Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

how about the coaches philosophy on holding back a rookie as evidence ?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

how about the coaches philosophy on holding back a rookie as evidence ?

Thats not evidence.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

how about the coaches philosophy on holding back a rookie as evidence ?

Thats not evidence.

Sure it is.. we have to wait until his rookie season is over to find out, but Kyle sees it as beneficial to Lance

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Forget the fans for a moment. What makes you think Shanahan is willing to trade wins for development?

The moment he spent 3 1st rd picks on a 20 yr old QB with 300 passing attempts.

and yes fans will have to accept it…that's part of the process.

So why isn't Trey starting?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

how about the coaches philosophy on holding back a rookie as evidence ?

Thats not evidence.

Sure it is.. we have to wait until his rookie season is over to find out, but Kyle sees it as beneficial to Lance

No it isnt. It's one coaching staff's plan/opinion. That would be like saying Jim Mora started Peyton Manning as a rookie, so his philosophy of not holding back a rookie is evidence.

Again, there is zero evidence of either side of the debate because the opposite would have to not be true. And since (regardless of side), the other side doesnt get a chance to materialize, you cant say that the opposite wouldnt have turned out the same way.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
18 to 24 month baking is fine if he develops into a composed decisive multi processing pocket passer. No problem at all waiting a couple years for the trey lance era. Not sure why all the hoo ha.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I doubt that but if Kyle was willing to sacrifice wins for starter experience he hasn't shown it thus far.

Originally posted by ritz126:
Peyton manning was a complete prospect that lacked nfl reps

this isnt the case with Lance he doesn't just need nfl reps he needs to work on his fundamentals

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

how about the coaches philosophy on holding back a rookie as evidence ?

Thats not evidence.

Sure it is.. we have to wait until his rookie season is over to find out, but Kyle sees it as beneficial to Lance

No it isnt. It's one coaching staff's plan/opinion. That would be like saying Jim Mora started Peyton Manning as a rookie, so his philosophy of not holding back a rookie is evidence.

Again, there is zero evidence of either side of the debate because the opposite would have to not be true. And since (regardless of side), the other side doesnt get a chance to materialize, you cant say that the opposite wouldnt have turned out the same way.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


You posted many times that Lance was more pro ready than Jones. You said he operated out of a pro ready offense, and he would be ready to go, even more so than Jones. That clearly isn't the case,, and now you're backpedaling. Don't make me go back looking for your posts

Originally posted by ritz126:
Peyton manning was a complete prospect that lacked nfl reps

this isnt the case with Lance he doesn't just need nfl reps he needs to work on his fundamentals

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by dhp318:
Glad you've finally come to this conclusion too

Why? Two of the 5 first round picks by this regime were complete busts. Nothing's guaranteed. This team is locked and loaded and ready to compete for 6. No one has the patience to deal with a Zack Wilson-type game every now and then. These guys won't be good until next season. There's no definitive evidence that playing a rookie season makes you a better QB than sitting for a year and learning while getting some spot duty.

Correct. Just like there is no definitive evidence that sitting your rookie season makes you a better QB than playing a rookie season.

how about the coaches philosophy on holding back a rookie as evidence ?

Thats not evidence.

Sure it is.. we have to wait until his rookie season is over to find out, but Kyle sees it as beneficial to Lance

No it isnt. It's one coaching staff's plan/opinion. That would be like saying Jim Mora started Peyton Manning as a rookie, so his philosophy of not holding back a rookie is evidence.

Again, there is zero evidence of either side of the debate because the opposite would have to not be true. And since (regardless of side), the other side doesnt get a chance to materialize, you cant say that the opposite wouldnt have turned out the same way.

Jim Mora.. not a great example of a great offensive coach

Kyle chose to hold him back.. thats all you need to know on how he feels on whats the best way. same with Andy Reid

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by ritz126:
Peyton manning was a complete prospect that lacked nfl reps

this isnt the case with Lance he doesn't just need nfl reps he needs to work on his fundamentals

Josh Allen's fundamentals were worse then Lance's and he started, learned, and now is one of the highest paid QBs in the league.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Player development improves the most by playing…this team accepted the idea that a loss or two might happen if he plays….that's part of the process and fans need to be okay with it

oh that explains all the physically talented raw players who started early dominating now