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San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

.@greggrosenthal: NFC West projected starters: Top-heavy Rams, Trey Lance-led(?) 49ers each havehttps://t.co/sARECt5F7C pic.twitter.com/DfGp5C7Ld5

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) May 21, 2021

San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

I think it's the opposite. The 49ers have good depth, but there's no impact guy like Defo. None of our IDL scare opposing offenses. The 49ers no longer have that interior player that warrants sliding the protection in his direction. Everyone on the roster, for the most part, is blockable one-on-one right now.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by SFrush:
and you would be wrong.

Facts are facts. Here's me on September 14 defending Kinlaw. I don't play these emotional, butthurt games people tend to do. Play good and you get props; play bad and you get called out. The mark of good play is consistency. I try to keep it 100 with every player.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Umm, what? That second play isn't "bad." It's neither good nor bad. In fact, this happened in the first quarter, and he ADJUSTED to it in the second quarter. The guard is a two-handed high puncher; Kinlaw adjusts the timing of counter club and reduces his surface area as he crosses his face.

If anything, that "bad" play is strong evidence that he's processing things upstairs.

The ugly play is what it is. He's a rookie, got high and paid for it against two Ol. He'll learn.

You were calling Greenlaw a liability in coverage after the first preseason game of his pro career. That doesn't make me believe you're always objective.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

.@greggrosenthal: NFC West projected starters: Top-heavy Rams, Trey Lance-led(?) 49ers each havehttps://t.co/sARECt5F7C pic.twitter.com/DfGp5C7Ld5

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) May 21, 2021

San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

I read this Rosenthal article and laughed at his above comment in bold about the DL interior group not being as deep as it was during the 2019 SB run. Makes me think he's not really in tune with what the team has on the interior right now. He must not know about the Kerr & Hurst additions as those are excellent additions for this D scheme and I think we'll see it play out as such.

Yes, the SB team had Buckner in the middle but it also had Sheldon Day getting a lot of starts. I'm looking at the interior DL group for this season and I see it as a definite strength - I really like its talent and depth: Kinlaw, Jones, Kerr, Hurst, Givens (hope his situation clears up), Street & Daniels.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

.@greggrosenthal: NFC West projected starters: Top-heavy Rams, Trey Lance-led(?) 49ers each havehttps://t.co/sARECt5F7C pic.twitter.com/DfGp5C7Ld5

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) May 21, 2021

San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

I think it's the opposite. The 49ers have good depth, but there's no impact guy like Defo. None of our IDL scare opposing offenses. The 49ers no longer have that interior player that warrants sliding the protection in his direction. Everyone on the roster, for the most part, is blockable one-on-one right now.

Agreed. At the same time, not all teams can get to the QB with just 4 guys pass rushing. When they can it's a luxury that most teams are trying to have. That's why a pass rush needs to be schemed with blitz packages.

Hopefully, Kinlaw can become a dominating force on the inside and require double teams. Sliding the protection in Kinlaw's direction doesn't seem likely with Bosa on the field though. Obviously, Bosa is going to be the one demanding the double team. If they both become worthy of a double team then that's when they really have something special. 4 out of 5 OL blocking just 2 guys would be nasty. Granted they could have the TE and RB chipping away at Bosa on the edge.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by Heroism:
I posted both of those clips in the Kinlaw thread. I give credit when it's due. Those clips are examples of plays that were few and far between during the season. The only consistency to Kinlaw's game was him getting his ass handed to him throughout the season.

and you would be wrong.

He's more than wrong on This one

When teams' OLs this year have to account for a playmaking end like Bosa, I believe it's going to once again open things up on the interior and new additions like Kerr & Hurst in this scheme could cause havoc in the middle in taking advantage of more favorable matchups. And Kinlaw...looking forward to seeing his development from his rookie campaign - again, having a guy like Bosa out there for a full season will help a lot and we'll see if Kinlaw can improve and take advantage of certain situations/matchups.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
When teams' OLs this year have to account for a playmaking end like Bosa, I believe it's going to once again open things up on the interior and new additions like Kerr & Hurst in this scheme could cause havoc in the middle in taking advantage of more favorable matchups. And Kinlaw...looking forward to seeing his development from his rookie campaign - again, having a guy like Bosa out there for a full season will help a lot and we'll see if Kinlaw can improve and take advantage of certain situations/matchups.

The Defense In general should look Improved this year with an healthy Bosa, Even Arik looked amazing with the Assistance of Bosa

It's gonna be exciting to see how much Kin has Improved from his rookie year.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
When teams' OLs this year have to account for a playmaking end like Bosa, I believe it's going to once again open things up on the interior and new additions like Kerr & Hurst in this scheme could cause havoc in the middle in taking advantage of more favorable matchups. And Kinlaw...looking forward to seeing his development from his rookie campaign - again, having a guy like Bosa out there for a full season will help a lot and we'll see if Kinlaw can improve and take advantage of certain situations/matchups.

The Defense In general should look Improved this year with an healthy Bosa, Even Arik looked amazing with the Assistance of Bosa

It's gonna be exciting to see how much Kin has Improved from his rookie year.

Agreed.

Also, imagine if Ford can come back and contribute on the other end (not counting on it but still hoping)...and, hopefully Ebukam can step in and play some good football & be disruptive in creating some pressures.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
When teams' OLs this year have to account for a playmaking end like Bosa, I believe it's going to once again open things up on the interior and new additions like Kerr & Hurst in this scheme could cause havoc in the middle in taking advantage of more favorable matchups. And Kinlaw...looking forward to seeing his development from his rookie campaign - again, having a guy like Bosa out there for a full season will help a lot and we'll see if Kinlaw can improve and take advantage of certain situations/matchups.

The Defense In general should look Improved this year with an healthy Bosa, Even Arik looked amazing with the Assistance of Bosa

It's gonna be exciting to see how much Kin has Improved from his rookie year.

Agreed.

Also, imagine if Ford can come back and contribute on the other end (not counting on it but still hoping)...and, hopefully Ebukam can step in and play some good football & be disruptive in creating some pressures.

We'd most likely have the most disruptive D-line In the NFL If ford was able to stay healthy for once, but we know that's unlikely to happen, so a lot will depend on Bosa retuning to form and Kinlaw's progression... fingers crossed

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

.@greggrosenthal: NFC West projected starters: Top-heavy Rams, Trey Lance-led(?) 49ers each havehttps://t.co/sARECt5F7C pic.twitter.com/DfGp5C7Ld5

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) May 21, 2021

San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

I read this Rosenthal article and laughed at his above comment in bold about the DL interior group not being as deep as it was during the 2019 SB run. Makes me think he's not really in tune with what the team has on the interior right now. He must not know about the Kerr & Hurst additions as those are excellent additions for this D scheme and I think we'll see it play out as such.

Yes, the SB team had Buckner in the middle but it also had Sheldon Day getting a lot of starts. I'm looking at the interior DL group for this season and I see it as a definite strength - I really like its talent and depth: Kinlaw, Jones, Kerr, Hurst, Givens (hope his situation clears up), Street & Daniels.

I agree. I look at Kerry Hyder, he's average in read-&-react defenses, then comes here and leaves us with a 11 million dollar contact in a year where the cap shrinks down.

The guys being brought in look tailor made for Kocurek's defense, and if the Hyder model holds true, these new guys should double their sack total from their previous teams (if not more). Now add in Bosa at 85%-95% and hopefully a 100% healthy Kinlaw thats learned some pass rush tricks in the off-season, I definitely think its a solid if not an outstanding squad.

I'm particularly focused on Arden and Ebukam to replace Dee Fords production opposit Bosa. I really want to see how they take to Kocurek's system. I hope to see and hear good things from them this offseason.

Getting back to the original point that led to the Kinlaw discussion: Mo Hurst can steal that starting 3tech spot if Kinlaw doesn't get better and the 49ers give him a fair chance. I don't know what the hell Gruden was thinking when he cut this dude, but I'll chalk it up to the Raiders being the Raiders.

Here's a Mo-Hurst preview from last season to get you excited for this season: Hurst seals the victory for the Raiders with a pure POWER rush on a 3-man rush. He barrels through 3 blockers with get-off, power, and natural leverage. Feet never stop working. He uses a BEAUTIFUL forklift technique to pry off and control the center's inside hand as he works half man and bulldozes his way to the QB.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

.@greggrosenthal: NFC West projected starters: Top-heavy Rams, Trey Lance-led(?) 49ers each havehttps://t.co/sARECt5F7C pic.twitter.com/DfGp5C7Ld5

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) May 21, 2021

San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

I read this Rosenthal article and laughed at his above comment in bold about the DL interior group not being as deep as it was during the 2019 SB run. Makes me think he's not really in tune with what the team has on the interior right now. He must not know about the Kerr & Hurst additions as those are excellent additions for this D scheme and I think we'll see it play out as such.

Yes, the SB team had Buckner in the middle but it also had Sheldon Day getting a lot of starts. I'm looking at the interior DL group for this season and I see it as a definite strength - I really like its talent and depth: Kinlaw, Jones, Kerr, Hurst, Givens (hope his situation clears up), Street & Daniels.

I agree. I look at Kerry Hyder, he's average in read-&-react defenses, then comes here and leaves us with a 11 million dollar contact in a year where the cap shrinks down.

The guys being brought in look tailor made for Kocurek's defense, and if the Hyder model holds true, these new guys should double their sack total from their previous teams (if not more). Now add in Bosa at 85%-95% and hopefully a 100% healthy Kinlaw thats learned some pass rush tricks in the off-season, I definitely think its a solid if not an outstanding squad.

I'm particularly focused on Arden and Ebukam to replace Dee Fords production opposit Bosa. I really want to see how they take to Kocurek's system. I hope to see and hear good things from them this offseason.

Good post, Giedi. If this team can get some good production from Ebukam and Key (counting on Ebukam a lot more), the pressure this DL could generate would really cause issues for other teams. I know Key didn't do much during his time with the Raiders...we'll see how he does in this scheme with the talent around him on this DL.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Getting back to the original point that led to the Kinlaw discussion: Mo Hurst can steal that starting 3tech spot if Kinlaw doesn't get better and the 49ers give him a fair chance. I don't know what the hell Gruden was thinking when he cut this dude, but I'll chalk it up to the Raiders being the Raiders.

Here's a Mo-Hurst preview from last season to get you excited for this season: Hurst seals the victory for the Raiders last with a pure POWER rush on a 3-man rush. He barrels through 3 blockers with get-off, power, and natural leverage. Feet never stop working. He uses a BEAUTIFUL forklift technique to pry off and control the center's inside hand as he works half man and bulldozes his way to the QB.

Hurst can make some plays and be disruptive, no doubt about it. I'm looking forward to the Niners giving him a fair chance. From what I've seen of Hurst, I can see him doing very well in this scheme and getting plenty of playing time with the rotations, regardless of whether he starts off as the starting 3-tech.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

.@greggrosenthal: NFC West projected starters: Top-heavy Rams, Trey Lance-led(?) 49ers each havehttps://t.co/sARECt5F7C pic.twitter.com/DfGp5C7Ld5

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) May 21, 2021

San Francisco's defensive line is still very good with Nick Bosa and Arik Armstead leading the way. But the group isn't as deep as it was during its Super Bowl, especially on the interior.

Obviously trading one of the best IDL in the league hurt, but the depth is still there. This was written by Rosenthal two days ago. He doesn't get specific, but he must be unimpressed with the Hurst and Kerr additions, along with re-signing Jones. 🤷‍♂️

I read this Rosenthal article and laughed at his above comment in bold about the DL interior group not being as deep as it was during the 2019 SB run. Makes me think he's not really in tune with what the team has on the interior right now. He must not know about the Kerr & Hurst additions as those are excellent additions for this D scheme and I think we'll see it play out as such.

Yes, the SB team had Buckner in the middle but it also had Sheldon Day getting a lot of starts. I'm looking at the interior DL group for this season and I see it as a definite strength - I really like its talent and depth: Kinlaw, Jones, Kerr, Hurst, Givens (hope his situation clears up), Street & Daniels.

That's what I thought too. Assuming health we'll have much better than average depth at the 1T and 3T positions. I'm really looking forward to see what Hurst and Kerr can offer.