Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I agree with everything you said except that last paragraph.

There is no way Jimmy is coming back next year. We need that $26M rollover for Bosa's extension.

Jed gotta hock the family yacht.

$26m is nothing to the York's. That's a Vegas vacation to them.

The York's don't keep that money or whatever…it's a salary cap situation.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Mechanics are important but a feel for the game is more important. Mahomes doesn't have great mechanics and often throws sidearm or off the wrong foot. I've seen others over the years that have also been successful without perfect mechanics. If there's a flaw that is causing a QB to miss high all the time or doesn't allow him to accurately throw deep than it should be corrected. On the other hand if a QB consistently makes all the throws but doesn't look pretty doing it, I'm not going to mess with his mechanics.

Trying to teach a QB on the right way to throw a football is like teaching a guitarist the right way to play guitar. If he hits the right chords on time and can improvise with the best of them, why do I care about the minutiae of where his fingers are.

Can't believe Lance didn't get a single snap yesterday. Jimmy was average at best and was atrocious in the first quarter and a half.

Originally posted by 4ML:
Can't believe Lance didn't get a single snap yesterday. Jimmy was average at best and was atrocious in the first quarter and a half.

Tim K explained it well. there was no room for any mistakes in this game so Kyle went with experience over the unknown

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Agreed.. He'll remain the starter this year unless something unfortunate happens.

However, next year, we'll be giving the keys to the offense to Lance, and take it from there.

What if Jimmy clearly outplays Lance?

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Agreed.. He'll remain the starter this year unless something unfortunate happens.

However, next year, we'll be giving the keys to the offense to Lance, and take it from there.

What if Jimmy clearly outplays Lance?

You think there's a scenario where Jimmy and Lance are both on the team next year and they "compete" for the starter?

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Agreed.. He'll remain the starter this year unless something unfortunate happens.

However, next year, we'll be giving the keys to the offense to Lance, and take it from there.

What if Jimmy clearly outplays Lance?

When would he outplay Trey?

Folks this is where yall need to come to grips with reality, and not some feel good story.

We traded alot for Trey. The reason being so because Kyle felt he needed to move on from Jimmy (because of previous play). The same thing happened in 2011, when the team used a 2nd RD pick for Kap...after Alex's 2010 season... heck they let Alex go on a free agent tour.. yall remember those pics of Alex in Miami? They basically signed him to 1 year deals after that. Then unfortunately for Alex, he was another example of something like this happening.....when Chiefs drafted Pat Mahomes in the 1st round....after Alex's play the previous years.

It doesn't matter how well said player plays after the fact... once a decision is made, the team is most likely moving on... even if the Starting QB plays well, like Alex did in 2012 and with the Chiefs.

The thing with Jimmy is, we gave up WAAAAY for more for Lance, than those 2011 9ers or 2017 Chiefs did for Kap or Mahomes.

Even if Jimmy plays at an MVP level this year (which I think his own extreme fans will admit won't happen).. even if that happens... the 9ers FO will not get the same type of trade deal for Lance, that they spent. And I've never seen seen a team trade away someone like that, especially without getting real game looks at them.

The only way I see Jimmy start for us next year, is if he has an MVP year.. we win the Super Bowl... or lose sometime deep in the playoffs because of other reasons and not Jimmy.... AND Trey scares the s**t out of Kyle in practices all year, and has bad OTAs and training camp and preseason next year.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Agreed.. He'll remain the starter this year unless something unfortunate happens.

However, next year, we'll be giving the keys to the offense to Lance, and take it from there.

What if Jimmy clearly outplays Lance?

You think there's a scenario where Jimmy and Lance are both on the team next year and they "compete" for the starter?

Jed has specifically said he's ok paying Jimmy's salary for the 2022 season. so there's been discussions about Jimmy still being on the roster past this season.

if the Niners win the Super Bowl and Jimmy was instrumental in the run, it'll be very very hard to just trade him or let him walk.

Originally posted by napo:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Agreed.. He'll remain the starter this year unless something unfortunate happens.

However, next year, we'll be giving the keys to the offense to Lance, and take it from there.

What if Jimmy clearly outplays Lance?

Impossible, the immobile Jimmy was only a 2nd round pick, can't outplay a guy who cost us 3 first round picks

Originally posted by boast:
Jed has specifically said he's ok paying Jimmy's salary for the 2022 season. so there's been discussions about Jimmy still being on the roster past this season.

if the Niners win the Super Bowl and Jimmy was instrumental in the run, it'll be very very hard to just trade him or let him walk.

i think in that case we trade him and run with Lance

the only reason imo that we should keep Jimmy next year is if he is an MVP canidate. Trading him and recouping some draft picks and saving 20+mil/year in cap space can be huge

Originally posted by boast:
Jed has specifically said he's ok paying Jimmy's salary for the 2022 season. so there's been discussions about Jimmy still being on the roster past this season.

if the Niners win the Super Bowl and Jimmy was instrumental in the run, it'll be very very hard to just trade him or let him walk.

It has nothing to do with Jed being okay with paying a player…it's how you spread that cap space out and who needs that cash long-term. Do we think Bosa/Deebo are gonna show up without a new contract after this yr? How about our secondary?

one of the greatest aspects of having a young QB starting is taking advantage of that cap space to surround them with great talent…oh and we don't have and 1sts for a couple yrs on top of it

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
Jed has specifically said he's ok paying Jimmy's salary for the 2022 season. so there's been discussions about Jimmy still being on the roster past this season.

if the Niners win the Super Bowl and Jimmy was instrumental in the run, it'll be very very hard to just trade him or let him walk.

It has nothing to do with Jed being okay with paying a player…it's how you spread that cap space out and who needs that cash long-term. Do we think Bosa/Deebo are gonna show up without a new contract after this yr? How about our secondary?

one of the greatest aspects of having a young QB starting is taking advantage of that cap space to surround them with great talent…oh and we don't have and 1sts for a couple yrs on top of it

That's my main issue with people who want Jimmy here long term.

Sitting a #3 overall rookie for 2/5 years on his rookie deal CANT give us the best chance to win the Super Bowl. The recent trend after the rookie wage scale is to either have Tom Brady or a QB on his rookie deal. You're basically eliminating yourself by keeping Jimmy G on the roster with his contract. And that doesn't mean Jimmy sucks or he wouldn't be capable of playing well… it just means statistically you're probably not going to have the roster you need to win it all.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
It has nothing to do with Jed being okay with paying a player…it's how you spread that cap space out and who needs that cash long-term. Do we think Bosa/Deebo are gonna show up without a new contract after this yr? How about our secondary?

one of the greatest aspects of having a young QB starting is taking advantage of that cap space to surround them with great talent…oh and we don't have and 1sts for a couple yrs on top of it

Lol NY, isn't this starting to look awfully similar to the 2020 season/beginning of the off-season when all the Jimmy truthers were so sure he was our FQB, wasn't getting replaced, etc etc etc and yet here we are in his replacements thread. 2 games into this season and here we go again, even after everything that happened and literally with Lance on the roster, these guys still think Jimmy is it and will be here. I've said this same exact thing. Some guys will be very disappointed, I'm still not even so sure that Jimmy doesn't get replaced THIS season due to inconsistent play or of course injury

Originally posted by NYniner85

It has nothing to do with Jed being okay with paying a player…it's how you spread that cap space out and who needs that cash long-term. Do we think Bosa/Deebo are gonna show up without a new contract after this yr? How about our secondary?

one of the greatest aspects of having a young QB starting is taking advantage of that cap space to surround them with great talent…oh and we don't have and 1sts for a couple yrs on top of it

Is your name in real life Grant?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by boast:
Jed has specifically said he's ok paying Jimmy's salary for the 2022 season. so there's been discussions about Jimmy still being on the roster past this season.

if the Niners win the Super Bowl and Jimmy was instrumental in the run, it'll be very very hard to just trade him or let him walk.

It has nothing to do with Jed being okay with paying a player…it's how you spread that cap space out and who needs that cash long-term. Do we think Bosa/Deebo are gonna show up without a new contract after this yr? How about our secondary?

one of the greatest aspects of having a young QB starting is taking advantage of that cap space to surround them with great talent…oh and we don't have and 1sts for a couple yrs on top of it

i'm just saying, the Niners would be stupid to jettison their QB if he's one of the main reasons the team wins the SB this year. i brought up Jed's comment because it seems that scenario has been discussed and i don't think the team is that stupid.