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Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread
- Joecool
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- NYniner85
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I'm not gonna lie. I talk to a lot of offensive coaches in college. Yal may need to take a trip to Fargo, ND to realize how you can merge pro-style and a new age offense & just how much you can teach young people if you are committed to development.
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- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by Niners99:
lol @ RGIII petitioning to get signed by the Niners to be Lance's mentor. GTFOH.
lol His advice to Lance-- go to Jed and complain about Shanny not playing him in the pocket so he won't get injured.
- thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm not gonna lie. I talk to a lot of offensive coaches in college. Yal may need to take a trip to Fargo, ND to realize how you can merge pro-style and a new age offense & just how much you can teach young people if you are committed to development.
— quincy_avery (@Quincy_Avery) May 3, 2021
NDS with two top3 picks at QB in the last six years. Not as good as Oklahoma, but very impressive for an FCS school.
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- NYniner85
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by krizay:
I think his accuracy concerns are underblown. I literally just went back and rewatched 4 of his games on youtube and man! I still don't see how he was the pick over Fields if they wanted a dual threat. For all the talk of him running bootlegs and stuff. His ball placement on those boots rarely leads to YAC to wide open guys. The best thing about his deep balls is he underthrows them to get pass interference.
I tried finding the positive in this pick and I just don't see how he was picked over the other 2. Nothing about his passing suggests he should have been a top 5 pick.
I think it was the mental stuff (Fields vs Lance). I think Fields goes through his progressions and has a great football IQ, I just think Lance is better. He's just a faster processor overall and you know how much I love me some Fields.
While not having a s**t ton of reps is a bummer, it also means he doesn't have a bunch of bad habits ingrained into him as well. You could just see the improvements in his mechanics over the past 5+ months (it was impressive) That WILL improve his overall accuracy. His footwork looked amazing from everything we've seen and more reps will make it more consistent. I actually think he's got a better base (starting point) then Allen or Mahomes when they came out of college.
We complain about "accuracy" in the same fashion that people complained about Watson/Herbert's "accuracy issues" coming out of college just as well. Lance is younger then them. IMO If Lance stayed in school he would have been the #1 pick in 2022. SF just gets to work with him a yr earlier.
Kid's film is that of a 19 yr old and overall it's pretty darn impressive, now get him in SF with Kyle and watch the improvement...he's still a pup but has elite traits. This is a long-term investment and I love it![]()
I think the fact that Trey is 2-3 years younger than Fields made the biggest difference. The kid is very mature for a 19 year old and already has a Pro Style foundation. Not often to NFL coaches get a chance to mold a 19 year-old QB that hasn't been "corrupted" by the college gimmicks.
Peter King article (good read), Kyle was obsessing about what he could do with this type of QB to the point where he wasn't able to sleep.
We are in a good place. We have a legit NFL starting QB in Jimmy and Kyle gets to mold a bright talent.
He's not 19. He'll be 21 on Sunday.
His film was from a 19 yr old.
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
The order that Jones, Fields, and Lance will see the field first.
Jones
Fields
Lance
If Jones wins a Superbowl with New England before Lance with the 49ers, both Lynch and Shanahan need to be escorted out of the Santa Clara building by security, and have all their belongings tossed in the street.
And if Jones doesn't beat out Cam lol?
I could careless who sees the field first, I care about who's better 2/3 yrs from now.
- 49ersRing
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I'm not gonna lie. I talk to a lot of offensive coaches in college. Yal may need to take a trip to Fargo, ND to realize how you can merge pro-style and a new age offense & just how much you can teach young people if you are committed to development.
— quincy_avery (@Quincy_Avery) May 3, 2021
NDS with two top3 picks at QB in the last six years. Not as good as Oklahoma, but very impressive for an FCS school.
It's impressive for an FCS school that their last 3 starting QBs were all drafted (2 in the top 3).
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by Joecool:
One reason I ended up hoping for Lance over Fields is that Lance's build seems thicker and sturdier to be able to absorb NFL defenses better.
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Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Just got finished watching every play this guy made in college. Here's why this guy will elevate this offense.
- His feel for the pocket is top notch. The guy naturally feels pressure and is extremely elusive in the pocket.
- On plays that aren't designed runs, Trey always looks to pass first. I saw multiple plays where the play was dead and done, but he Russel Wilsoned to huge chunk plays or touch downs.
- His deep ball is impeccable. It's too bad he was throwing to scrubs like 5'7 Phoenix Sproles.
- Kyle's play action will be even more lethal now because you have to account for Trey being able to pull it down and run.
- Cannon arm allows him to throw outs and across the grain with ease. We'll see a lot of plays where Kittle or Juice slips to the opposite site and Trey flicks it to them for a TD or huge chunk yards.
- ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by Joecool:
One reason I ended up hoping for Lance over Fields is that Lance's build seems thicker and sturdier to be able to absorb NFL defenses better.
True, we had enough injuries in the QB position.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
It will be nice to have a QB that will be able to throw to just about anywhere under 60 yards from anywhere on the field.
To know that Kyle was obsessing over how to utilize Lance makes me super pumped.
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
The order that Jones, Fields, and Lance will see the field first.
Jones
Fields
Lance
If Jones wins a Superbowl with New England before Lance with the 49ers, both Lynch and Shanahan need to be escorted out of the Santa Clara building by security, and have all their belongings tossed in the street.
Mitch Trubisky saw the field before Mahomes did. Does that mean the Bears made the right choice?
What if Jones wins his only SB this year but Lance wins several over the course of his career?
Such a weird stat to hang your hat on.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
I think the fact that Trey is 2-3 years younger than Fields made the biggest difference. The kid is very mature for a 19 year old and already has a Pro Style foundation. Not often to NFL coaches get a chance to mold a 19 year-old QB that hasn't been "corrupted" by the college gimmicks.
Peter King article (good read), Kyle was obsessing about what he could do with this type of QB to the point where he wasn't able to sleep.
We are in a good place. We have a legit NFL starting QB in Jimmy and Kyle gets to mold a bright talent.
1 year and 4 days.
I doubt the age played a factor. I think they simply felt there was less to teach with Lance than FIelds. I was more in favor of Fields because IMO it's easier to teach someone how to run a pro offense vs how to be more accurate but I'll trust our guys on this one.
I am definitely pumped we have a guy who has the full package. I think the draft shows we're ready to get back to old school football but with a new school breed of QB to take advantage.
If you think about it with the way the NFL is such a heavy pass league you have a lot more pass stopping defenses. Smaller, faster players who can cover well.
Would be a damn shame if we had an offense who could run all over these smaller dudes. Our receivers are all YAC masters and now we added a QB who needs to be accounted for in the run game as well, and a QB who can attack all areas of the field.
Kyle is going to have some fun.