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Originally posted by mayo49:
Trey has got a cannon - once he learns to control it, he's going to be a monster.

Why do front offices assume that because a guy has a strong arm he knows how to throw short? And assime it can be easily trained. What could be simpler?

Tried that for 4 years with kap. Bust.
[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on Nov 3, 2021 at 4:28 AM ]
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Trey has got a cannon - once he learns to control it, he's going to be a monster.

Why do front offices assume that because a guy has a strong arm he knows how to throw short? And assime it can be easily trained. What could be simpler?

Tried that for 4 years with kap. Bust.

Kap didn't put in the work. That was his issue, even his own teammates like Crabtree called him out on it. As time went on, he was more obsessed with how he looked in the gym than studying the playbook and working on his mechanics.

And if you ever played a sport you would know that you can get better at certain things. Front offices *assume* this stuff because it happens a lot.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Nov 3, 2021 at 6:39 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's right. The others have proven they can be the starter.

Ideally Trey wouldn't be getting any more playing time until 2022

False. Ideally we're able to play him with a huge lead in all of our games in the 4th quarter.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's right. The others have proven they can be the starter.

Ideally Trey wouldn't be getting any more playing time until 2022

False. Ideally we're able to play him with a huge lead in all of our games in the 4th quarter.

Jimmy is the man in the 4Q. If we could get him to play like this in 1-3Q, you might get your wish!

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Trey has got a cannon - once he learns to control it, he's going to be a monster.

Why do front offices assume that because a guy has a strong arm he knows how to throw short? And assime it can be easily trained. What could be simpler?

Tried that for 4 years with kap. Bust.

Kap didn't put in the work. That was his issue, even his own teammates like Crabtree called him out on it. As time went on, he was more obsessed with how he looked in the gym than studying the playbook and working on his mechanics.

And if you ever played a sport you would know that you can get better at certain things. Front offices *assume* this stuff because it happens a lot.

Yeah Kap's issues weren't as much his throwing ability. It was his processing.

He may not have been Tom Brady/Drew Brees/Russell Wilson with his throws but he could make all the throws. His issue was more reading defenses and reacting to things quickly on the football field. He was very smart but his processing on the field wasn't there. And yes several people have called him out for lack of film study...it could be those people had an ax to grind but seems odd, especially when on the field it looked like there was a lack of film study showing up.

I certainly wish Trey was coming into the league ready to rock but once again people need to be reminded that he just turned 21 this past May. Many QBs have taken huge leaps in their development at that age. Dak Prescott, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, etc...

And out of all of those guys Trey probably has the least throwing experience at that age. There is a ton of growth to be had with this kid. We didn't trade up for him for his rookie season. This was a move for 15+ years for this franchise.

Nothing is guaranteed but from all accounts Trey has the work ethic and the intelligence to do his part. Fans just need a bit of patience.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Trey has got a cannon - once he learns to control it, he's going to be a monster.

Why do front offices assume that because a guy has a strong arm he knows how to throw short? And assime it can be easily trained. What could be simpler?

Tried that for 4 years with kap. Bust.

Kap didn't put in the work. That was his issue, even his own teammates like Crabtree called him out on it. As time went on, he was more obsessed with how he looked in the gym than studying the playbook and working on his mechanics.

And if you ever played a sport you would know that you can get better at certain things. Front offices *assume* this stuff because it happens a lot.

Yeah Kap's issues weren't as much his throwing ability. It was his processing.

He may not have been Tom Brady/Drew Brees/Russell Wilson with his throws but he could make all the throws. His issue was more reading defenses and reacting to things quickly on the football field. He was very smart but his processing on the field wasn't there. And yes several people have called him out for lack of film study...it could be those people had an ax to grind but seems odd, especially when on the field it looked like there was a lack of film study showing up.

I certainly wish Trey was coming into the league ready to rock but once again people need to be reminded that he just turned 21 this past May. Many QBs have taken huge leaps in their development at that age. Dak Prescott, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, etc...

And out of all of those guys Trey probably has the least throwing experience at that age. There is a ton of growth to be had with this kid. We didn't trade up for him for his rookie season. This was a move for 15+ years for this franchise.

Nothing is guaranteed but from all accounts Trey has the work ethic and the intelligence to do his part. Fans just need a bit of patience.

Ya that's what we have to hope for. The talent is there, now hopefully the reports of him being a football junkie is spot on and he puts in a lot of work.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Jimmy is the man in the 4Q. If we could get him to play like this in 1-3Q, you might get your wish!

He's never looked even half as legit as Mac,...and never will.

If he could just be a suitable placeholder to a 10 win season or till Lance is ready, we should be happy.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's right. The others have proven they can be the starter.

Ideally Trey wouldn't be getting any more playing time until 2022

False. Ideally we're able to play him with a huge lead in all of our games in the 4th quarter.

Point taken. I guess ideally was the wrong word. Realistically in the NFL it's not a thing were you play for 3 quarters, rack up a 59-0 lead and rest the starters. That's Alabama vs NW Kentucky A&M stuff. In the NFL even great teams you really don't see that happen. So in an ideal, realistic world Trey wouldn't see the field until 2022 ala Mahomes, Rodgers their rookie years.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's right. The others have proven they can be the starter.

Ideally Trey wouldn't be getting any more playing time until 2022

False. Ideally we're able to play him with a huge lead in all of our games in the 4th quarter.

Jimmy is the man in the 4Q. If we could get him to play like this in 1-3Q, you might get your wish!

Chiefs fans certainly agree with that.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's right. The others have proven they can be the starter.

Ideally Trey wouldn't be getting any more playing time until 2022

False. Ideally we're able to play him with a huge lead in all of our games in the 4th quarter.

Jimmy is the man in the 4Q. If we could get him to play like this in 1-3Q, you might get your wish!

Chiefs fans certainly agree with that.

Haha. You're disdain for the man is endless. Ugly girl syndrome-like.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by AkNiners:
And he doesn't do that heel click that he was doing all gave vs the cards.
Originally posted by Afrikan:
Sure it's preseason, and against backups (I believe)



But still...nice ball placement.

Uh huh. So this throw is BETTER than Jimmys throw to deebo against the Bears. So that means he is better. And he should be starting. Why didn't I see that? Thanks for setting me straight.

Brodie.... this is the Lance thread... that is a Lance Gif.

Besides like Jimmy, Trey hasn't had perfect ball placement on most of his throws yet.
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
I like the stuff JD puts out, but LOL.

One of his videos last year he said he believed Jimmy can be a top 5 QB.


That gif never fails to amuse. I'm not sure which Reynholm I like more, Denholm or Douglass. Maybe Douglass because he voices the pig in Disenchantment.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
There's nothing biased about JD. The dude puts in his work and leaves it at that. These same whiners should stop spending countless hours in here whining about someone else's hard work and do their own video breakdowns from their perspective. They won't though.

BREAKING NEWS:
jonnydel also posts his opinions on the webzone as well, and goes hard after others' opinions!!

What the hell does someone stating their opinion on a message board have to do with videos? Again,...needless confusion that I'd like to hope is purposeful.

A video breakdown doesn't mean someone can't disagree with what you post on a messageboard -- yet, you can roast their opinion. Like,...huh?

The reality is he's just supported an opinion (with weak backing) that our QB is a top QB in the league, and you happen to like that opinion. Nothing about videos and bla bla bla. All that video talk is just diversion.

But as I've told you since before our playoff run, it just isin't true. Jimmy is streaky. Not a dependable QB and average at best due to the ups and downs. Saying the same thing I've said for 2+ yrs and if we're keeping score, it looks like I've been right all along.

It does appear that way,
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Nov 3, 2021 at 10:09 AM ]
49ers Legend Joe Montana Prefers Mac Jones to Trey Lance

The 49ers traded up to acquire the third overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft and with it selected QB Trey Lance. Throughout the draft process, many experts and analysts thought Mac Jones from Alabama would be the pick. Now, Lance has had one career start and Mac Jones is the full-time starter in New England who seems to be improving by the week.

49ers Super Bowl-winning quarterback Joe Montana joined College Football Live this past weekend and echoed that he would have drafted Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance.

Joe Montana on College Football Live: "I would have taken Mac if I was the 49ers… I think it's funny, Alabama reminds me of the old USC the way they are producing quarterbacks"
More high praise and more recruiting material for @AlabamaFTBL
— Brett Greenberg (@74Talk) November 2, 2021

Montana showed high praise for Mac Jones, but Lance has seen limited work on the field this season and his opportunity still awaits.
The debate of Lance versus Jones will only heighten as their respective careers progress, but only time will tell
Originally posted by spizzy:
49ers Legend Joe Montana Prefers Mac Jones to Trey Lance

The 49ers traded up to acquire the third overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft and with it selected QB Trey Lance. Throughout the draft process, many experts and analysts thought Mac Jones from Alabama would be the pick. Now, Lance has had one career start and Mac Jones is the full-time starter in New England who seems to be improving by the week.

49ers Super Bowl-winning quarterback Joe Montana joined College Football Live this past weekend and echoed that he would have drafted Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance.

Joe Montana on College Football Live: "I would have taken Mac if I was the 49ers… I think it's funny, Alabama reminds me of the old USC the way they are producing quarterbacks"
More high praise and more recruiting material for @AlabamaFTBL
— Brett Greenberg (@74Talk) November 2, 2021

Montana showed high praise for Mac Jones, but Lance has seen limited work on the field this season and his opportunity still awaits.
The debate of Lance versus Jones will only heighten as their respective careers progress, but only time will tell

Joe knows the qb position
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