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Feb 4, 2022 at 12:01 AM

GorefullBore
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Hey Phoenix, so if I'm reading this situation right would our three thirds next year jump to four should DeMeco get hired in next years coaching cycle? I know that's way down the road and I would hate to lose DeMeco, but four third rounders sounds enticing as well. We could conceivably get four contributors there, which would come in really handy as Deebo, Nick, and Trey should he pan out would all eventually need to get paid.

Technically, unless there's some cap that I haven't seen listed anywhere.

They received three 3rd round picks for Saleh+Mayhew. One in 2021, 2022 and 2023. If McDaniels leaves they get thirds in 2022 and 2023 and if Ryans were to leave next year they'd get thirds in 2023 and 2024.

Okay, thanks bud, that would be a lot of cheap talent to restock as the cap room gets more narrow over the years.

[ Edited by GorefullBore on Feb 4, 2022 at 12:14 AM ]

Feb 4, 2022 at 12:02 AM

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DRCHOWDER
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Mcdaniel going to Miami to trade us those picks back then quit and come back

Feb 4, 2022 at 4:43 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Technically, unless there's some cap that I haven't seen listed anywhere.

They received three 3rd round picks for Saleh+Mayhew. One in 2021, 2022 and 2023. If McDaniels leaves they get thirds in 2022 and 2023 and if Ryans were to leave next year they'd get thirds in 2023 and 2024.

Are you positive we'd get compensated for McDaniel leaving? Honest question

Feb 4, 2022 at 5:24 AM

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Originally posted by illinois9er:
Are you positive we'd get compensated for McDaniel leaving? Honest question

I don't see why they wouldn't. If having a black father and white mother was enough for Obama to be considered the the first Black president, it'd be weird for the NFL to categorize McDaniel differently, especially if he himself claims minority status.

Feb 4, 2022 at 5:29 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by illinois9er:
Are you positive we'd get compensated for McDaniel leaving? Honest question

I don't see why they wouldn't. If having a black father and white mother was enough for Obama to be considered the the first Black president, it'd be weird for the NFL to categorize McDaniel differently, especially if he himself claims minority status.

This is true

Feb 4, 2022 at 5:31 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They get a comp pick, correct?

I have no idea how the NFL would handle it but considering he's bi-racial, he should qualify as a minority hire for the purposes of compensation so the 49ers would be receiving two 3rd round comp picks, one this year and one next year.

So they'd have two 3rds this year and three next year.

According to the resolution, a team is eligible to receive draft pick compensation if the candidate in question has been "employed by the employer-club for a minimum of two years." There can be no break in employment between teams.

I mean this all makes sense...

Feb 4, 2022 at 5:31 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Hey Phoenix, so if I'm reading this situation right would our three thirds next year jump to four should DeMeco get hired in next years coaching cycle? I know that's way down the road and I would hate to lose DeMeco, but four third rounders sounds enticing as well. We could conceivably get four contributors there, which would come in really handy as Deebo, Nick, and Trey should he pan out would all eventually need to get paid.

Technically, unless there's some cap that I haven't seen listed anywhere.

They received three 3rd round picks for Saleh+Mayhew. One in 2021, 2022 and 2023. If McDaniels leaves they get thirds in 2022 and 2023 and if Ryans were to leave next year they'd get thirds in 2023 and 2024.

Oh. Can't we have 5th rounders instead? If we ask nicely.

Feb 4, 2022 at 5:34 AM

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NYniner85
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They get a comp pick, correct?

I have no idea how the NFL would handle it but considering he's bi-racial, he should qualify as a minority hire for the purposes of compensation so the 49ers would be receiving two 3rd round comp picks, one this year and one next year.

So they'd have two 3rds this year and three next year.

According to the resolution, a team is eligible to receive draft pick compensation if the candidate in question has been "employed by the employer-club for a minimum of two years." There can be no break in employment between teams.

Hey Phoenix, so if I'm reading this situation right would our three thirds next year jump to four should DeMeco get hired in next years coaching cycle? I know that's way down the road and I would hate to lose DeMeco, but four third rounders sounds enticing as well. We could conceivably get four contributors there, which would come in really handy as Deebo, Nick, and Trey should he pan out would all eventually need to get paid.

Yes you are correct 4 3rd rd picks and we'd have 2 in the following yr (our own and Ryans comp)...as lame as the whole "incentives" thing is you could look at SF and see why it was put in place.

Teams putting minorities in a position to get a chance to get those GM/HC gigs...SF is doing just that (and just hiring promoting the best guys for the job regardless of race).

Feb 4, 2022 at 5:35 AM

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Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Hey Phoenix, so if I'm reading this situation right would our three thirds next year jump to four should DeMeco get hired in next years coaching cycle? I know that's way down the road and I would hate to lose DeMeco, but four third rounders sounds enticing as well. We could conceivably get four contributors there, which would come in really handy as Deebo, Nick, and Trey should he pan out would all eventually need to get paid.

Technically, unless there's some cap that I haven't seen listed anywhere.

They received three 3rd round picks for Saleh+Mayhew. One in 2021, 2022 and 2023. If McDaniels leaves they get thirds in 2022 and 2023 and if Ryans were to leave next year they'd get thirds in 2023 and 2024.

Oh. Can't we have 5th rounders instead? If we ask nicely.

I mean trade down and you can have 10 5th rd picks lol.

Feb 4, 2022 at 8:45 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by illinois9er:
Are you positive we'd get compensated for McDaniel leaving? Honest question

I don't see why they wouldn't. If having a black father and white mother was enough for Obama to be considered the the first Black president, it'd be weird for the NFL to categorize McDaniel differently, especially if he himself claims minority status.

If he's half minority then maybe it's only a 6th round comp pick instead of a 3rd.

Feb 4, 2022 at 8:53 AM

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Originally posted by thl408:
If he's half minority then maybe it's only a 6th round comp pick instead of a 3rd.

Lol...the Dolphins interview will probably kick off with McDaniel: So, you've probably read the recent news accusing our organization of racism and discrimination. We can assure you we have implemented training measures to combat this issue. We noticed on your resume that you identify as a minority, but you look pretty white to us. Are you only black from the waist down, or what?

Feb 4, 2022 at 9:09 AM

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Maybe they'll test his blackness.

Feb 4, 2022 at 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Technically, unless there's some cap that I haven't seen listed anywhere.

They received three 3rd round picks for Saleh+Mayhew. One in 2021, 2022 and 2023. If McDaniels leaves they get thirds in 2022 and 2023 and if Ryans were to leave next year they'd get thirds in 2023 and 2024.

Yup and with regard to this, it benefits us in not losing both the same year like Saleh and Mayhew. It's an additional 3rd round pick

Feb 4, 2022 at 10:12 AM

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Probably gone

[ Edited by lamontb on Feb 4, 2022 at 10:13 AM ]

Feb 4, 2022 at 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Technically, unless there's some cap that I haven't seen listed anywhere.

They received three 3rd round picks for Saleh+Mayhew. One in 2021, 2022 and 2023. If McDaniels leaves they get thirds in 2022 and 2023 and if Ryans were to leave next year they'd get thirds in 2023 and 2024.

Yup and with regard to this, it benefits us in not losing both the same year like Saleh and Mayhew. It's an additional 3rd round pick

I think you only get 2 picks once (Saleh) and they don't stack on same years (why we got only one comp pick for Mayhew and its in 2023 not this year). So if both Ryans and McDaniels get promotions I think that adds thirds ins 2024 and 2025, one pick for each guy.

[ Edited by walker807 on Feb 4, 2022 at 10:25 AM ]