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May 3, 2021 at 4:51 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Hard to believe.
He looked really good mechanics-wise in his second pro day.

Oh he looked real good

There are a ton of interviews from the QB coaches that have worked with Lance recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WE0ZXxEqR4

This is one from McEvoy and Hammer that confirms Lance never got exposed to ANY formal QB training until a few months ago.

You can see a dramatic change from his game film to the 2nd pro day.

He already fixed the elongated motion and the dip before passing
In his 1st pro day he had some footwork issues like not getting enough depth on his drop back (3 yards instead of 5)
In his 2nd pro day he had already fixed it and was getting a good 5 yards of depth on his drop back

I think we will be pleasantly surprised at how much progress he has made when he hits the field
May 3, 2021 at 4:54 PM
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
you just know kyle got hard watching this


My penis is tingling a little bit.

May 3, 2021 at 4:55 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:



The sky is the ceiling.

that's a pretty high ceiling!
May 3, 2021 at 5:00 PM
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
What does that matter?

You can watch Kap in college and watch Lance and see what they were asked to do and clearly see they are not the same player.

I'll bet money if he was white you wouldn't say Kap at all...it's a lazy stale comp.

Absolutely do not bring that BS white vs black b******t in here. Leave that out of sports.

And his body type height speed and frame does look like kaep. Between the ears remains to be seen but he absolutely has the same build

Lol they're nothing alike though. Comparing two Black players who are nothing alike other than the fact that they're Black is bringing race into sports.
May 3, 2021 at 5:05 PM
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
His mechanics and accuracy will be really interesting to see if he plays this year. Kyle has said he's not going to scrutinize throwing motion during the season, as those mechanics are kind of like micro-adjustments that are worked on in the offseason. Instead, he'll just focus on their footwork and making sure the guy is in correct position.

But yeah, while Lance hasn't gotten the reps and weekly practices last season, he spent the time studying NFL offenses and working on mechanics.


Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Gotta love to hear that.

Kyle is the QB guru in which Harbaugh was. Harbaugh hasn't done anything QB-developent since Luck, and now I think that was all David shaw. I go back to Nick. If Kyle can make Nick the 2nd overall in passing yardage in NFL history over the first 16 games of anybodys career-- just behind Patrick. imagine what he can do with a guy a bit faster and a bit stronger than Nick!
May 3, 2021 at 5:09 PM
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Absolutely do not bring that BS white vs black b******t in here. Leave that out of sports.

And his body type height speed and frame does look like kaep. Between the ears remains to be seen but he absolutely has the same build

Oh I'll bring it up...again if he was white there wouldn't be a single Kap comp. they don't play the position the same at all. It's a piss poor comp.

Why not Wentz? Why not Herbert? Why not Tannehill?

Most comps I've seen from actual analysts have been Josh Allen. Hoping those on this board comparing him to Kaep are a result of lazy ignorance due to the fact he is such a strong runner. Really hope it's not about race.

Oh I think it's just a lazy stereotype.
May 3, 2021 at 5:12 PM
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:



The sky is the ceiling.

the Sky is Zer0
May 3, 2021 at 5:14 PM
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Trade trey lance + somthing else for Aaron Rodgers.

if he's on the market we absolutely must do all we can to get him



Stop. Rodgers is old, disgruntled, and has done nothing but choke in the playoffs for the last decade.
May 3, 2021 at 5:14 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Jubwub88:
Absolutely do not bring that BS white vs black b******t in here. Leave that out of sports.

And his body type height speed and frame does look like kaep. Between the ears remains to be seen but he absolutely has the same build

Oh I'll bring it up...again if he was white there wouldn't be a single Kap comp. they don't play the position the same at all. It's a piss poor comp.

Why not Wentz? Why not Herbert? Why not Tannehill?

Maybe it's because he was the only other dual threat qb the niners have ever had with a strong arm? Probably normal to compare him with a familiar qb. Just a thought...
May 3, 2021 at 5:15 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by crusher49er:
Originally posted by Midbay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Fascinating if true. Did it come directly from Shannhan or Lynch or is this more media nonsense?

makes sense, he's familiar with all our concepts and comfortable playing under center. His mechanics aren't broken and have vastly improved from his tape to now (never worked with QB coaches before, big difference in his mechanics over the past 6 months). i'm not worried about his accuracy.
Hard to believe.
He looked really good mechanics-wise in his second pro day.

His mechanics and accuracy will be really interesting to see if he plays this year. Kyle has said he's not going to scrutinize throwing motion during the season, as those mechanics are kind of like micro-adjustments that are worked on in the offseason. Instead, he'll just focus on their footwork and making sure the guy is in correct position.

But yeah, while Lance hasn't gotten the reps and weekly practices last season, he spent the time studying NFL offenses and working on mechanics.

I liked the answer Kyle gave when a reporter brought up Lance's accuracy. How it's something that is worked on from January to April, when the QB seeks out coaching on his own. I think Lance's personality helps put any concerns at ease. Meaning Kyle thinks Lance is the type of guy that will work January to April to refine mechanics. Kyle seems to have fallen in love with Lance the person just as much as Lance the QB.

I remember Steve (one read and run) Young, and then once he was ready and took over Montana's spot, he was unstoppable. I hope Trey never develops that one read and run bad habit, it took Steve *years* to get rid of it. I suspect it came from the atrocious Tampa Bay coaching.

As for accuracy, once Steve calmed down in the pocket he was unbelievably accurate. I think Treys calm demeanor is going to help that accuracy. If Drew Brees can come back from a (I think) a rotator cuff surgery, and get back his accuracy, Trey -- fully healthy-- isn't going to have too much accuracy problems. Key is that he puts the work in like Brees did to get his accuracy.

I think putting in Trey too soon would retard his accuracy - because a lot of accuracy is just knowing the coverage, and knowing who is going to be open even before the play starts.
May 3, 2021 at 5:17 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Hard to believe.
He looked really good mechanics-wise in his second pro day.

Oh he looked real good

Yeah. That release was tight and quick. Very Quick. His footwork was different from even his first pro day too. E Changed his stance as was still throwing with good accuracy.
May 3, 2021 at 5:19 PM
May 3, 2021 at 5:21 PM
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Hard to believe.
He looked really good mechanics-wise in his second pro day.

Oh he looked real good

There are a ton of interviews from the QB coaches that have worked with Lance recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WE0ZXxEqR4

This is one from McEvoy and Hammer that confirms Lance never got exposed to ANY formal QB training until a few months ago.

You can see a dramatic change from his game film to the 2nd pro day.

He already fixed the elongated motion and the dip before passing
In his 1st pro day he had some footwork issues like not getting enough depth on his drop back (3 yards instead of 5)
In his 2nd pro day he had already fixed it and was getting a good 5 yards of depth on his drop back

I think we will be pleasantly surprised at how much progress he has made when he hits the field

Nice thanks for this!

It would have been great for him to have a full season this past yr...more reps is best case BUT these 5+ months have probably been just as valuable for him. All this time to fine tune his mechanics with a bunch of the top QB gurus.
May 3, 2021 at 5:22 PM
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Hard to believe.
He looked really good mechanics-wise in his second pro day.

Oh he looked real good

Yeah. That release was tight and quick. Very Quick. His footwork was different from even his first pro day too. E Changed his stance as was still throwing with good accuracy.

Yes sir
May 3, 2021 at 5:23 PM
Sure would be super cool if they released the entire video of his second pro day
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