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Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread
May 4, 2021 at 7:50 AM
- CatchMaster80
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The best thing Trey can learn from Jimmy is that you're only as good as your last game or your last season. Jimmy was picked in the 2nd round as a possible replacement for Brady and we know how that turned out. Trey is supposed to be Jimmy's replacement and probably will be, but he still needs to prove himself. Then when he becomes the starter he has to keep producing because in the NFL there's always someone after your job. It's not like college where you redshirt and get another year of eligibility if you get hurt.
May 4, 2021 at 7:51 AM
- LilLeeroy
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The "Kyle wanted Mac Jones theory the whole time but caved to fan pressure" is such a strange theory that would require literally sub-BOB level of competence from just about every single person in our organization to be true.
So what's more likely that or the media pushed the 5th rated QB by literally everybody on us to generate clicks?
So what's more likely that or the media pushed the 5th rated QB by literally everybody on us to generate clicks?
May 4, 2021 at 7:52 AM
- ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared their preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Yeah I can see the meeting now..
Lynch: WHo do you like, Kyle?
Shanahan: I'm not going to tell you now. How about you?
Lynch: I'd rather not say either. Hey why don;t we surprise each other right before the draft??
May 4, 2021 at 7:53 AM
- IceMan1763
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared there preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Do you really truly believe that they NEVER shared their preference? That they decided to trade up and trade the farm without even discussing it? Ok.
Again keep drinking it up.
Have you listened to any of their press conferences or do you just create a reality in your own head that fills in the narratives you want to believe in?
May 4, 2021 at 7:54 AM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Yep, there it is. Why would Lynch say that if were set on Lance,
You guys must lack social skills. It's a rhetorical. As in: You know I have a major hard on for Lance like you. Of course I want Lance. You're not f**king with me are you....?
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on May 4, 2021 at 7:58 AM ]
May 4, 2021 at 7:54 AM
- JoseCortez
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared their preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Yeah I can see the meeting now..
Lynch: WHo do you like, Kyle?
Shanahan: I'm not going to tell you now. How about you?
Lynch: I'd rather not say either. Hey why don;t we surprise each other right before the draft??
May 4, 2021 at 7:54 AM
- ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared there preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Do you really truly believe that they NEVER shared their preference? That they decided to trade up and trade the farm without even discussing it? Ok.
Again keep drinking it up.
Makes complete sense.
May 4, 2021 at 7:55 AM
- IceMan1763
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared their preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Yeah I can see the meeting now..
Lynch: WHo do you like, Kyle?
Shanahan: I'm not going to tell you now. How about you?
Lynch: I'd rather not say either. Hey why don;t we surprise each other right before the draft??
If you actually listen to the press conferences, you'll hear Kyle mention not wanting to color the opinions of the rest of the staff by knowing who he liked. I remember you from the Draft War Rooms threads and you hated Lance all along though, so even when Lynch and Kyle literally SAY exactly what happened, you're still not going to believe it. Nothing can pierce that concrete bias you're still clinging to.
May 4, 2021 at 7:56 AM
- Viperboy
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Because just like his field goals... he just shanked this post wide left?
So he's cracking under the pressure huh?
Dude hit like a linebacker on kick offs .....I'll give him that.
May 4, 2021 at 7:57 AM
- IceMan1763
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Yep, there it is. Why would Lynch say that if were set on Lance,
You guys must lack social skills. It's a rhetorical. As in: You know I have a major hard on for Lance like you. Of course I want Lance. You're not f**king me are you....?
The lack of ability to comprehend the context behind the conversation is seriously mind boggling.
May 4, 2021 at 7:57 AM
- LilLeeroy
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared their preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Yeah I can see the meeting now..
Lynch: WHo do you like, Kyle?
Shanahan: I'm not going to tell you now. How about you?
Lynch: I'd rather not say either. Hey why don;t we surprise each other right before the draft??
Or they were discussing the strengths and weaknesses or each prospect but avoided explicitly stating who their favorite prospect was until decision time to avoid bias.
But it's much more likely that they are a bunch of buffoons who decided to pass on somebody the believed was the better prospect because it would upset some people on twitter.
May 4, 2021 at 7:57 AM
- a49erfan77
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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by Giants9ersfan:
Originally posted by 91til:
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Chris Simms: "I'm not sure the 49ers really needed to trade up from 12 to get Trey Lance."
This idiot too. Him & Karen Florio sounded like complete douches trying to CYA the day after. Them, Lombardi and a handful of other dicks are gonna die on this stupid moehill. Hey dumbasses it's not really a stretch they were targeting Lance the whole time.
This
It's HILARIOUS to me that anyone would think that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch would alter their decision making and cave to FAN and TALKING HEADS in selecting their next QB.
Really folks!?
John Lynch the Hall of Famer and Kyle "I don't change my mind for anyone" Shanahan
It's all about ticket sales and merchandise revenue. The sexier pick and fan favorite will get that for you.
Maybe for a year. Actually winning will get that stuff long term. You don't pass on the guy you want to increase revenue for a year.
May 4, 2021 at 8:03 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I hate to break it to you guys, but lombardi is right. There is waaay too much evidence to suggest otherwise. If there were no leaks how did schefter know that it was trey lance gaining steam at the end? He didn't need to report it, he didn't need to make that up. He could have stuck with his mac jones prediction. They caved and now we have to hope that it works out. I'm disappointed in the whole process, starting with the trade up. I think shanahan panicked. I think giving up two first rounders was a terrible move. Just all around disappointed.
Adam was doing his thing all the same...thinks it's Jones then says WELLLL maybe it could be someone else at the end of all of his convos.
MAYBE when SF was completely done with their evaluations and finally made a decision the truth (Lance) was the real report. These guys get feed b******t just as much as they get feed the truth. They listen to agents and what players are told in meetings with these teams....Which is clearly speculation and everyone feel for it hook, line, and sinker.
Caved over what? this is such a silly post....the content up to the draft is entertainment, go look at the ratings, go look at all the freaking clicks and go look at the amount of money spent (gambling) on that 3rd overall.
Too be disappointed with the team moving up for what could very well be a top 5 QB in the NFL and a long-term FQB is ridiculous. Thinking he panicked is very disappointing lol. give me break with this
May 4, 2021 at 8:07 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Dude are you trolling? Come on Deberg? Throw it to our guys not the other team!
He didn't like the pick so that's what it has to be lol...never mind the massive amount of upside and intangibles
Same people that got fooled by Lombardi and the same ones that believe the pick was about ticket sales lol. Let's get the tinfoil hats on.
It can't be a simple as they liked Lance the whole damn time, let the media jump all over a "rumor" and watch chaos and ratings for the NFL go through the roof.
May 4, 2021 at 8:08 AM
- ComeOnDeberg
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Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Originally posted by IceMan1763:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2942548-49ers-kyle-shanahan-john-lynch-explain-how-they-decided-on-trey-lance.amp.html
Straight from lynch's mouth
You aren't f**king with me, are you?
But yes. Lance from the start.
Do you understand the context of that conversation AT ALL? Do you know that Lynch and Kyle never shared their preferences? Lynch was ECSTATIC they both loved the same guy.
So yes, Lance from the start. Got any more brain busters for me?
Yeah I can see the meeting now..
Lynch: WHo do you like, Kyle?
Shanahan: I'm not going to tell you now. How about you?
Lynch: I'd rather not say either. Hey why don;t we surprise each other right before the draft??
If you actually listen to the press conferences, you'll hear Kyle mention not wanting to color the opinions of the rest of the staff by knowing who he liked. I remember you from the Draft War Rooms threads and you hated Lance all along though, so even when Lynch and Kyle literally SAY exactly what happened, you're still not going to believe it. Nothing can pierce that concrete bias you're still clinging to.
Yes I believe they traded up for Jones initially. Adam Shefter doesn't come out and say with complete confidence "It'll be Jones." Yes, it was Jones who they traded for because Kyle and Mike Shanahan really like him. Then when the backlash from fans and media were coming from all sides, Lynch and company tried to convince Kyle to change his mind to Lance. I don't dislike Lance. I just think if you are going trade up to #3 and give up several number ones, the guy better be ready to start day 1, which isn't the case for Lance. He is an extremely risky project. Yeah, he will probably sit a year and learn in 2021. 2022 he may start if he pans out, and that will be a another year of major growing pains since he will not have played QB for over two years.