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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Wilson's strength and the reason he beat the Niners so often was his ability to extend plays and find an open receiver downfield. He doesn't move as well as he used to and his arm may not be quite as strong but this is about money and Wilson not fitting what Payton wants. If he's on the roster in April he gets a guaranteed $30 mil. They don't want to take a chance on him getting injured in the final 2 games and then not being able to be released because of it.

Wilson's other strength was a defense that played like the Ravens did the other night.

Every single f**king time we played Wilson, their defense always showed up.

How is it possible that Nick Mullens beat Wilson as many times as Garoppolo? It's because the Niners defense showed up on that rainy day in Santa Clara more than any other outing versus Wilson.

So in close games, yes, Wilson is dangerous. It only takes one THROW or sometimes TWO to win a game in those circumstances.....that last 11-10 game we lost to Denver, Wilson made one throw on one drive that won the damn game.

Was the worst game of the season for him, but hey, Wilson BEAT THE 49ers........

Man, nobody can see the big picture. Wilson's most valuable asset against SF was somehow channeling that defense to play to meteoric levels, something Geno or Lock could not do....

And maybe, just maybe.....some of that has to do with never having played against Brock Purdy.
[ Edited by JTsBiggestFan on Dec 28, 2023 at 2:47 PM ]
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Wilson's other strength was a defense that played like the Ravens did the other night.

Every single f**king time we played Wilson, their defense always showed up.

How is it possible that Nick Mullens beat Wilson as many times as Garoppolo? It's because the Niners defense showed up on that rainy day in Santa Clara more than any other outing versus Wilson.

So in close games, yes, Wilson is dangerous. It only takes one THROW or sometimes TWO to win a game in those circumstances.....that last 11-10 game we lost to Denver, Wilson made one throw on one drive that won the damn game.

Was the worst game of the season for him, but hey, Wilson BEAT THE 49ers........

Man, nobody can see the big picture. Wilson's most valuable asset against SF was somehow channeling that defense to play to meteoric levels, something Geno or Lock could not do....

And maybe, just maybe.....some of that has to do with never having played against Brock Purdy.

Exactly right. Same guy he'd always been just doesn't have the support he did from the D or Marshawn. Payton wants a guy like Brock to run his offense.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Dec 28, 2023 at 3:16 PM ]
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by evil:
Where does he end up if they move on ?

Pats?
LV?
NYG?
WFT?
Bears?
Vikings?
Atlanta?

Atlanta as a bridge QB. They have a really good run game and a few receivers that like to get downfield, certainly a far better option than Ridder.

The Falcons, much like most of the other teams on that list, passed on Lamar Jackson last offseason. I cant imagine any of them would rather have Russell Wilson than Lamar.

Lamar would have cost several first round picks IIRC in addition to the big salary. Wilson will be a FA and considerably cheaper.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Russ is the same guy he always was he just can't run around and pull things out his ass. There is no "washed". Same guy. Now the flaws stand out more because the system isn't designed around his backyard football.

No, he isn't. I recall years ago the 49er defence running all over ....it was like trying to catch a chipmunk. But that last year in Seattle, our defence was more able to catch him and he was taking way more hits by defences in general. He had gained some weight and was a bit slower.....it showed. He was a really good scrambling QB....but he has slowed down just enough that he is not quite the same.
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by evil:
Where does he end up if they move on ?

Pats?
LV?
NYG?
WFT?
Bears?
Vikings?
Atlanta?

Atlanta as a bridge QB. They have a really good run game and a few receivers that like to get downfield, certainly a far better option than Ridder.

The Falcons, much like most of the other teams on that list, passed on Lamar Jackson last offseason. I cant imagine any of them would rather have Russell Wilson than Lamar.

Lamar would have cost several first round picks IIRC in addition to the big salary. Wilson will be a FA and considerably cheaper.

Multiple first round picks and a big salary for a top tier QB or a considerably cheaper contract and no picks for an average 36 year old QB?

Gee, tough call.
overrated trash his entire career. Ppl value the regular season way too much on these forums as does the media. He's too f**king stupid to run Payton's system (call him an a*****e all you want but he won a SB with one of the best offenses).

Midget is nothing more than a dumb scrambling QB that was nothing more than a below average game manager in the one SB he won. f**king Nick Foles and Joe Flacco are better QBs and actually have SB MVPs. Not too mention hes an absolute POS teammate as documented by every single of his teammates in Seattle. Hell his own team called him NOT BLACK ENOUGH which if he see how he acts is 100% true.

Should be in the XFL if he's lucky next year. There is 0% chance any team that actually starts him next year will win the SB.
Originally posted by jimmy3233:
overrated trash his entire career. Ppl value the regular season way too much on these forums as does the media. He's too f**king stupid to run Payton's system (call him an a*****e all you want but he won a SB with one of the best offenses).

Midget is nothing more than a dumb scrambling QB that was nothing more than a below average game manager in the one SB he won. f**king Nick Foles and Joe Flacco are better QBs and actually have SB MVPs. Not too mention hes an absolute POS teammate as documented by every single of his teammates in Seattle. Hell his own team called him NOT BLACK ENOUGH which if he see how he acts is 100% true.

Should be in the XFL if he's lucky next year. There is 0% chance any team that actually starts him next year will win the SB.

Great post jimmy!!!!!

The funny part of all of this is that Wilson tried to get the Seattle ownership to fire Pete a couple years back and suggested Payton as his replacement.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2023/02/russell-wilson-wanted-pete-carroll-fired-seahawks-gm-sean-payton
We gonna sign him or not?
went from dangerous to delirious

"For me, it's about winning -- over the next two years, I want to win two [Super Bowls], I want to feel the chill of that trophy again," Wilson said

maybe he's gonna move in on being Mahomes backup?
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on Feb 26, 2024 at 4:34 PM ]
So where does he go? Options are pretty much this:

Steelers
Patriots
Raiders
Giants
Commanders
Originally posted by Patton:
We gonna sign him or not?

Not.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So where does he go? Options are pretty much this:

Steelers
Patriots
Raiders
Giants
Commanders

Steelers make a ton of sense, IMO.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So where does he go? Options are pretty much this:

Steelers
Patriots
Raiders
Giants
Commanders

Steelers make a ton of sense, IMO.

Does it? Maybe from a need standpoint, but definitely not culture. I wouldn't doubt it out but it would be surprising.

I would add ATL to that list if the Bears decide not to trade Fields.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
So where does he go? Options are pretty much this:

Steelers
Patriots
Raiders
Giants
Commanders

Senior center retirement home, let's ride
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