
Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
Originally posted by Janitor:
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If i told you that one of the accusers had Crip set tattoos and had a long association with the Crips while also having violent assaults on her criminal record would it maybe give you pause when contemplating how traumatized she was at the sight of an erection during a massage?

how do you know she wasnt a victim of sexual abuse sometime in her life? you seem to think someone who has had gang relations in the past is ok to sexually abuse. that's a really dangerous hill to argue from. you should probably chill out and let the whole thing play out before you assume things you have no idea about.
Originally posted by boast:
how do you know she wasnt a victim of sexual abuse sometime in her life? you seem to think someone who has had gang relations in the past is ok to sexually abuse. that's a really dangerous hill to argue from. you should probably chill out and let the whole thing play out before you assume things you have no idea about.

Don't be simple minded man. Nobody is suggesting that it's ok to abuse anyone.

What I'm suggesting is that your credibility takes a monster hit when I know you've spent much of your life gangbanging with violent criminals but act like you're traumatized because someone tried to coerce you into a hand job at a massage. Much less when you tried to shake Watson down for $100k on the front end before going public. Come on, now.

Anyway, I'll check out for now. No use speculating either way until more facts come out. We've really only heard from the ambulance chaser's dog and pony show tactics so far. Best believe Hardin hasn't been sitting back doing nothing behind the scenes.
Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
Originally posted by boast:
how do you know she wasnt a victim of sexual abuse sometime in her life? you seem to think someone who has had gang relations in the past is ok to sexually abuse. that's a really dangerous hill to argue from. you should probably chill out and let the whole thing play out before you assume things you have no idea about.

Don't be simple minded man. Nobody is suggesting that it's ok to abuse anyone.

What I'm suggesting is that your credibility takes a monster hit when I know you've spent much of your life gangbanging with violent criminals but act like you're traumatized because someone tried to coerce you into a hand job at a massage. Much less when you tried to shake Watson down for $100k on the front end before going public. Come on, now.

Anyway, I'll check out for now. No use speculating either way until more facts come out. We've really only heard from the ambulance chaser's dog and pony show tactics so far. Best believe Hardin hasn't been sitting back doing nothing behind the scenes.

right there... you doubled down. no. even if she had a life of "gang banging" someone could still suffer from sexual abuse trauma and get triggered by a dude whipping out his erection.

calling me "simple minded" when you are the one making these assumptions is absolutely ridiculous. keep your stupid name calling to yourself.
Originally posted by boast:
right there... you doubled down. no. even if she had a life of "gang banging" someone could still suffer from sexual abuse trauma and get triggered by a dude whipping out his erection.

calling me "simple minded" when you are the one making these assumptions is absolutely ridiculous. keep your stupid name calling to yourself.

i don't think you understand the concept of credibility.

and why would this person demand $100k privately first and then decided to file a case "to protect women" again? nothing fishy about that to you either, i'm guessing.
Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
Originally posted by boast:
how do you know she wasnt a victim of sexual abuse sometime in her life? you seem to think someone who has had gang relations in the past is ok to sexually abuse. that's a really dangerous hill to argue from. you should probably chill out and let the whole thing play out before you assume things you have no idea about.

Don't be simple minded man. Nobody is suggesting that it's ok to abuse anyone.

What I'm suggesting is that your credibility takes a monster hit when I know you've spent much of your life gangbanging with violent criminals but act like you're traumatized because someone tried to coerce you into a hand job at a massage. Much less when you tried to shake Watson down for $100k on the front end before going public. Come on, now.

Anyway, I'll check out for now. No use speculating either way until more facts come out. We've really only heard from the ambulance chaser's dog and pony show tactics so far. Best believe Hardin hasn't been sitting back doing nothing behind the scenes.

You are right but all it takes is 1 victim to have a "clean" record for Watson to be found guilty.
Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
Originally posted by boast:
right there... you doubled down. no. even if she had a life of "gang banging" someone could still suffer from sexual abuse trauma and get triggered by a dude whipping out his erection.

calling me "simple minded" when you are the one making these assumptions is absolutely ridiculous. keep your stupid name calling to yourself.

i don't think you understand the concept of credibility.

and why would this person demand $100k privately first and then decided to file a case "to protect women" again? nothing fishy about that to you either, i'm guessing.

no im actually doing the smart thing and letting it play out. im not trying to assassinate either side's character from behind a keyboard because im biased fan of a player.
  • Hopper
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Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
Originally posted by Hopper:
My rebuttal would be why is he chasing these hoodrats.

Fair question...he likes to pay for anonymous sex. Not the first rich person to pay for hookers. I wouldn't be going about it this way, but it's his money.

He's not but the smart ones find a discreet way to do it. Nothing Deshaun did here was smart.
  • jcs
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Originally posted by TheBlueHell:

And now the "he said"...instead of settling this he's going all in and this might take a while to resolve...maybe years.
Originally posted by Hopper:
He's not but the smart ones find a discreet way to do it. Nothing Deshaun did here was smart.

Don't disagree with you here.
  • jcs
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/04/19/report-at-least-two-of-the-women-suing-deshaun-watson-have-agreed-to-meet-with-the-nfl/

"On the same day that Watson's lawyer, Rusty Hardin, took an ultra-aggressive position in officially responding to the 22 lawsuits and in making a public statement confirming that, yes, Watson and Harding believe all of the accusers are lying, Buzbee or someone connected to him leaked to Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston that at least two of the plaintiffs have agreed to meet with the NFL regarding the allegations.

Per Berman, the meetings will happen via Zoom video conference. The NFL's top investigator in matters of this nature, Lisa Friel, has made clear her desire to speak to all accusers. The NFL has no ability to force cooperate by non-NFL employees, which continues to be one of the primary flaws of the NFL's in-house justice system.

With cooperation from the alleged victims, Friel and the league can fully and completely investigate the situation, potentially issuing discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy. Without cooperation from the alleged victims, it becomes much more difficult to prove potential violations of the policy."

Watson is going to end up on the commissioners exempt list if this continues.
[ Edited by jcs on Apr 20, 2021 at 10:32 AM ]
Not a single surprise here :

Via John McClain of the Houston Chronicle, eight teams had shown interest in a trade for Watson. They were the Jets, Dolphins, Panthers, Broncos, 49ers, Patriots, Bears, and Washington
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