Arden Key, DL | Page 35 | 49ers Webzone Forum

Feb 10, 2022 at 7:39 AM

lamontb
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
One year on the team plus another off season with Kocurek, I can't wait to see how much Key and Ebukam improve.

Don't be surprised if a team, say the Dolphins with a particular HC with familiarity of Key and a boatload of FA money comes calling and we decline to get into a bidding war. Obviously I hope he stays, signs another 1-year deal, has another good year and cashed in big time. But he may see the $$ elsewhere this offseason and bolt.

Not this again. Just like Saleh signed all the FA niners last year?

Feb 10, 2022 at 7:41 AM

#512

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
One year on the team plus another off season with Kocurek, I can't wait to see how much Key and Ebukam improve.

Don't be surprised if a team, say the Dolphins with a particular HC with familiarity of Key and a boatload of FA money comes calling and we decline to get into a bidding war. Obviously I hope he stays, signs another 1-year deal, has another good year and cashed in big time. But he may see the $$ elsewhere this offseason and bolt.

Not this again. Just like Saleh signed all the FA niners last year?

Saleh (a defensive-minded coach) took Tevin Coleman. McDaniel (an offensive-minded coach) could do the reciprocal…

Feb 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM

#513

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
One year on the team plus another off season with Kocurek, I can't wait to see how much Key and Ebukam improve.

Don't be surprised if a team, say the Dolphins with a particular HC with familiarity of Key and a boatload of FA money comes calling and we decline to get into a bidding war. Obviously I hope he stays, signs another 1-year deal, has another good year and cashed in big time. But he may see the $$ elsewhere this offseason and bolt.

Key looks good, but a bidding war for a player with ONE year worth of production would be a horrible start to McDaniel's tenure. If anything, he will have learned the value in building a team through the draft. He saw the talent level of the team rise by good drafting, not by expensive free agent signings. One could argue expensive free agents signings have been more harmful then helpful. I see if anything, maybe a Jeff Wilson going there. Someone that won't cost much, but knows the system well.

Feb 11, 2022 at 10:25 AM

#514

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
One year on the team plus another off season with Kocurek, I can't wait to see how much Key and Ebukam improve.

Don't be surprised if a team, say the Dolphins with a particular HC with familiarity of Key and a boatload of FA money comes calling and we decline to get into a bidding war. Obviously I hope he stays, signs another 1-year deal, has another good year and cashed in big time. But he may see the $$ elsewhere this offseason and bolt.

Not this again. Just like Saleh signed all the FA niners last year?

Saleh (a defensive-minded coach) took Tevin Coleman. McDaniel (an offensive-minded coach) could do the reciprocal…

If they have a boatload of FA money, why not spend it on proven commodity? Not a player who's had one good year.

Feb 11, 2022 at 10:32 AM

#515

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Originally posted by Alfienator:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
One year on the team plus another off season with Kocurek, I can't wait to see how much Key and Ebukam improve.

Don't be surprised if a team, say the Dolphins with a particular HC with familiarity of Key and a boatload of FA money comes calling and we decline to get into a bidding war. Obviously I hope he stays, signs another 1-year deal, has another good year and cashed in big time. But he may see the $$ elsewhere this offseason and bolt.

Not this again. Just like Saleh signed all the FA niners last year?

Saleh (a defensive-minded coach) took Tevin Coleman. McDaniel (an offensive-minded coach) could do the reciprocal…
If they have a boatload of FA money, why not spend it on proven commodity? Not a player who's had one good year.

Exactly.

Feb 13, 2022 at 10:39 AM

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It depends on what defensive system McDaniel's chooses to use because I believe the Dolphins currently run a 3-4 system.

So if they choose to change over to a wide 9 4-3 system it may take a year or two.

Truthfully if he wants to have success on the defensive side of the ball immediately he should just hire Vic fangio as his defensive coordinator and continue to build within the current system

[ Edited by SlowDownBoy on Feb 13, 2022 at 10:41 AM ]

Feb 13, 2022 at 5:35 PM

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Seattle win sign him. They're obsessed with us.

Feb 13, 2022 at 5:36 PM

#518

NinerBuff
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Originally posted by FL9er:
Seattle win sign him. They're obsessed with us.

lol this

Feb 14, 2022 at 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Seattle win sign him. They're obsessed with us.

lol this

Afree the Kerry Hyder failure, that would be stupid. Big money on a player with 1 year of production for the 49ers?

Feb 14, 2022 at 11:35 AM

#520

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by FL9er:
Seattle win sign him. They're obsessed with us.

lol this

Afree the Kerry Hyder failure, that would be stupid. Big money on a player with 1 year of production for the 49ers?

Yeah everyone keeps thinking Key is going to get a a huge deal for a half of a year production. Key's agent is telling him to stay with the 49ers on a 1 year deal so he can replicate his success and cash in big for 2023. Key would be stupid to go somewhere else on a mid-tier contract where he might not be used the right and he basically lands in Hyder's situation right now.

Feb 14, 2022 at 10:32 PM

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Maybe you guys are right about Seattle over paying him, and then maybe he'll revert back to what he was with the Raiders lol

Then Hyder returns to us and becomes 8 (or more) sacks guy with Kocurek

Feb 14, 2022 at 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Maybe you guys are right about Seattle over paying him, and then maybe he'll revert back to what he was with the Raiders lol

Then Hyder returns to us and becomes 8 (or more) sacks guy with Kocurek

Now that would be funny. The Seahawks signed Hyder and put him inside. If they sign Key and leave him outside, it'll be the same s**t again.

I don't understand the Seahawk's logic behind signing Hyder and putting him inside. They saw him shine in the wide 9 at edge, so they signed him and moved him away from that...

I hope they cut him. I'd love to have him back.

[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 14, 2022 at 10:34 PM ]

Feb 14, 2022 at 10:41 PM

#523

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Originally posted by Heroism:
Now that would be funny. The Seahawks signed Hyder and put him inside. If they sign Key and leave him outside, it'll be the same s**t again.

I don't understand the Seahawk's logic behind signing Hyder and putting him inside. They saw him shine in the wide 9 at edge, so they signed him and moved him away from that... I hope they cut him. I'd love to have him back.

LOL Carroll needs to retire, Wilson been saving his sorry ass all these years. I can't wait for the tables to turn when we start sweeping that ass

Feb 15, 2022 at 2:27 PM

#524

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Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Maybe you guys are right about Seattle over paying him, and then maybe he'll revert back to what he was with the Raiders lol

Then Hyder returns to us and becomes 8 (or more) sacks guy with Kocurek

I kinda want both but I think we are "full" on D-line.

Omenihu, Bosa, Ebukam (restructured deal), a rookie speed rusher, and Hyder (on a vet min if Seattle releases him) at edge and Jones, Armstead, Key, Givens, and Kinlaw inside. Probably 1 too many lol.

Feb 15, 2022 at 5:53 PM

#525

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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I kinda want both but I think we are "full" on D-line.

Omenihu, Bosa, Ebukam (restructured deal), a rookie speed rusher, and Hyder (on a vet min if Seattle releases him) at edge and Jones, Armstead, Key, Givens, and Kinlaw inside. Probably 1 too many lol.

Truth. Man, that's a lot of talent and depth. Maybe stash rookie on the PS if we get one.