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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Why would we want trey to be dak? He's not even top 10

Allen
Wilson
Watson
Brady
Mahommes
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Tannahill

All better. And Brees and rivers retired. They're better too.

Lol no. Dak is better than burrow, herb, roofles, tannehill, Stafford, Watson isn't even playing. Dak is a borderline top 5 QB. It sucks to admit bc I hate the cowboys but only a biased idiot could watch Dak over these past few years and say "meh"

People said the same thing about Romo. Cowboys qbs get overvalued. He's is not a top 5 qb. No way. Sorry. And if people are OK with trey being a borderline top 5 qb, so be it. Not me.
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I think it's our expectations of Trey. If dak is what Trey becomes, I'd be disappointed.

Why? Dak is damn good…he looked very impressive vs a very good Bucs team last night. 400 yards completed 72% of his passes, 3 to 1 TD/INT.

I've seen Crocker say Lance is a stronger armed Dak, every fan should be stoked for that…let's put the Dallas hate to the side and be objective here.

Because the qb i want wins that game last night 9 out of 10. Was there any doubt that Brady was going to lead that team down the field at the end of the game? Montana would,, Elway would,, mahommes would, wilson would. Its not about about stats. I wish we would stop looking at stats. Jameis has great stats, rivers had great stats. It means nothing.

Also, give any qb the talent that dak has and he will look good.

Dude, if Trey turns into anything remotely close to Dak, I'll be stoked. Turn those Cowboy-hating blinders off, Dak is a hell of a QB.

That interception he threw? Even though he threw it into traffic, it was right on the money to Lamb who dropped it. There's only 3-4 guys that can even attempt that throw, let alone make it.

Cowboys would've won that game if not for their kicker. Two missed FGs (though one was from 60yds) and an XP missed.

Given Dak didn't play all preseason because of his shoulder injury he played a hell of a game. I was impressed. I thought they were going to win it for a while.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Why would we want trey to be dak? He's not even top 10

Allen
Wilson
Watson
Brady
Mahommes
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Tannahill

All better. And Brees and rivers retired. They're better too.

Lol no. Dak is better than burrow, herb, roofles, tannehill, Stafford, Watson isn't even playing. Dak is a borderline top 5 QB. It sucks to admit bc I hate the cowboys but only a biased idiot could watch Dak over these past few years and say "meh"

People said the same thing about Romo. Cowboys qbs get overvalued. He's is not a top 5 qb. No way. Sorry. And if people are OK with trey being a borderline top 5 qb, so be it. Not me.

Bro top 5 is almost guaranteed to be Hall of Fame. The odds of getting a Hall of Fame QB are astronomically low. I'll be happy with a few Pro Bowl appearances.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Why would we want trey to be dak? He's not even top 10

Allen
Wilson
Watson
Brady
Mahommes
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Tannahill

All better. And Brees and rivers retired. They're better too.

Lol no. Dak is better than burrow, herb, roofles, tannehill, Stafford, Watson isn't even playing. Dak is a borderline top 5 QB. It sucks to admit bc I hate the cowboys but only a biased idiot could watch Dak over these past few years and say "meh"

People said the same thing about Romo. Cowboys qbs get overvalued. He's is not a top 5 qb. No way. Sorry. And if people are OK with trey being a borderline top 5 qb, so be it. Not me.

Bro top 5 is almost guaranteed to be Hall of Fame. The odds of getting a Hall of Fame QB are astronomically low. I'll be happy with a few Pro Bowl appearances.

Hes not top 5 that's my point. If you're telling me that there are 5, 6, or 7 better qbs than Trey in 5 years, i'll be pissed.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
People said the same thing about Romo. Cowboys qbs get overvalued. He's is not a top 5 qb. No way. Sorry. And if people are OK with trey being a borderline top 5 qb, so be it. Not me.

Guy are you serious? Romo was an incredible QB. And you are delusional if you think having a borderline top 5 QB isn't a great spot to be in
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
People said the same thing about Romo. Cowboys qbs get overvalued. He's is not a top 5 qb. No way. Sorry. And if people are OK with trey being a borderline top 5 qb, so be it. Not me.

Guy are you serious? Romo was an incredible QB. And you are delusional if you think having a borderline top 5 QB isn't a great spot to be in

I actually agree with him in the Romo thing. Romo was good, but he was highly overrated in my opinion. Dak is completely different from Romo though.

And if 5 years we're arguing that Trey is a top5 QB, I will be completely happy with that. That would be a godsend. Of course I want Trey to be #1, but the likely hold of him dethroning Mahomes and/or Allen (the next Manning/Brady imo) is slim to none.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Why would we want trey to be dak? He's not even top 10

Allen
Wilson
Watson
Brady
Mahommes
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Tannahill

All better. And Brees and rivers retired. They're better too.

Lol no. Dak is better than burrow, herb, roofles, tannehill, Stafford, Watson isn't even playing. Dak is a borderline top 5 QB. It sucks to admit bc I hate the cowboys but only a biased idiot could watch Dak over these past few years and say "meh"

Dak is a bonified stud. Easily top 10. Trey kind of looks like a little more athletic,canon armed version. A little Wilson and McNair mixed in. Going to take some time
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Why would we want trey to be dak? He's not even top 10

Allen
Wilson
Watson
Brady
Mahommes
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Tannahill

All better. And Brees and rivers retired. They're better too.

Allen, Wilson, Watson, Brady, Mahomes, Herbert and Rodgers are the only guys on that list that are for sure over Dak
Originally posted by illinois9er:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Why would we want trey to be dak? He's not even top 10

Allen
Wilson
Watson
Brady
Mahommes
Burrow
Herbert
Stafford
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Tannahill

All better. And Brees and rivers retired. They're better too.

Allen, Wilson, Watson, Brady, Mahomes, Herbert and Rodgers are the only guys on that list that are for sure over Dak

That's about right. Dak sees the field beautifully and is absolutely stoic in the pocket. Trey seems to be pretty stoic in there too.
I have no idea how anyone comes away from watching the game last night not being impressed with Dak after his horrific injury the year prior. If Lance become 90% of Dak then we're competing for championships every single season.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
A mobile QB like Trey isn't going to run a lot in Kyle's system. My guess is he'll be used more as a decoy so Mostert and the other backs can get yards a little easier. The defense can't really come up to stop the run as long as the ball is in the QBs hands. At the same time they can't lay back because he can tuck it and run. They're kind of stuck in no man's land. If Trey makes 3 or 4 runs a game and picks up a couple of 1st downs, then his value will be recognized. That's assuming he can run the passing part effectively. We'll see.

I know a lot of people don't think Montana was a mobile QB because he was so beat up in his last few years but he averaged 3.9 yards a carry. In his early career he was very mobile and often pulled the ball down and ran for first downs.

Go watch 2012 Redskins film.

I think you're overblowing what our offense would look like if we're relying on the Redskins. That was also during the time when the zone-read was becoming a fad in the league - I mean, it led to Chip Kelly being in Philly for 2013,14 and 15 and then with us, then out of the league.

It's well known that the Shanahan's liked Kirk Cousins a lot more(and they were right on that one) and weren't running the offense they really wanted to run.

I'm not saying we won't utlize zone-read. But I doubt it's going to be a heavy-dose of actual QB runs. We'll have a lot of designed runs that use the QB as a decoy, only. There won't actually be any reading done by the QB on a number of those plays. They'll use them(actual zone-reads) from time to time to keep the defense honest, but I doubt you're going to see Trey run over 100 times like RGIII.

Trey's running is an add-on, not a central point.
[ Edited by jonnydel on Sep 10, 2021 at 9:31 AM ]
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Bro top 5 is almost guaranteed to be Hall of Fame. The odds of getting a Hall of Fame QB are astronomically low. I'll be happy with a few Pro Bowl appearances.

I'll be happy with super bowl wins
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Because the qb i want wins that game last night 9 out of 10. Was there any doubt that Brady was going to lead that team down the field at the end of the game? Montana would,, Elway would,, mahommes would, wilson would. Its not about about stats. I wish we would stop looking at stats. Jameis has great stats, rivers had great stats. It means nothing.

Also, give any qb the talent that dak has and he will look good.

Dude did you watch that game? Dak was not the reason they lost. Make the FGs.

for someone that so defensive about Jimmy you got no problem blaming Dak for a loss

I know Andy Dalton was just amazing last yr with "all that talent"
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I have no idea how anyone comes away from watching the game last night not being impressed with Dak after his horrific injury the year prior. If Lance become 90% of Dak then we're competing for championships every single season.

For real…what a silly take.

If Dak played on SF he'd be a Dak truther just like he is with Jimmy. Fans can't be objective it's almost impossible in here.
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