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Arden Key, DL
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:18 PM
- LVJay
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Do he need to be fed? He look lanky but I bet he can still man handle McGrinch
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:18 PM
- Paul_Hofer
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Does this mean the team won't be signing Ronald Blair?
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:21 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Does this mean the team won't be signing Ronald Blair?
I thought we already did?
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:21 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Key was an under-achiever with the Raiders...but, they don't have Coach Kocurek, either. I'll bet he'll get more out of Arden than LV did. Love this and the Gallman signing. And neither has anything to do with drafting Mac Jones! Coach will take either Fields or Lance, bank it.
Me too. Love when that Moneyball machine spits these out.
Lol
Exactly what I was thinking
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:24 PM
- 808niner4lyphe
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IIRC, He had some first round talent buzz coming out of college before a failed drug test and struggled with weight control derailed it and fell off the cliff, I remember some even had him in top 10 talent. He also went to the Jon Gruden led Raiders who are not really good in developing anyone's career especially defensive players, more like killing their careers before it starts. New scenery with much much better coaching could bring out the disruptive LSU player he was known for. He was an attack tiger who was caged up in Paul Guenther's two gap read and react scheme. He'll fit well in with the Niner's attack and destroy scheme. Low risk, high reward signing if works out.
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:36 PM
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wasn't he someone's 3rd round draft crush a few years ago
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:39 PM
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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
IIRC, He had some first round talent buzz coming out of college before a failed drug test and struggled with weight control derailed it and fell off the cliff, I remember some even had him in top 10 talent. He also went to the Jon Gruden led Raiders who are not really good in developing anyone's career especially defensive players, more like killing their careers before it starts. New scenery with much much better coaching could bring out the disruptive LSU player he was known for. He was an attack tiger who was caged up in Paul Guenther's two gap read and react scheme. He'll fit well in with the Niner's attack and destroy scheme. Low risk, high reward signing if works out.
I like this analysis!
Apr 21, 2021 at 5:46 PM
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I dont have super high expectations but I like taking a chance on the kid. Very little risk and nice upside potential.
Apr 21, 2021 at 6:08 PM
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
IIRC, He had some first round talent buzz coming out of college before a failed drug test and struggled with weight control derailed it and fell off the cliff, I remember some even had him in top 10 talent. He also went to the Jon Gruden led Raiders who are not really good in developing anyone's career especially defensive players, more like killing their careers before it starts. New scenery with much much better coaching could bring out the disruptive LSU player he was known for. He was an attack tiger who was caged up in Paul Guenther's two gap read and react scheme. He'll fit well in with the Niner's attack and destroy scheme. Low risk, high reward signing if works out.
I like this analysis!
I like this analysis of the analysis
Apr 21, 2021 at 6:10 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Does this mean the team won't be signing Ronald Blair?
I thought we already did?
He was in for a physical and a possible signing but I don't remember seeing an article on that being finalized. I also don't see him on the current roster lists.
Apr 21, 2021 at 7:11 PM
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Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
IIRC, He had some first round talent buzz coming out of college before a failed drug test and struggled with weight control derailed it and fell off the cliff, I remember some even had him in top 10 talent. He also went to the Jon Gruden led Raiders who are not really good in developing anyone's career especially defensive players, more like killing their careers before it starts. New scenery with much much better coaching could bring out the disruptive LSU player he was known for. He was an attack tiger who was caged up in Paul Guenther's two gap read and react scheme. He'll fit well in with the Niner's attack and destroy scheme. Low risk, high reward signing if works out.
I like this analysis!
I like this analysis of the analysis
Apr 21, 2021 at 7:11 PM
- LVJay
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Koc and Bosa will be key reasons why Ardon will become the key to 3rd down stops
Apr 21, 2021 at 8:27 PM
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Camp body
Apr 21, 2021 at 8:28 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:Does this mean the team won't be signing Ronald Blair?
I thought we already did?
Not officially, but it's on the docket. However, Ford and Blair are injury prone and BIG question marks entering training camp. Bosa is still in recovery.
So here's our current healthly EDGE players: Armstead, Ebukam, Willis, and Barrett. In other words...1.5 EDGE players at full health. Armstead is a DT on passing downs. Willis and Barrett have not proven themselves.
I expect a Day 3 EDGE pick, but Key probably has higher upside than another UDFA player.
Apr 21, 2021 at 9:39 PM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by GEEK:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Does this mean the team won't be signing Ronald Blair?
I thought we already did?
Not officially, but it's on the docket. However, Ford and Blair are injury prone and BIG question marks entering training camp. Bosa is still in recovery.
So here's our current healthly EDGE players: Armstead, Ebukam, Willis, and Barrett. In other words...1.5 EDGE players at full health. Armstead is a DT on passing downs. Willis and Barrett have not proven themselves.
I expect a Day 3 EDGE pick, but Key probably has higher upside than another UDFA player.
I might be wrong but I don't think they re-signed Willis yet??