Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
to be honest, I just want to see if hes a bust or not so we can move on lol

We all want to see him play, but I think Kyle is doing it the right way. Just got to be patient.

Lance is much more physically gifted than Jimmy, that's for sure. But the QB position is more mental than physical, so I'm ok with being patient with Lance.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
to be honest, I just want to see if hes a bust or not so we can move on lol

We all want to see him play, but I think Kyle is doing it the right way. Just got to be patient.

He won't be starting until after JGs current contract expires. They will be re-evaluating things then and not before while JG is healthy. Trey has all the time in the world to learn this system and gain confidence and more skill.

Originally posted by Goatie:
He won't be starting until after JGs current contract expires. They will be re-evaluating things then and not before while JG is healthy. Trey has all the time in the world to learn this system and gain confidence and more skill.

No he will be the starting next yr…by then he will have watched a stupid amount of film and got the playbook figured out (IMO he's already got a good grip of it) At that point you gonna use all that and go on the field to improve. Sitting for multiple yrs isn't gonna make him magically better…you have to play football to get better at football, same as a lot of s**t in life.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
This guy has one year of collegiate D2 experience. He's a rookie. We have Jimmy

He was drafted to watch and learn and to get ready once his number is called

Just like Mahomes before him

Mahomes is more the exception then the norm…people gotta realize this.

his skill set is what got him a MVP, not sitting for a yr.

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
to be honest, I just want to see if hes a bust or not so we can move on lol

We all want to see him play, but I think Kyle is doing it the right way. Just got to be patient.

He won't be starting until after JGs current contract expires. They will be re-evaluating things then and not before while JG is healthy. Trey has all the time in the world to learn this system and gain confidence and more skill.

Maybe if he wins the SB or has close to an All pro year I could see him playing out his final year.

Packers had trouble with W eating Jameis Winston's mobility against the Saints. Unleash Lance !!!

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Maybe if he wins the SB or has close to an All pro year I could see him playing out his final year.

That's about it…I still see them trying to recoup lost picks by trading him. They need that cap space. Deebo/Bosa are gonna want to get paid. We have no secondary plus just upgrading in general.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Maybe if he wins the SB or has close to an All pro year I could see him playing out his final year.

That's about it…I still see them trying to recoup lost picks by trading him. They need that cap space. Deebo/Bosa are gonna want to get paid. We have no secondary plus just upgrading in general.

Really tough to think Jimmy will be here after this year no matter what happens. There's always a chance he can stay.. but I see it as Jimmy's last ride and going to enjoy it if he can keep us in the hunt

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Maybe if he wins the SB or has close to an All pro year I could see him playing out his final year.

That's about it…I still see them trying to recoup lost picks by trading him. They need that cap space. Deebo/Bosa are gonna want to get paid. We have no secondary plus just upgrading in general.

I'm not too worried about extensions, they will get done. Back load the contracts, restructure later, Parag's got this

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Really tough to think Jimmy will be here after this year no matter what happens. There's always a chance he can stay.. but I see it as Jimmy's last ride and going to enjoy it if he can keep us in the hunt

Same, I think it's a pretty logical thing. They might sign a vet guy on the cheap as a good backup in 2022.

Too many other needs for the long-team and above all it's about getting Lance going. Fans gotta realize that's part of the process. I'll still be shocked if Lance doesn't play at some point this yr.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
I'm not too worried about extensions, they will get done. Back load the contracts, restructure later, Parag's got this

as it currently stands they have the 7th lowest cap space in the NFL for 2022….just getting Jimmy off the books turns then into a top 15 team in available cap space. They don't have to use all that in 2022 either, leftover cap space from that freed up revenue can be used for those backloaded deals too.

im sure everything will get done that they want done, the chances of him here in 2022 IMO is less then 10%

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
to be honest, I just want to see if hes a bust or not so we can move on lol

We all want to see him play, but I think Kyle is doing it the right way. Just got to be patient.

Lance is much more physically gifted than Jimmy, that's for sure. But the QB position is more mental than physical, so I'm ok with being patient with Lance.

Very few great quarterbacks can come in as a rookie and do well(Manning, Marino,Elway, maybe Russ Wilson). Most end up on the worst teams and have no choice to get thrown out there to try to give fans hope.

We have the luxury of letting him learn and spot play just like Mahomes, Rodgers, and Montana.

Jimmy will probably break down at some point this year, so Lance will get his chance.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Very few great quarterbacks can come in as a rookie and do well(Manning, Marino,Elway, maybe Russ Wilson). Most end up on the worst teams and have no choice to get thrown out there to try to give fans hope.

We have the luxury of letting him learn and spot play just like Mahomes, Rodgers, and Montana.

Jimmy will probably break down at some point this year, so Lance will get his chance.

See I still don't get the they don't have a choice but to play them? If the best possible way for a QB to be successful was to sit them for a yr, every single team would do that…even the bad ones.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Very few great quarterbacks can come in as a rookie and do well(Manning, Marino,Elway, maybe Russ Wilson). Most end up on the worst teams and have no choice to get thrown out there to try to give fans hope.

We have the luxury of letting him learn and spot play just like Mahomes, Rodgers, and Montana.

Jimmy will probably break down at some point this year, so Lance will get his chance.

See I still don't get the they don't have a choice but to play them? If the best possible way for a QB to be successful was to sit them for a yr, every single team would do that…even the bad ones.

If a team isn't going to win more games by starting someone else, it is easy to decide to develop a guy by fire with the justification that he gives the team the best chance to win.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Very few great quarterbacks can come in as a rookie and do well(Manning, Marino,Elway, maybe Russ Wilson). Most end up on the worst teams and have no choice to get thrown out there to try to give fans hope.

We have the luxury of letting him learn and spot play just like Mahomes, Rodgers, and Montana.

Jimmy will probably break down at some point this year, so Lance will get his chance.

See I still don't get the they don't have a choice but to play them? If the best possible way for a QB to be successful was to sit them for a yr, every single team would do that…even the bad ones.

Much harder to keep a guy on the bench when the team sucks than to store him.

Montana was probably the only exception to the rule (maybe...DeBerg wasn't bad), but typically unless there's a proper starter in place it doesn't happen.

If we drafted Mahomes, he would have played just like Beathard did that season. If Favre left Green Bay within those first three seasons of Rodgers' career, Rodgers would have seen the field.

Big Ben replaced garbage. Eli replaced an out of place Kurt Warner (midway through the season).

Wilson IMO had an amazing situation from a pure defense/RB scenario, but very limited pitch count those first few years. How many teams can afford to do that now?

The low pitch count is how you play a rookie. Kyle could theoretically do that, but no need to with Jimmy.

Trey might be on a pitch count when he finally does start. Wouldn't surprise me, and that's likely the best scenario.

With Lawrence and Zachary Wilson struggling, suddenly it doesn't seem like a terrible idea to sit our boy.

There are always exceptions to the rule (i.e. a rookie that does better starting than sitting), but normally better to give them an additional year(s) of experience to acclimate to the mental aspects of the game on and off the field. Then in that rookie season they will get their first NFL snaps under low pressure situations (ideally), and it takes pressure off.

By year 2, 3, they'll be far more ready mentally for the game. Over time, the reps they get will offset the inexperience. Ideally, the first 16 games in a QB's career would be better a year or two after being drafted than 9 months after.

Garoppolo is another beneficiary of this. His first NFL snaps were in a blowout loss to KC where he got the only TD for the Patriots, then he gets his first start to supplant a suspended Brady (less pressure because not true starter). Goes to SF on a terrible team, no pressure......

Say what you want about Garoppolo but he earned a franchise contract correctly, and I think if he never suffered the ACL would've been on a better track than he is now.

Answer this:

How good would a rookie Garoppolo have been like in 2014 starting in lieu of Brady? The year they beat the Hawks on a last second miracle.