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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

Lol JoseCortez really is the perfect username for you.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, who knows. David Lombardi and Barrows thought the move was initially for Mac too (highly suspect it was anything else) and Kyle confirmed it came down to those two too. Never mentioned Fields. Staff and owner thought it was Mac too...has to be for a valid reason.

Who knows what to believe anymore. LOL

I believe what I see. We spent three firsts and a third to get to three where we selected Lance. Mac Jones fell to 15 nearly falling to sleep in the waiting room
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

There weren't any leaks. The reporters talk to player agents as well and if Lance's agent tells a reporter that there are a handful of teams in the top 10 interested in him, then it isn't that difficult to conclude that SF is also interested.

My things is, did Fields drop mainly because of his condition? He seems to be the most dynamic.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by ltrain:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

He's not right...at no point did the front office indicate who they were taking. It was always speculation or beliefs that the 49ers were picking Jones. All the smoke was hot air being pushed by the media craving for anything to talk about and no evidence. Also, Lance would not have been there at 12. Reports/speculation had Carolina being interested in taking Lance at 8 and Allbright reporting that the Broncos would only trade up for a QB if it was Lance. Lance to the 49ers picked up steam right before the draft and the Broncos made a trade for Teddy. Truth is, if we picked Jones it would create a QB frenzy with teams wanting to move up for Fields and Lance. It didn't happen and now the media is trying to cover their behinds or pretend it never happened.

Exactly, there were multiple teams who were all over Lance. Not just 2, but like 3 or more. Moving up this far was the only guarantee of getting him. He was going anywhere 4 thru 9 otherwise.

There is no way Lance would have fell to us at 12, just no way, someone else would have traded up maybe at 5 or 6 to get him, but no way he goes to 12.

We all knew Jones was going to fall and that we didn't need to trade up to get him if that was who we wanted.
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Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

This idiot too. Him & Karen Florio sounded like complete douches trying to CYA the day after. Them, Lombardi and a handful of other dicks are gonna die on this stupid moehill. Hey dumbasses it's not really a stretch they were targeting Lance the whole time.

This
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

I think you have not dealt with what you've just seen. We gave up the farm and selected Trey. Mac Jones got bedsores sitting on his ass in the waiting room til his name got called middle first round. That's tangible proof he never belonged in the conversation anyway
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

Ok so Kyle goes on Eisen yesterday and clarifies for like the 5th time that Lance was both the initial and final target, likely going back to January, and "there is too much evidence" that what? Kyle AND Lynch are lying and idiots like Lombardi were right all along?

I think it's FAR more likely that washed up "experts" like Lombardi were not thinking, came up with a bad and woefully incorrect narrative about the target being Jones, and now don't want to look stupid. Which they are.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

They knew Fields wasn't in consideration because they probably told him, "hey we really like you but we will be going another directions" and his agent probably told reporters. Trey Lance probably gained steam at the end because they probably told Mac Jones the same thing.
Is it weird/pathetic that I'm still relishing in the joy of the media pundits spinning around in circles after shoving Mac Jones down our throats for a month?
Originally posted by Joecool:
There weren't any leaks. The reporters talk to player agents as well and if Lance's agent tells a reporter that there are a handful of teams in the top 10 interested in him, then it isn't that difficult to conclude that SF is also interested.

My things is, did Fields drop mainly because of his condition? He seems to be the most dynamic.

He was a top pick and a club wanted him badly enough to trade up and get him. I think he did well. He went earlier than Mac Jones as well he should have. There were some talented player KD picked before him too. I'm thinking Fields dropped more so to some character traits unbeknownst to us that can't evaluate him. It has to be something we can't see so we can only speculate but I knew he was better than Mac Jones!
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/98-percent-nfl-teams-think-mac-jones-49ers-michael-lombardi-says

There is no way 98% of NFL teams can do anything. 31 divided by 32 is 96.8%. He can't math and was just making s**t up. There was a 33% chance anyone guessing who the 49ers would select would get it right (Mac/Fields/Lance). It's not amazing if a person correctly guessed who the 49ers would take and Lombardi got it wrong.
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."

This idiot too. Him & Karen Florio sounded like complete douches trying to CYA the day after. Them, Lombardi and a handful of other dicks are gonna die on this stupid moehill. Hey dumbasses it's not really a stretch they were targeting Lance the whole time.

This

It's HILARIOUS to me that anyone would think that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch would alter their decision making and cave to FAN and TALKING HEADS in selecting their next QB.

Really folks!?

John Lynch the Hall of Famer and Kyle "I don't change my mind for anyone" Shanahan
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

I think you have not dealt with what you've just seen. We gave up the farm and selected Trey. Mac Jones got bedsores sitting on his ass in the waiting room til his name got called middle first round. That's tangible proof he never belonged in the conversation anyway

Anyone notice Jones was sitting by himself.

Like where was his support?

smells like Bo Callahan to me lol.

Either way, I'm very happy we took Lance over Jones .
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
He's right. And so was Lombardi. Lynch and Shanahan caved in to pressure to select Lance. Too much smoke and evidence. What disappoints me the most is that they said the presser that would listen to social media etc, and they were going to do their job.

Mac fell to 15 dude. It speaks for itself

Only because the 49ers passed. Teams start to wonder...
Originally posted by LilLeeroy:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.

They knew Fields wasn't in consideration because they probably told him, "hey we really like you but we will be going another directions" and his agent probably told reporters. Trey Lance probably gained steam at the end because they probably told Mac Jones the same thing.

Fields basically stated he felt the niners lied to him. The niners didn't say anything to the players inluding lance.

Also, an article stated that shanahan told lynch a few days prior of he was ready to go with lance. Lynch asked if he was serious. Does that sound like it was lance from the start? It actually sounds like he doubted shanahan would go with lance.

We need to stop believing anything we are being fed.
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