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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by All22:
Hyder is also strictly a DE/DT whereas Ebukam is an OLB/DE. 275lbs vs 245lbs. The extra athleticism on the edge has been very noticeable this year.

He was invisible at the start of the season but has started to make a few plays

I think moving Armstead inside has had a huge effect on the defense. We're now more stout inside and more athletic outside. Remember, even the Lions we're ripping off huge runs up the middle. Now that we've shut that down our edges are starting to feast (Bosa had 3 sacks last game).

Not to mention, we aren't running single high press man on 3rd downs anymore. QB's were just throwing it up against the single coverage and either coming down with it or getting PI... all before the rush even had a chance.

I think this shows that DeMeco is making adjustments & they're working. The defense has been much better since the Rams game, hoping Nick can get 6 sacks in the last 4 games to break the single season record for the 49ers.

Agree. It would be so cool for Bosa to get 6 sacks (in the next game )
Ebukam is a young guy, only 26 years old, and I'm hoping he continues to improve his game as the season wears on. If he does, he'll be able to free up Bosa for some more additional sacks. Omenihu's another guy that is trending up. He had two tackles recently and his snap counts are trending up also. Key's snap counts have dropped (when compared to the Raiders snap counts) but every sack from here on in, is breaking his all time career records.

Key snaps are down b/c they figured out he's not great rushing from the outside but does a lot better against guards on the interior. So he can only see the field on obvious passing downs b/c of that. Omenihu has been getting his snaps on the outside
Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree. It would be so cool for Bosa to get 6 sacks (in the next game )
Ebukam is a young guy, only 26 years old, and I'm hoping he continues to improve his game as the season wears on. If he does, he'll be able to free up Bosa for some more additional sacks. Omenihu's another guy that is trending up. He had two tackles recently and his snap counts are trending up also. Key's snap counts have dropped (when compared to the Raiders snap counts) but every sack from here on in, is breaking his all time career records.

I agree with this. I understand that people want a real stud on the end opposite Bosa but there aren't that many in the NFL. Certainly not available without giving up a lot. Let's see if these guys can improve a little more and start getting more pressure. They don't need to get sacks. Just force the QB into Bosa.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by All22:
Hyder is also strictly a DE/DT whereas Ebukam is an OLB/DE. 275lbs vs 245lbs. The extra athleticism on the edge has been very noticeable this year.

He was invisible at the start of the season but has started to make a few plays

After the signing, Ebukam was pretty open about not really having any pass rush moves, but wanting to learn and get better. Maybe the game is starting to slow down for him.
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by All22:
Hyder is also strictly a DE/DT whereas Ebukam is an OLB/DE. 275lbs vs 245lbs. The extra athleticism on the edge has been very noticeable this year.

He was invisible at the start of the season but has started to make a few plays

After the signing, Ebukam was pretty open about not really having any pass rush moves, but wanting to learn and get better. Maybe the game is starting to slow down for him.

Coach K!

....or maybe coach bosa.....
Far from great but he's scrappy and does a solid job and he stays HEALTHY
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by All22:
Hyder is also strictly a DE/DT whereas Ebukam is an OLB/DE. 275lbs vs 245lbs. The extra athleticism on the edge has been very noticeable this year.

He was invisible at the start of the season but has started to make a few plays

I think moving Armstead inside has had a huge effect on the defense. We're now more stout inside and more athletic outside. Remember, even the Lions we're ripping off huge runs up the middle. Now that we've shut that down our edges are starting to feast (Bosa had 3 sacks last game).

Not to mention, we aren't running single high press man on 3rd downs anymore. QB's were just throwing it up against the single coverage and either coming down with it or getting PI... all before the rush even had a chance.

I think this shows that DeMeco is making adjustments & they're working. The defense has been much better since the Rams game, hoping Nick can get 6 sacks in the last 4 games to break the single season record for the 49ers.

Agree. It would be so cool for Bosa to get 6 sacks (in the next game )
Ebukam is a young guy, only 26 years old, and I'm hoping he continues to improve his game as the season wears on. If he does, he'll be able to free up Bosa for some more additional sacks. Omenihu's another guy that is trending up. He had two tackles recently and his snap counts are trending up also. Key's snap counts have dropped (when compared to the Raiders snap counts) but every sack from here on in, is breaking his all time career records.

Key snaps are down b/c they figured out he's not great rushing from the outside but does a lot better against guards on the interior. So he can only see the field on obvious passing downs b/c of that. Omenihu has been getting his snaps on the outside

Sorry I wasn't very clear. My fault. Key's snaps with the 49ers have steadily been increasing. But, when compared with the Raiders, he's not playing as much with the 49ers as he did with the Raiders. That's what I was trying to say. I've seen Omenihu on the outside and he moves very well and had had some near misses. Key's had some rushes from the outside too, just that he's definitely more effective inside. I haven't seen that much of willis to tell you the truth.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Wow after being invisible for 2/3rds of the seasons Edukam is now good?

🤷‍♂️
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Wow after being invisible for 2/3rds of the seasons Edukam is now good?

🤷‍♂️

I just don't get the designation. If anything Arden Key has performed way better than Ebukam and is on a much better contract. If anything I cut Ebukam, and keep Key. We again overpaid a middle-tier FA hoping they would outperform IMHO. On brand for 49er personnel philosophy.

Ha truth. And Key is better inside now too.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Wow after being invisible for 2/3rds of the seasons Edukam is now good?

🤷‍♂️

I just don't get the designation. If anything Arden Key has performed way better than Ebukam and is on a much better contract. If anything I cut Ebukam, and keep Key. We again overpaid a middle-tier FA hoping they would outperform IMHO. On brand for 49er personnel philosophy.

Ha truth. And Key is better inside now too.

They are both getting better. Ebukam has 1.5 sacks the last two games. Same with Arden.
At this point it's looking up for both Key and Ebukam.

We'll need both of them down the stretch.
Been playing well in the playoffs and the last few games of the regular season
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Originally posted by SlowDownBoy:
Been playing well in the playoffs and the last few games of the regular season

I think the 49ers got five sacks against Green bay.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by SlowDownBoy:
Been playing well in the playoffs and the last few games of the regular season

I think the 49ers got five sacks against Green bay.

Three games straight with with at least five sacks
BALLLERRRRRRRRRRR
He's been durable and has played better as he's gotten used to the scheme

Definitely needs to be kept
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