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May 3, 2021 at 10:03 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Just got finished watching every play this guy made in college. Here's why this guy will elevate this offense.

  1. His feel for the pocket is top notch. The guy naturally feels pressure and is extremely elusive in the pocket.
  2. On plays that aren't designed runs, Trey always looks to pass first. I saw multiple plays where the play was dead and done, but he Russel Wilsoned to huge chunk plays or touch downs.
  3. His deep ball is impeccable. It's too bad he was throwing to scrubs like 5'7 Phoenix Sproles.
  4. Kyle's play action will be even more lethal now because you have to account for Trey being able to pull it down and run.
  5. Cannon arm allows him to throw outs and across the grain with ease. We'll see a lot of plays where Kittle or Juice slips to the opposite site and Trey flicks it to them for a TD or huge chunk yards.


I. CAN'T. WAIT.

Future seems bright if all works out.
May 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM
Damn, the Mac Jones thread has a thousand more pages than this one...
May 3, 2021 at 10:06 AM
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
I think the fact that Trey is 2-3 years younger than Fields made the biggest difference. The kid is very mature for a 19 year old and already has a Pro Style foundation. Not often to NFL coaches get a chance to mold a 19 year-old QB that hasn't been "corrupted" by the college gimmicks.

Peter King article (good read), Kyle was obsessing about what he could do with this type of QB to the point where he wasn't able to sleep.

We are in a good place. We have a legit NFL starting QB in Jimmy and Kyle gets to mold a bright talent.

1 year and 4 days.

I doubt the age played a factor. I think they simply felt there was less to teach with Lance than FIelds. I was more in favor of Fields because IMO it's easier to teach someone how to run a pro offense vs how to be more accurate but I'll trust our guys on this one.

I am definitely pumped we have a guy who has the full package. I think the draft shows we're ready to get back to old school football but with a new school breed of QB to take advantage.

If you think about it with the way the NFL is such a heavy pass league you have a lot more pass stopping defenses. Smaller, faster players who can cover well.

Would be a damn shame if we had an offense who could run all over these smaller dudes. Our receivers are all YAC masters and now we added a QB who needs to be accounted for in the run game as well, and a QB who can attack all areas of the field.

Kyle is going to have some fun.

I don't think the accuracy is a concern as long as his footwork is sound. Fields seems to have the breakaway speed but that is not a good trait to have as a QB. You want your QB to be mobile/fast, but every QB should run controlled rather than Olympic style full speed. This is mainly because you want them to always be in a position to throw.
[ Edited by Joecool on May 3, 2021 at 10:06 AM ]
May 3, 2021 at 10:07 AM
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
How soon/When can Shanahan start working with Trey Lance?
Lance already has an iPad with the playbook and met with Scangarello already who will give him homework. John Beck likely has that homework as well and will be working with Lance, I'm sure of.

And if he's smart, if there's a Camp Jimmy 2.0, I hope Trey shows up to start developing chemistry and a rapport with the receiving corps.
[ Edited by BleedsRedNGold on May 3, 2021 at 10:07 AM ]
May 3, 2021 at 10:11 AM
Couldn't be more pleased that Trey Lance will be wearing Red and Gold.
May 3, 2021 at 10:19 AM
May 3, 2021 at 10:28 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Fascinating if true. Did it come directly from Shannhan or Lynch or is this more media nonsense?
May 3, 2021 at 10:30 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Just got finished watching every play this guy made in college. Here's why this guy will elevate this offense.

  1. His feel for the pocket is top notch. The guy naturally feels pressure and is extremely elusive in the pocket.
  2. On plays that aren't designed runs, Trey always looks to pass first. I saw multiple plays where the play was dead and done, but he Russel Wilsoned to huge chunk plays or touch downs.
  3. His deep ball is impeccable. It's too bad he was throwing to scrubs like 5'7 Phoenix Sproles.
  4. Kyle's play action will be even more lethal now because you have to account for Trey being able to pull it down and run.
  5. Cannon arm allows him to throw outs and across the grain with ease. We'll see a lot of plays where Kittle or Juice slips to the opposite site and Trey flicks it to them for a TD or huge chunk yards.


You know that the NFC west teams and league as hole were hoping for MacDonalds. This guy is Roy Hobbs all over again. A natural. Going to be a disaster for defenses to play Kyle. D's can't account for flick 20-50 yarders or a run from a fast qb fb or a flip to Sermon on the same play. Holy fluck. Not just as a diehard 49ers fan. Going to be scary. Especially with a really good Oline.
May 3, 2021 at 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

The only 'pro ready' aspect that Mac/Fields has over Lance is how they have played on the biggest of college football stages. As far as what was asked out of the QB position on the field, what North Dakota St did was the closest to resembling an NFL offense (out of those three QB prospects).
May 3, 2021 at 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Fascinating if true. Did it come directly from Shannhan or Lynch or is this more media nonsense?

makes sense, he's familiar with all our concepts and comfortable playing under center. His mechanics aren't broken and have vastly improved from his tape to now (never worked with QB coaches before, big difference in his mechanics over the past 6 months). i'm not worried about his accuracy.
May 3, 2021 at 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Fascinating if true. Did it come directly from Shannhan or Lynch or is this more media nonsense?

May 3, 2021 at 10:33 AM
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

The only 'pro ready' aspect that Mac/Fields has over Lance is how they have played on the biggest of college football stages. As far as what was asked out of the QB position on the field, what North Dakota St did was the closest to resembling an NFL offense (out of those three QB prospects).

And that Trey's head is amazing. He was walking up to the line at 19 like he was thirty
May 3, 2021 at 10:37 AM
When teams evaluated Lance, there were 3 things that were common in their appraisal. One was he only played a few games and needs more time. Two was that he has a very high ceiling. Three was he has a high football IQ. I understand the first two but I'm curious about the third one.

Can anyone tell me how they determine a player's football IQ. I'm sure they watch tapes but are there questions they ask during the interview that are specific like "what would you do in this situation or that situation" or is it more of a general feel they get when talking football? Do they show him some plays and ask him what he sees? It's probably different with each team but I'm sure there are some common things as well. I know they give them that stupid test but that doesn't tell them about their football IQ.
May 3, 2021 at 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
When teams evaluated Lance, there were 3 things that were common in their appraisal. One was he only played a few games and needs more time. Two was that he has a very high ceiling. Three was he has a high football IQ. I understand the first two but I'm curious about the third one.

Can anyone tell me how they determine a player's football IQ. I'm sure they watch tapes but are there questions they ask during the interview that are specific like "what would you do in this situation or that situation" or is it more of a general feel they get when talking football? Do they show him some plays and ask him what he sees? It's probably different with each team but I'm sure there are some common things as well. I know they give them that stupid test but that doesn't tell them about their football IQ.

I think it's exactly what you said. Whiteboard sessions help a team determine whether a QB understands play concepts.
May 3, 2021 at 10:43 AM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
When teams evaluated Lance, there were 3 things that were common in their appraisal. One was he only played a few games and needs more time. Two was that he has a very high ceiling. Three was he has a high football IQ. I understand the first two but I'm curious about the third one.

Can anyone tell me how they determine a player's football IQ. I'm sure they watch tapes but are there questions they ask during the interview that are specific like "what would you do in this situation or that situation" or is it more of a general feel they get when talking football? Do they show him some plays and ask him what he sees? It's probably different with each team but I'm sure there are some common things as well. I know they give them that stupid test but that doesn't tell them about their football IQ.

I'm curious about this too.

I believe that the responsibilities that NDSU gave Lance pre-snap are some of the hard evidence that he has high football IQ. Pre-snap adjustments and recognition are one of the things that I think made Peyton Manning very special, and he was doing that at perhaps the highest level the NFL has ever seen.
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