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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

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Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

#worstteamintheleague

What are you talking about here? Utter nonsense to say that the franchise has sunk like a stone.
I'm sure Kyle the BEST YOUNG MIND IN FOOTBALL must have seen something from Sudfeld that he didn't see from CJ and Mullen for the last 3 years..

It's never a bad idea to invest in PENNY STOCKS !!
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

Rosen couldn't even earn the #3 QB spot in Tampa over a 30 year old named Ryan Griffin. His career is on life support as we speak. Losing out to Sudfeld means it's DOA.

I also think the addition of Sudfeld makes the selection of Fields or Lance more likely. Shanahan has talked about wanting a QB room of guys with similar abilities and Sudfeld is basically a poor man's Joe Flaxco, a guy that they also showed interest in. If you're out there bringing in big-armed backups, I think it makes it more likely than not that you're going to be pursuing a big armed passer with the #3 pick and that isn't Mac Jones.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

Rosen couldn't even earn the #3 QB spot in Tampa over a 30 year old named Ryan Griffin. His career is on life support as we speak. Losing out to Sudfeld means it's DOA.

I also think the addition of Sudfeld makes the selection of Fields or Lance more likely. Shanahan has talked about wanting a QB room of guys with similar abilities and Sudfeld is basically a poor man's Joe Flaxco, a guy that they also showed interest in. If you're out there bringing in big-armed backups, I think it makes it more likely than not that you're going to be pursuing a big armed passer with the #3 pick and that isn't Mac Jones.

IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..
Originally posted by 9moon:
IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..

Or more likely it just says that Rosen was a good college QB that can't hack it in the NFL.

If the 49ers had any confidence in Rosen, they wouldn't have had any reason to look at Sudfeld.

If Tampa had any confidence in Rosen, he would have never been available to the 49ers because they would have put him on their roster. Instead they opted to keep Ryan Griffin over him as their #3 QB.

If you were a Top 10 pick and a few years later you can't even lock up the QB equivalent of the assistant to the regional manager, you're in real trouble.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 9moon:
IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..

Or more likely it just says that Rosen was a good college QB that can't hack it in the NFL.

If the 49ers had any confidence in Rosen, they wouldn't have had any reason to look at Sudfeld.

If Tampa had any confidence in Rosen, he would have never been available to the 49ers because they would have put him on their roster. Instead they opted to keep Ryan Griffin over him as their #3 QB.

If you were a Top 10 pick and a few years later you can't even lock up the QB equivalent of the assistant to the regional manager, you're in real trouble.

People like you have already pre-determined that Rosen will never make YOUR team..

your GM may sign the guy but YOU will never give him a chance because you just don't like him.

DID you ever hear about the Cris Carter story at Minnesota?

OR what about the story of Marvin Lewis and Richard Sherman?
I think nate was hired to be the summer coach of the rookie.

The CBA allows very little coach / player interaction. But does not stop players from getting together.

Nate who happen to spend all year with our now QB coach gets a deal that is most likely not going to end with him on the 53. Sounds like a guy you pay to spend time with your young players to me.
….Carson Wentz saw that his team had taken a quarterback with the 53rd pick in the draft and I think I'm probably the only person in the media who loved the pick, because in my opinion, if you can't be sure that Carson Wentz is going to play the full year, you don't want to have to rely on Nate Sudfeld to play six or eight games for you to get you into the playoffs. You want a good backup quarterback who can play and win games for you."

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/peter-king-mind-boggled-carson-175956003.html

Damn you shanalynch
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

#worstteamintheleague

What are you talking about here? Utter nonsense to say that the franchise has sunk like a stone.

I'm just as confused as you are English.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

Rosen couldn't even earn the #3 QB spot in Tampa over a 30 year old named Ryan Griffin. His career is on life support as we speak. Losing out to Sudfeld means it's DOA.

I also think the addition of Sudfeld makes the selection of Fields or Lance more likely. Shanahan has talked about wanting a QB room of guys with similar abilities and Sudfeld is basically a poor man's Joe Flaxco, a guy that they also showed interest in. If you're out there bringing in big-armed backups, I think it makes it more likely than not that you're going to be pursuing a big armed passer with the #3 pick and that isn't Mac Jones.

IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..

1. Rosen was a top 10 pick with an attitude issue, 2. he couldn't hang in AZ or MIA, 3. if he can't get it done in the offseason, then you cut him, face it then, Rosen isn't an NFL QB. People thought Dwayne Haskins was a lock to be a great QB, then boom, guy busts.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

#worstteamintheleague

What are you talking about here? Utter nonsense to say that the franchise has sunk like a stone.

I'm just as confused as you are English.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

Rosen couldn't even earn the #3 QB spot in Tampa over a 30 year old named Ryan Griffin. His career is on life support as we speak. Losing out to Sudfeld means it's DOA.

I also think the addition of Sudfeld makes the selection of Fields or Lance more likely. Shanahan has talked about wanting a QB room of guys with similar abilities and Sudfeld is basically a poor man's Joe Flaxco, a guy that they also showed interest in. If you're out there bringing in big-armed backups, I think it makes it more likely than not that you're going to be pursuing a big armed passer with the #3 pick and that isn't Mac Jones.

IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..

1. Rosen was a top 10 pick with an attitude issue, 2. he couldn't hang in AZ or MIA, 3. if he can't get it done in the offseason, then you cut him, face it then, Rosen isn't an NFL QB. People thought Dwayne Haskins was a lock to be a great QB, then boom, guy busts.

WRONG AGAINNNN...

Arizona hired a new coach and that new coach wanted his QB and that's why Rosen was traded to Miami

Miami's owner made the Tua pick and that's why Rosen did not count anymore..

DONT EVER THINK that both Arizona and Miami would not ship Murray and Tua some place else IF they were picking first this year..

I'm not sure if you KNOW this, Steve Young was not traded to us because he was a BUST.. he was traded because RAY PERKINS knew they were drafting

Vinny Testaverde and did not need Steve Young..
[ Edited by 9moon on Apr 18, 2021 at 11:05 AM ]
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

#worstteamintheleague

What are you talking about here? Utter nonsense to say that the franchise has sunk like a stone.

I'm just as confused as you are English.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

Rosen couldn't even earn the #3 QB spot in Tampa over a 30 year old named Ryan Griffin. His career is on life support as we speak. Losing out to Sudfeld means it's DOA.

I also think the addition of Sudfeld makes the selection of Fields or Lance more likely. Shanahan has talked about wanting a QB room of guys with similar abilities and Sudfeld is basically a poor man's Joe Flaxco, a guy that they also showed interest in. If you're out there bringing in big-armed backups, I think it makes it more likely than not that you're going to be pursuing a big armed passer with the #3 pick and that isn't Mac Jones.

IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..

1. Rosen was a top 10 pick with an attitude issue, 2. he couldn't hang in AZ or MIA, 3. if he can't get it done in the offseason, then you cut him, face it then, Rosen isn't an NFL QB. People thought Dwayne Haskins was a lock to be a great QB, then boom, guy busts.

WRONG AGAINNNN...

Arizona hired a new coach and that new coach wanted his QB and that's why Rosen was traded to Miami

Miami's owner made the Tua pick and that's why Rosen did not count anymore..

DONT EVER THINK that both Arizona and Miami would not ship Murray and Tua some place else IF they were picking first this year..

I'm not sure if you KNOW this, Steve Young was not traded to us because he was a BUST.. he was traded because SAM PERKINS knew they were drafting

Vinny Testaverde and did not need Steve Young..

How's he wrong?

Rosen was literally force fed the ball his rookie year and failed horribly. Went to Miami and was a turnover machine in the few opportunities they actually gave him while completing only 53% of his passes. Couldn't even make the active roster in Tampa as a practice squad player.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jimmy is gone. Fields will be the pick with Sudfield the backup.

Then i hope pain is something we will enjoy. if this is indeed the way it is.. wow. this franchise has sunk like a stone in two years

#worstteamintheleague

What are you talking about here? Utter nonsense to say that the franchise has sunk like a stone.

I'm just as confused as you are English.

Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

Rosen couldn't even earn the #3 QB spot in Tampa over a 30 year old named Ryan Griffin. His career is on life support as we speak. Losing out to Sudfeld means it's DOA.

I also think the addition of Sudfeld makes the selection of Fields or Lance more likely. Shanahan has talked about wanting a QB room of guys with similar abilities and Sudfeld is basically a poor man's Joe Flaxco, a guy that they also showed interest in. If you're out there bringing in big-armed backups, I think it makes it more likely than not that you're going to be pursuing a big armed passer with the #3 pick and that isn't Mac Jones.

IF Rosen gets cut w/o any chance to compete for the backup in Training Camp, then this just tells you that Shan Choker is just AFRAID to give Rosen a chance to make the team or even prove that he can be a GOOD QB in this league..

Keeping Sudfeld over Rosen w/o any competition is just basically handing whichever QB he drafts the backup job, just the way BAKER was told that he just won the backup QB from the 2nd or 3rd stringer..

1. Rosen was a top 10 pick with an attitude issue, 2. he couldn't hang in AZ or MIA, 3. if he can't get it done in the offseason, then you cut him, face it then, Rosen isn't an NFL QB. People thought Dwayne Haskins was a lock to be a great QB, then boom, guy busts.

WRONG AGAINNNN...

Arizona hired a new coach and that new coach wanted his QB and that's why Rosen was traded to Miami

Miami's owner made the Tua pick and that's why Rosen did not count anymore..

DONT EVER THINK that both Arizona and Miami would not ship Murray and Tua some place else IF they were picking first this year..

I'm not sure if you KNOW this, Steve Young was not traded to us because he was a BUST.. he was traded because SAM PERKINS knew they were drafting

Vinny Testaverde and did not need Steve Young..

How's he wrong?

Rosen was literally force fed the ball his rookie year and failed horribly. Went to Miami and was a turnover machine in the few opportunities they actually gave him while completing only 53% of his passes. Couldn't even make the active roster in Tampa as a practice squad player.

YOU'RE JOKING, RIGHT ???

do you know how bad ARIZONA was when Rosen was there in his rookie year?? his ROOKIE year !!! IF Mahomes can't even beat Alex Smith in his rookie year, what do you expect from Rosen from his rookie year w/the Cards?

oh, did you know Rosen beat our team the first time we played them??

bottom line, why don't you try answering the QUESTION...

Had Miami and Arizona be picking first in this year's draft, do you think they'll move on from Murray or Tua and draft Trevor ??
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Well we do have a head coach that might draft Mac Jones over Justin Fields. So not sure we could completely put the blame on Rosen if he gets cut.

I hope to God we don't draft Jones at 3. I will say with confidence that if Rosen is clearly better than Sudfield on the practice field he'll make the team. Who the team takes at 3 is them simply projecting what rookie qb will eventually be the best for their scheme not necessarily who's the best on the field right now.

Agree. I think Josh Jhonson is basically the covid QB guy that will mimic the two NFC west Midgets in practice. The competition would be between Rosen and Sudfeld for one of the QB backup positions. QB pick #3 would be the primary backup to Jimmy if Jimmy starts.
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