New Miami Dolphins HC Mike McDaniel

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

I agree.

Mike Holmgren was just a college QB coach when Walsh picked him up from BYU. I'm pretty sure Kyle knows a bunch of young talented up and coming coaches from the various clinic's he does or has done over the years. Specially with his dad at that QB Academy (or something like that). Kyle will find somebody to man the coaching and front office trenches.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

Leftwich? The OC of the Bucs is going to take a demotion from calling the offense in Tampa to come work for Shanahan who runs a vastly different offense than the system he's been working in for years?

If McDaniel leaves, he'll be replaced by a junior assistant, someone young and impressionable enough to learn the offense from the ground up. Maybe they'll work out, maybe they'll won't but for general intents and purposes, McDaniel sticking around is by far the best possible outcome.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Someone make up some bad stuff about him so nobody wants him.

He's Woody Allen's long lost son

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

I agree.

Mike Holmgren was just a college QB coach when Walsh picked him up from BYU. I'm pretty sure Kyle knows a bunch of young talented up and coming coaches from the various clinic's he does or has done over the years. Specially with his dad at that QB Academy (or something like that). Kyle will find somebody to man the coaching and front office trenches.

All Shanny has to do is let someone drink his bath water to instantly benefit his powers, even someone such as a 9moon (cloud 9) can benefit

For a team with only two winning seasons, everyone seems to want to poach our staff.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
For a team with only two winning seasons, everyone seems to want to poach our staff.

Hard to have winning seasons when you've been the most injured team

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

huh? why would Leftwhich leave TB as the OC to get less opportunity to call plays in SF? Pederson isn't taking a OC gig at this point either.

McD isn't gonna be a HC this yr or probably for a while IMO. The Phins are gonna interview half a dozen guys and McD is probably the least qualified to be a HC of the bunch...if anything he would leave to be a the OC somewhere else not the HC.

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
All Shanny has to do is let someone drink his bath water to instantly benefit his powers, even someone such as a 9moon (cloud 9) can benefit

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
So many ppl wanted Kyle fired during the season, but every offseason it seems lots of teams always trying to pluck his apprentices away lol

That's why I don't listen to these click bait wannabe journalists and melodramatic fans, Kyle is very well thought of around the league if we were stupid enough to fire him he'd have a new job before the day was out. Vikings fans were openly hoping we'd fire him so they could get him and I don't doubt some of the hit pieces earlier in the season about Kyle weren't released to try and create that very scenario (I'm looking at you Mike Florio).

Originally posted by NYniner85:
McD isn't gonna be a HC this yr or probably for a while IMO. The Phins are gonna interview half a dozen guys and McD is probably the least qualified to be a HC of the bunch...if anything he would leave to be a the OC somewhere else not the HC.

I agree with this. Until he starts calling plays there will still be a lot of skepticism with a lot of teams. If Demeco gets a HC job I could see kyle allowing him to go with him to get an opportunity to call plays. They are good friends so I would imagine Kyle wanting him to get more experience and moving up the ranks in the nfl

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

I agree.

Mike Holmgren was just a college QB coach when Walsh picked him up from BYU. I'm pretty sure Kyle knows a bunch of young talented up and coming coaches from the various clinic's he does or has done over the years. Specially with his dad at that QB Academy (or something like that). Kyle will find somebody to man the coaching and front office trenches.

All Shanny has to do is let someone drink his bath water to instantly benefit his powers, even someone such as a 9moon (cloud 9) can benefit

He's learned from the best. The Shannahans don't let lazy ever get into the coaching staff's credo, for sure. They can tell who can grind and who can't. Just like if you are a 49er fan, you can just *tell* who really is and who really isn't.

Originally posted by Giedi:

He's learned from the best. The Shannahans don't let lazy ever get into the coaching staff's credo, for sure. They can tell who can grind and who can't. Just like if you are a 49er fan, you can just *tell* who really is and who really isn't.

Meh. Bill Walsh called Marc Trestman his best pupil. We saw how that worked out.

If you get top notch coaching talent, you do everything possible to hold on to it, there's never any guarantee that the next guy on deck will do half as good a job.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Giedi:

He's learned from the best. The Shannahans don't let lazy ever get into the coaching staff's credo, for sure. They can tell who can grind and who can't. Just like if you are a 49er fan, you can just *tell* who really is and who really isn't.

Meh. Bill Walsh called Marc Trestman his best pupil. We saw how that worked out.

If you get top notch coaching talent, you do everything possible to hold on to it, there's never any guarantee that the next guy on deck will do half as good a job.

Losing McDaniel is going to hurt, for sure. Need to keep him and Demeco for as long as possible.

However, like McKittrick, you can lose Coaching talent in a variety of ways. You have to keep scouting for good talent. But yeah, you do the best to try to keep good coaching talent. That goes without saying.

I think one of the best ways to get to know up and coming talent is their college win/loss record, and whether they go to coaching clinics and other methods of show casing their knowledge, like YouTube videos, online literature, etc... Vrable and Demeco were former NFL players, and same with Rathman, Rhodes, and Dungee. Thats another avenue to get good talent. Staley would be (I think) a great OLine coach, but he's chosen (for now) to go in another direction.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

I agree.

Mike Holmgren was just a college QB coach when Walsh picked him up from BYU. I'm pretty sure Kyle knows a bunch of young talented up and coming coaches from the various clinic's he does or has done over the years. Specially with his dad at that QB Academy (or something like that). Kyle will find somebody to man the coaching and front office trenches.

All Shanny has to do is let someone drink his bath water to instantly benefit his powers, even someone such as a 9moon (cloud 9) can benefit

He's learned from the best. The Shannahans don't let lazy ever get into the coaching staff's credo, for sure. They can tell who can grind and who can't. Just like if you are a 49er fan, you can just *tell* who really is and who really isn't.

If McD is that smart , he'll stick around a few more yrs, to learn more from JL and kyle, in such things as drafting, talent evaluation, re-signing, FAing, trading, Defense, STs, and a whole lot more in OCing. Saleh had the opportunity, but was really short when it came to all the above , save DCing , but even there, he still wasn't really proficient in blitzes, D schemes, and O which he knew precious little of.

As for team building ( ie how does one build a team from the ground up). McD is in pretty much the same situation, and taking that first job can be a trap, where the new guy goes into a Jets situation, or Jags, and can be sunk because of lack of total knowledge re: the "ALL" of football. Taking on a Jags/Jets garbage pile just makes it all that much harder where the HC HAS to know all things having to do with HCing, or it will be a short tenure.

McD ain't there yet…and like Saleh, will have a long row to hoe. If he's smart, he'll stay on with kyle to learn the maximum amount he can.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
So many names...leftwhich. Pederson. Well find someone.

I agree.

Mike Holmgren was just a college QB coach when Walsh picked him up from BYU. I'm pretty sure Kyle knows a bunch of young talented up and coming coaches from the various clinic's he does or has done over the years. Specially with his dad at that QB Academy (or something like that). Kyle will find somebody to man the coaching and front office trenches.

All Shanny has to do is let someone drink his bath water to instantly benefit his powers, even someone such as a 9moon (cloud 9) can benefit

He's learned from the best. The Shannahans don't let lazy ever get into the coaching staff's credo, for sure. They can tell who can grind and who can't. Just like if you are a 49er fan, you can just *tell* who really is and who really isn't.

If McD is that smart , he'll stick around a few more yrs, to learn more from JL and kyle, in such things as drafting, talent evaluation, re-signing, FAing, trading, Defense, STs, and a whole lot more in OCing. Saleh had the opportunity, but was really short when it came to all the above , save DCing , but even there, he still wasn't really proficient in blitzes, D schemes, and O which he knew precious little of.

As for team building ( ie how does one build a team from the ground up). McD is in pretty much the same situation, and taking that first job can be a trap, where the new guy goes into a Jets situation, or Jags, and can be sunk because of lack of total knowledge re: the "ALL" of football. Taking on a Jags/Jets garbage pile just makes it all that much harder where the HC HAS to know all things having to do with HCing, or it will be a short tenure.

McD ain't there yet…and like Saleh, will have a long row to hoe. If he's smart, he'll stay on with kyle to learn the maximum amount he can.

There is smart and there is prudent.

Smart is staying with Kyle, prudent is *show me the money*

On average, an NFL offensive coordinator will be in the $1 million range in terms of his salary. The first coordinator to break the million-dollar barrier for an annual salary was then-Redskins coordinator Marvin Lewis in 2002.
https://www.sportscasting.com/how-much-do-nfl-offensive-coordinators-get-paid/