Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:
Tough week for the anything-but-Jimmy and anything-but-Mac crowds. Ouch.

I agree.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Tough week for the anything-but-Jimmy and anything-but-Mac crowds. Ouch.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Now the Mac guys aren't mad because we were wrong on a message board about him being picked 3rd, we're mad because he's a stud and we got a kid who can't make basic throws from within the pocket.

Our coach selected Trey Lance with the 3rd pick of this year's draft.

Didn't you just apologize yesterday about harping on this over and over?

After recent events I am glad we didnt go with the BAMA qb. Players from BAMA have suspect character. Just say NO to BAMA.

Just got to stay ready - don't know when your back in there with Jimmy's injury history.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Now the Mac guys aren't mad because we were wrong on a message board about him being picked 3rd, we're mad because he's a stud and we got a kid who can't make basic throws from within the pocket.

Our coach selected Trey Lance with the 3rd pick of this year's draft.

Didn't you just apologize yesterday about harping on this over and over?

imagine thinking his a stud lol? I've never seen so much ball licking on avg QB play than some posters in here & a couple analysts do with Jones.

He does nothing special...he's beaten 2 teams (NYJ2x & Texans) who have a combined 3 wins and then just played one of his worst game of the yr vs LAC. I mean do people actually watch the NE games? OR are they just seeing some highlights on ESPN? I think they kicked like 4 or 5 FGs and scoring one TD (rushing) on offense vs LAC. Ya'll want more Jimmy G or something? 9TDs to 7 TOs isn't something I call "special"

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Now the Mac guys aren't mad because we were wrong on a message board about him being picked 3rd, we're mad because he's a stud and we got a kid who can't make basic throws from within the pocket.

Our coach selected Trey Lance with the 3rd pick of this year's draft.

Didn't you just apologize yesterday about harping on this over and over?

imagine thinking his a stud lol? I've never seen so much ball licking on avg QB play than some posters in here & a couple analysts do with Jones.

He does nothing special...he's beaten 2 teams (NYJ2x & Texans) who have a combined 3 wins and then just played one of his worst game of the yr vs LAC. I mean do people actually watch the NE games? OR are they just seeing some highlights on ESPN? I think they kicked like 4 or 5 FGs and scoring one TD (rushing) on offense vs LAC. Ya'll want more Jimmy G or something? 9TDs to 7 TOs isn't something I call "special"

GRADING all the rookie QBs this season is a waste of time... someone will obviously look better than the other, but that doesn't mean HE should have been the choice !!!

I'll wait til 2025 before giving out the final grade..

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Now the Mac guys aren't mad because we were wrong on a message board about him being picked 3rd, we're mad because he's a stud and we got a kid who can't make basic throws from within the pocket.

Our coach selected Trey Lance with the 3rd pick of this year's draft.

Didn't you just apologize yesterday about harping on this over and over?

Every time Mac has a good game, he's only going to get more powerful. We need to band together to stop him.

Macs looked good. Not great imo. The pats are 4-4. That's right where we thought they'd be with Mac. They have a great OC in McDaniels and obviously great HC. None of what's happening there should be surprising. If the Pats were 6-2 or 7-1 with Mac, yea maybe I'd readdress him. He's a good QB. We have a good QB imo in Jimmy. We shot for the stars in Lance. Don't throw egg in our faces if he doesn't work out. We trust Kyle. You clearly don't. It's really getting to be toxic.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


Niner fans ripping Joe Montana for preferring Mac jones. Just goes to show you the majority in here never even watched Joe play. Can't rip anyone who played the game the way he played.

Just because Joe was a terrific QB doesn't mean he knows how to evaluate other QBs.

There's also the fact that Joe is saying this now and not before the draft. Evaluating players with hindsight is a fun thing to do. You don't need to be one of the best QBs to play the game to do it.

I would've taken TJ Watt over Solomon Thomas in 2017 (now nobody search my post history from back then)

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


Niner fans ripping Joe Montana for preferring Mac jones. Just goes to show you the majority in here never even watched Joe play. Can't rip anyone who played the game the way he played.

Jones does not play how Joe played. You're gonna talk about people not watching Joe and say this? LMAO. Joe was NIMBLE. He was fast for the position. He threw with better ball placement and more beautiful spirals. I mean, about all they have in common is that they were good in the pocket.

EDIT -- like for real? Jones isn't doing this, bro:

I feel like a lot of people who are acting like Jones is Montana or the best rookie they've seen haven't actually watched closely.

He's done nothing shocking given his pedigree entering the draft. Everyone knew he should be a guy who plays at his best early on. That's why I had no issues with us taking him with our original pick because he was a slight upgrade over Jimmy, with a rookie salary to work around and no injury history.

But when you're going all in for a franchise QB then you need a guy who can elevate the play around him and someone who has a large ceiling to work towards. Jones floor and ceiling are inches apart.

Yes he's accurate, yes he has very good mechanics and yes he's got a great grasp on the Pats offense quickly. Honestly I don't know if there's a better move for a Bama player than going to the Pats. Belichick and Saban are pretty much bffs and Pats use Bama as a minor league club for them.

But when you watch the Pats there are very few big time throws that Jones has made when guys aren't wide open. Now kudos to him that he's finding the open guys but eventually you play a defense which defends well and you have to make some tough contested throws and he's shown very few of those so far. Maybe he improves but eventually his physical limitations will get to him.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Jones does not play how Joe played. You're gonna talk about people not watching Joe and say this? LMAO. Joe was NIMBLE. He was fast for the position. He threw with better ball placement and more beautiful spirals. I mean, about all they have in common is that they were good in the pocket.

EDIT -- like for real? Jones isn't doing this, bro:

I feel like a lot of people who are acting like Jones is Montana or the best rookie they've seen haven't actually watched closely.

He's done nothing shocking given his pedigree entering the draft. Everyone knew he should be a guy who plays at his best early on. That's why I had no issues with us taking him with our original pick because he was a slight upgrade over Jimmy, with a rookie salary to work around and no injury history.

But when you're going all in for a franchise QB then you need a guy who can elevate the play around him and someone who has a large ceiling to work towards. Jones floor and ceiling are inches apart.

Yes he's accurate, yes he has very good mechanics and yes he's got a great grasp on the Pats offense quickly. Honestly I don't know if there's a better move for a Bama player than going to the Pats. Belichick and Saban are pretty much bffs and Pats use Bama as a minor league club for them.

But when you watch the Pats there are very few big time throws that Jones has made when guys aren't wide open. Now kudos to him that he's finding the open guys but eventually you play a defense which defends well and you have to make some tough contested throws and he's shown very few of those so far. Maybe he improves but eventually his physical limitations will get to him.

What isn't often remembered about this game is that Montana threw 3 bad interceptions and lost a fumble, and still over came the team's total of 6 turnovers to win the game so the "Catch" could become epic,

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
What isn't often remembered about this game is that Montana threw 3 bad interceptions and lost a fumble, and still over came the team's total of 6 turnovers to win the game so the "Catch" could become epic,

Perfect example of how it's a team game. Defense bailed out the offense just enough after those turnovers and on the final Cowboys drive after The Catch, and bailed the team out again in the SB when the offensive scoring went stagnant and held the Bengals back just enough.

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Jones does not play how Joe played. You're gonna talk about people not watching Joe and say this? LMAO. Joe was NIMBLE. He was fast for the position. He threw with better ball placement and more beautiful spirals. I mean, about all they have in common is that they were good in the pocket.

EDIT -- like for real? Jones isn't doing this, bro:

I feel like a lot of people who are acting like Jones is Montana or the best rookie they've seen haven't actually watched closely.

He's done nothing shocking given his pedigree entering the draft. Everyone knew he should be a guy who plays at his best early on. That's why I had no issues with us taking him with our original pick because he was a slight upgrade over Jimmy, with a rookie salary to work around and no injury history.

But when you're going all in for a franchise QB then you need a guy who can elevate the play around him and someone who has a large ceiling to work towards. Jones floor and ceiling are inches apart.

Yes he's accurate, yes he has very good mechanics and yes he's got a great grasp on the Pats offense quickly. Honestly I don't know if there's a better move for a Bama player than going to the Pats. Belichick and Saban are pretty much bffs and Pats use Bama as a minor league club for them.

But when you watch the Pats there are very few big time throws that Jones has made when guys aren't wide open. Now kudos to him that he's finding the open guys but eventually you play a defense which defends well and you have to make some tough contested throws and he's shown very few of those so far. Maybe he improves but eventually his physical limitations will get to him.

What isn't often remembered about this game is that Montana threw 3 bad interceptions and lost a fumble, and still over came the team's total of 6 turnovers to win the game so the "Catch" could become epic,

I sure remember them. I wa sat the game and my heart sank several times that day. In the end that made the Catch even more special since there were so many turnovers that day. Most of us in the stands were so excited that we forgot that the game wasn't over and we had to come back to reality as the Cowboys started moving on that last drive. Except for that game saving tackle that game might have been known as the Drive in Cowboy land.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Jones does not play how Joe played. You're gonna talk about people not watching Joe and say this? LMAO. Joe was NIMBLE. He was fast for the position. He threw with better ball placement and more beautiful spirals. I mean, about all they have in common is that they were good in the pocket.

EDIT -- like for real? Jones isn't doing this, bro:

I feel like a lot of people who are acting like Jones is Montana or the best rookie they've seen haven't actually watched closely.

He's done nothing shocking given his pedigree entering the draft. Everyone knew he should be a guy who plays at his best early on. That's why I had no issues with us taking him with our original pick because he was a slight upgrade over Jimmy, with a rookie salary to work around and no injury history.

But when you're going all in for a franchise QB then you need a guy who can elevate the play around him and someone who has a large ceiling to work towards. Jones floor and ceiling are inches apart.

Yes he's accurate, yes he has very good mechanics and yes he's got a great grasp on the Pats offense quickly. Honestly I don't know if there's a better move for a Bama player than going to the Pats. Belichick and Saban are pretty much bffs and Pats use Bama as a minor league club for them.

But when you watch the Pats there are very few big time throws that Jones has made when guys aren't wide open. Now kudos to him that he's finding the open guys but eventually you play a defense which defends well and you have to make some tough contested throws and he's shown very few of those so far. Maybe he improves but eventually his physical limitations will get to him.

What isn't often remembered about this game is that Montana threw 3 bad interceptions and lost a fumble, and still over came the team's total of 6 turnovers to win the game so the "Catch" could become epic,

I sure remember them. I wa sat the game and my heart sank several times that day. In the end that made the Catch even more special since there were so many turnovers that day. Most of us in the stands were so excited that we forgot that the game wasn't over and we had to come back to reality as the Cowboys started moving on that last drive. Except for that game saving tackle that game might have been known as the Drive in Cowboy land.

When I view that tackle, I don't see it as game-saving. Dwight Hicks was coming up on the receiver's right. Hicks would have had a good shot at him even if Eric Wright hadn't slowed him down.

https://youtu.be/tIQHmY84hbk

Both make great points. I tend to agree with Alex. Also, Steve young is the reason I am a niners fan, but man do I think he's not great on the air. I'd way rather listen to Alex l. I think he will be great in TV

PS. Sorry couldn't get it to embed.