Originally posted by YACBros85:
Trey has plenty of arch on his deep pass. Yes. Jimmy's has more height according to that video but probably takes longer to get to the target. Neither is better than the other, I'm sure, as timing with the receiver most likely plays a bigger role in those deep passes anyway.
if youre throwing to a receiver streaking downfield, throwing with an arch can allow the wr to adjust to the pass better. wilson is the best at that.
Sure having some arch is a good thing. Never said it wasn't. Like I said, Trey has plenty.
Originally posted by thl408:
"but with that comes responsibility"
lol
Yeah it does come with responsibility. It's what's best for the forum. Look at this sequence here.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
The ball his Deebo in the chest. C'mon. If that's Lance, y'all are screaming about Deebo needing to hold on to the ball.
The ball hit the defender's hand/arm..which was infront of Deebo's chest.
And no I wouldn't blame Deebo for that, if Lance threw the ball. But apparently you would/did, if Jimmy threw it.
I would blame Deebo if Lance threw it. Just like I blamed Aiyuk for not getting more separation when Lance threw it. Not sure why you're hellbent on trying to prove something about me. You've had issues with me for years and I still don't get where it all started. Seems odd.
Don't let them get to you jonnydel. It is just their way of showing you that you know more about football then they ever will.
Jonny won't admit to facts, and one of his cult members (instead of acknowledging what actually happen) attacks the person who was telling the truth. How is that good for the forum? I said it earlier, he has the power to sway opinion. His videos do. People trust him, because he knows his s**t. So imo he has the responsibility to be honest and consistent.
Take a look at what Jonny says at 9:05 of his Packers video.
He basically says don't trust what you see with your eyes, what other pundits say!... you, my viewers, are the smartest of all! Follow me my pretties.
As Donald Trump once said, "I LOVE THE UNEDUCATED!" Kissing up to his base, just to control their view of reality later.
Yes I'm half joking with all this, but there is some truth to it.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
if youre throwing to a receiver streaking downfield, throwing with an arch can allow the wr to adjust to the pass better. wilson is the best at that.
Like a49erfan77 pointed out (and I should have said) the whole thing with that video is showing arm strength/velocity. You shouldn't have to throw a lollipop rainbow to a guy just standing there. He's not streaking downfield. Jimmy HAS to get air under it to even get it there. Trey does not. That's the whole point.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
if youre throwing to a receiver streaking downfield, throwing with an arch can allow the wr to adjust to the pass better. wilson is the best at that.
Like a49erfan77 pointed out (and I should have said) the whole thing with that video is showing arm strength/velocity. You shouldn't have to throw a lollipop rainbow to a guy just standing there. He's not streaking downfield. Jimmy HAS to get air under it to even get it there. Trey does not. That's the whole point.
I heard Cosell say something similar yesterday. He made a point tj=hat arm strength wasn't about hiw far you can throw but how much zip is on the pass. can you fire it 20-30 yards between 2 defenders. Can you hit the deep sideline throw.
Most NFL QBs can probably throw the ball between 40-50 yards in the air if they do the big wind up and put enough air under it. Throwing it that far with a flick of the arm or while in the move with velocity is a different story.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
if youre throwing to a receiver streaking downfield, throwing with an arch can allow the wr to adjust to the pass better. wilson is the best at that.
Like a49erfan77 pointed out (and I should have said) the whole thing with that video is showing arm strength/velocity. You shouldn't have to throw a lollipop rainbow to a guy just standing there. He's not streaking downfield. Jimmy HAS to get air under it to even get it there. Trey does not. That's the whole point.
for just showing off raw arm talent to a stationary target then ya i understand your point. obviously trey has superior arm strength compared to jimmy.
i was just simply adding that trey has good touch on his deep passes. that they arent thrown on a rope.
Just putting this out here... if the initial speed behind a throw remains constant, higher arc does not always make it go further. Range = v^2 *sin(2a)/g, where v is speed and a is angle. If v is constant, the furthest horizontal distance the ball goes is when the angle of release is 45 degrees. If you go either higher or lower, the distance is less.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
if youre throwing to a receiver streaking downfield, throwing with an arch can allow the wr to adjust to the pass better. wilson is the best at that.
Like a49erfan77 pointed out (and I should have said) the whole thing with that video is showing arm strength/velocity. You shouldn't have to throw a lollipop rainbow to a guy just standing there. He's not streaking downfield. Jimmy HAS to get air under it to even get it there. Trey does not. That's the whole point.
for just showing off raw arm talent to a stationary target then ya i understand your point. obviously trey has superior arm strength compared to jimmy.
i was just simply adding that trey has good touch on his deep passes. that they arent thrown on a rope.
IMO Arm strength from QBs like Kap and Josh Allen (and hopefully Trey) seperate themselves from other QBs... being able to throw a lazer, when needed, to any part of the field is dangerous. We see Josh do that alot.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
if youre throwing to a receiver streaking downfield, throwing with an arch can allow the wr to adjust to the pass better. wilson is the best at that.
Like a49erfan77 pointed out (and I should have said) the whole thing with that video is showing arm strength/velocity. You shouldn't have to throw a lollipop rainbow to a guy just standing there. He's not streaking downfield. Jimmy HAS to get air under it to even get it there. Trey does not. That's the whole point.
for just showing off raw arm talent to a stationary target then ya i understand your point. obviously trey has superior arm strength compared to jimmy.
i was just simply adding that trey has good touch on his deep passes. that they arent thrown on a rope.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Just putting this out here... if the initial speed behind a throw remains constant, higher arc does not always make it go further. Range = v^2 *sin(2a)/g, where v is speed and a is angle. If v is constant, the furthest horizontal distance the ball goes is when the angle of release is 45 degrees. If you go either higher or lower, the distance is less.
Edit- just noticed others have responded to your arguments with pics as well in another thread, but in a negative sense.
Yeah I'm just joking with this one. Thanks for the heads up.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
IMO Arm strength from QBs like Kap and Josh Allen (and hopefully Trey) seperate themselves from other QBs... being able to throw a lazer, when needed, to any part of the field is dangerous. We see Josh do that alot.
yes having a great arm is a plus, but if trey can drop it in like wilson does here, i'll be a very happy man.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
IMO Arm strength from QBs like Kap and Josh Allen (and hopefully Trey) seperate themselves from other QBs... being able to throw a lazer, when needed, to any part of the field is dangerous. We see Josh do that alot.
yes having a great arm is a plus, but if trey can drop it in like wilson does here, i'll be a very happy man.
