Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Damn. Lombardi is salty as hell about being wrong.

"I'm not buying it was Trey Lance all along, Anybody you talk to in the NFL that has sources - they aren't buying that either. [SF] can say it was Trey all along - that's a crock of crap. [T]hey traded up to get Mac Jones and the outside pressure became really bad."

Holy hell. We can laugh about it now as fans, but these NFL media types are 100% butt hurt that they thoroughly played themselves.

Lombardi is a loud mouth piece of crap...always has been. I laugh more at the posters here who got all hostile and argued until they were blue in the face defending clowns like him as though they were special and how dare we question them. I mean I like Schefty a lot more than Lombardi but someone literally said he is no mere writer and he is never wrong about these things and if he said it I am a moron for not believing it is gospel. And lets not even get into the guy who spent several pages trolling me for not believing Lombardi who is wrong about damn near everything all the time.

Lombardi has relegated himself to being nothing but a buffoon at this point. Kyle isn't some weak personality, if he really believed Jones was the right pick for the organization he would have told the fan base f your feelings essentially.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Funny how the Beck tie was a massive reason fans linked Trey to the 49ers saying the 9ers suggested it for he and Fields and not Mac.

I said at the time, I had heard Trey did it on his own and got push back here for it (naturally).

But given he did it on his own is MORE of a reason they ended up liking him most in the end. Smart kid. Smart move.

From the front page:

General manager John Lynch offered some clarification over the weekend. The 49ers didn't insist Lance work with Beck at all. The former North Dakota quarterback had an early first pro day and was training in Los Angeles with his former teammate, Easton Stick. That's when he started working with Beck. A week later, on March 26, San Francisco traded up to No. 3.

As soon as the trade happened, Lance scrambled to set up a second pro day, knowing that he might be among the 49ers' options. It made sense to work again with Beck because of the coach's familiarity with Shanahan and his system. Lynch said the 49ers did not insist Lance work with Beck.

"Yeah, that wasn't the case," Lynch told Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated over the weekend. "So, there are some things there. I went to high school with Tom House's daughter. Kyle's got to know Tom well through Matt Ryan because Matt saw him and Kyle took the time to go out there as a coach, and he met John Beck. But that's not our business to tell people, 'Hey, go here.' And I know that was a big narrative.

"Sometimes people will say, 'Hey, what will he do?' and we'll say we've had good success here. But I can tell you, John's opinion mattered a lot to us, and so did [Lance's previous trainer, Quincy Avery]'s. I talked to Quincy, and he was a tremendous resource—he's been around Trey a lot. So I'm appreciative to both of them."

HA quincy said point blank he didn't speak with SF, so someone is fibbing a little (I'm guessing him at that point) I love that House/Beck got their eyes on Lance and clearly gave a sign of approval. Footwork and football IQ is big for them, so great news there

Here's the article

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What a surprise, right?

Every day that goes by something new comes out but since it's the media reporting it, who knows if it's even true. LOL

As to the more important part, no doubt...IF it was Trey doing this on his own, that's even more impressive to me.

Keep grinding on the playbook and mechanics. Kyle's already in the think-tank to help make that 60% that much easier for him.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Hypothetical situation: We didn't draft Lance and chose another one of the QBs with #3. What pick would Lance have gone and to what team?

Falcons at 4, or too either one of the Panthers or Broncos in a possible trade up.

You don't think the Falcons were locked in on Pitts at #4?

Allbright said if you want Lance you will have to move to 3, he also said Denver loved Lance

The only conclusion I can come to that other teams wanted Lance over Fields/Jones is that no team traded up except for CHI to 12. Wondering if we did not select Lance, if a team would have traded up for him.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Trey Lance had a GPS tracked time at 21.54 MPH on this run.

That would of made him the 14th fastest ball carrier in the NFL last year right behind Will Fuller but ahead of AJ Brown.

Lamar Jackson's 2 fastest times in 2020 were at 20.64 and 20.52 MPH.👀#TreyLance #49ers pic.twitter.com/jdsuCpohjK

— John Chapman (@JL_Chapman) May 3, 2021

There are ppl on this board and in the media who think it's hard to get how good or fast of a runner Lance is bc he's playing against future car salesmen. Well - here it is.



Lamar Jackson is 6'2 210 24 years old in his physical prime
Lance is 6'4 225 20 year old

This is sort of a relief for me. Was difficult to tell Lance's speed because he appears so under control when he's running. But I guess his top speed is very fast. I think his 40-time is faster than what was clocked. I'm sure his primary focus wasn't coming out of a sprinter's stance.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

Yeah, who knows. David Lombardi and Barrows thought the move was initially for Mac too (highly suspect it was anything else) and Kyle confirmed it came down to those two too. Never mentioned Fields. Staff and owner thought it was Mac too...has to be for a valid reason.

Who knows what to believe anymore. LOL

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

He's not right...at no point did the front office indicate who they were taking. It was always speculation or beliefs that the 49ers were picking Jones. All the smoke was hot air being pushed by the media craving for anything to talk about and no evidence. Also, Lance would not have been there at 12. Reports/speculation had Carolina being interested in taking Lance at 8 and Allbright reporting that the Broncos would only trade up for a QB if it was Lance. Lance to the 49ers picked up steam right before the draft and the Broncos made a trade for Teddy. Truth is, if we picked Jones it would create a QB frenzy with teams wanting to move up for Fields and Lance. It didn't happen and now the media is trying to cover their behinds or pretend it never happened.

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

This idiot too. Him & Karen Florio sounded like complete douches trying to CYA the day after. Them, Lombardi and a handful of other dicks are gonna die on this stupid moehill. Hey dumbasses it's not really a stretch they were targeting Lance the whole time.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

Yeah, who knows. David Lombardi and Barrows thought the move was initially for Mac too (highly suspect it was anything else) and Kyle confirmed it came down to those two too. Never mentioned Fields. Staff and owner thought it was Mac too...has to be for a valid reason.

Who knows what to believe anymore. LOL

I think our initial pick at 12 was for Mac. But the door opened to Lance when we traded to 3, at which point, Lance was our backup, safe, option in case we weren't 100% on anyone else.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

Except the Ron Rivera literally confirmed that they would have traded up if Lance was there. The trade up this whole time has been for Lance, nobody ever seriously thought McCorkle wouldn't be there at 12.

I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

Originally posted by GorefullBore:
Lombardi has relegated himself to being nothing but a buffoon at this point. Kyle isn't some weak personality, if he really believed Jones was the right pick for the organization he would have told the fan base f your feelings essentially.

True but I also know that our risk and analytics team would have advised against the month early trade up because it was well know we could have had Mac cheaper on draft day even if it was for two firsts on a trade up

Theres no way they would have given the go ahead on that deal to go up that high that early for Mac

Originally posted by ltrain:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:

Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

He's not right...at no point did the front office indicate who they were taking. It was always speculation or beliefs that the 49ers were picking Jones. All the smoke was hot air being pushed by the media craving for anything to talk about and no evidence. Also, Lance would not have been there at 12. Reports/speculation had Carolina being interested in taking Lance at 8 and Allbright reporting that the Broncos would only trade up for a QB if it was Lance. Lance to the 49ers picked up steam right before the draft and the Broncos made a trade for Teddy. Truth is, if we picked Jones it would create a QB frenzy with teams wanting to move up for Fields and Lance. It didn't happen and now the media is trying to cover their behinds or pretend it never happened.

Exactly, there were multiple teams who were all over Lance. Not just 2, but like 3 or more. Moving up this far was the only guarantee of getting him. He was going anywhere 4 thru 9 otherwise.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

Mac fell to 15 dude. It speaks for itself