Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

He's a moron - don't listen to him.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

He like the rest of us didn't know just how raw and unprepared Trey was going to be for his first start.

Is this dude taking us to get that quest for six or do I go back to sleep?

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

He like the rest of us didn't know just how raw and unprepared Trey was going to be for his first start.

I don't know how anyone that follows the Niners even remotely closely could not know that….Trey was the rawest high pick QB, I think he started 1 game in the last 300 days before starting for us. The question no one can answer is will he be a mentally strong qb who gets thrown into the fire before he's ready or will we break him?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

He's a moron - don't listen to him.

Or maybe he didn't consider the locker room and was unaware of how raw Trey was at the time? Steve Young passed the Bar. That man is smart as hell. Some 49er fans, maybe not so much.

For example, while Steve recently said we should "be patient," he also said he wants to see Trey under duress and that "I don't know that we're going to know more unless we get tested now."

In other words his most recent statement was highlighting the pros and cons of each position. But that's too complex for some 49er fans to understand.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by jonnydel:
....Turns out, I was right. That video is my most watched video ever. Over 42k views so far. The Aiyuk video - there's been a ton of talk about Aiyuk. I knew what I was seeing on film, so I presented it because it was a topic many people were interested in. Over 22k views - my 2nd most watched video this year and like 3rd or 4th all time. My game review of the Eagles? Around 7k. So, if there's a topic of general interest among fans, I'm going to speak to it from what I see. Not from a place where I have made a judgement and then argue my point - that's where the confusion may be, at least I'm hoping it is.

The poster was just trying to tell you that anytime a video -- from ANYONE -- is based on making or defeating a narrative,...it's biased.

In fact,...that's literally the definition of bias. It has zero to do with your actual content and who likes it and agrees and who doesn't.

Making, say, a 5 worst play/5 best play video is literally the definition of trying to be objective. 8 best and 2 worst wouldn't,....nor would the 2 best and 8 worst. Another attempt at objectivity would be covering scoring/turnover drives. Jus ta couple examples.

Another example,...a defense team vs. a prosecutor,....both are going to have bias in the cases they make. I mean hell,...their entire job is based around being biased. That b word doesn't imply whether they're truth tellers, liars, good, bad, etc.,...lol.

I mean,...this is a really simple premise where there's no way around it and we make it hard on here and argue about it for no reason.

As the poster said,...make whatever kind of videos you want. The only issue here is the negative connotation you are attaching to the word bias,...even though you've said from the beginning that the purpose of them was to be biased towards a case you were making.

What narratives are his videos making or trying to defeat?

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

Actually don't know if he literally said that or not. I've seen him say Trey was "awesomely raw" and that when he saw him that he wanted to see more. I never heard/seen him say definitively that he needs to be the starter. Maybe I missed it.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

He's a moron - don't listen to him.

Or maybe he didn't consider the locker room and was unaware of how raw Trey was at the time? Steve Young passed the Bar. That man is smart as hell. Some 49er fans, maybe not so much.

For example, while Steve recently said we should "be patient," he also said he wants to see Trey under duress and that "I don't know that we're going to know more unless we get tested now."

In other words his most recent statement was highlighting the pros and cons of each position. But that's too complex for some 49er fans to understand.

He's just stating the obvious - now, he saying be patient with him, after saying he should be starting.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
OK well several weeks ago Steve Young said Trey should just be the starter already and now he says the Niners need to be patient with him (which I agree). I love Steve as much as the next guy but dang, he may have been hit in the head one too many times.

He's a moron - don't listen to him.

Or maybe he didn't consider the locker room and was unaware of how raw Trey was at the time? Steve Young passed the Bar. That man is smart as hell. Some 49er fans, maybe not so much.

For example, while Steve recently said we should "be patient," he also said he wants to see Trey under duress and that "I don't know that we're going to know more unless we get tested now."

In other words his most recent statement was highlighting the pros and cons of each position. But that's too complex for some 49er fans to understand.

Yeah, every time I've read Steve's comments I see a guy thinking and speaking carefully and trying to look at/analyze the whole picture. Even Jerry Rice to in a different way and to a lesser extent.

But that goes over the head of a lot of people who only listen to/take out of something that's said what they want to and typically lined up with what they already believe.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You should go back and look at NY and I's Patrick Mahomes argument pre 2017 draft.

NY doesn't like to remember that one.

HA and I admit I'm wrong with him and Brady See unlike others I got no problem saying I was wrong...happens to everyone

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
I really don't see a huge difference in this clip, and I watched it about 30 times looking at all the little things. Jimmy has a good arm. And his release is elite. It's day and night compared to Treys.

There is a world of difference in velocity in those throws...Jimmy has a moon ball that literally goes off the screen. Lance throws a rope.



I could careless about his release at this point. Means nothing if you can't see the field well, aren't accurate, and refuse to throw it downfield. chad pennington had a quick release.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I couldn't care less about his release at this point. Means nothing if you can't see the field well, aren't accurate, and refuse to throw it downfield. chad pennington had a quick release.

FYP

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
You should go back and look at NY and I's Patrick Mahomes argument pre 2017 draft.

NY doesn't like to remember that one.

HA and I admit I'm wrong with him and Brady See unlike others I got no problem saying I was wrong...happens to everyone

Originally posted by a49erfan77:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I couldn't care less about his release at this point. Means nothing if you can't see the field well, aren't accurate, and refuse to throw it downfield. chad pennington had a quick release.

FYP

lol don't waste you time...my writing is awful, you could spend all day correcting me in here