Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just want to see the kid progress. Right now I'm not seeing it. I see the other guys doing it.
Locker was a big project IMO.
The other QBs don't have anyone in front of them lol
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Nov 19, 2021 at 6:05 PM
- frenchmov
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The other QBs don't have anyone in front of them lol
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:08 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just want to see the kid progress. Right now I'm not seeing it. I see the other guys doing it.
Locker was a big project IMO.
The other QBs don't have anyone in front of them lol
Mac Jones would start in front of Jimmy G. He's better right now as a rookie.
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:12 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
The only concern I have with Trey is his accuracy
If that doesn't improve he won't reach his full potential
He has the arm strength, mobility and mental stuff in my opinion to be great. He also has the work ethic and drive to get better.
He needs reps and non stop off-season work on mechanics to reach his potential
You don't give up that many picks for a player who lacks accuracy. You pick the accurate player.
If his accuracy doesn't improve he will still be a B type player instead of A type player.
B type player has most of the tools to succeed
but is missing something like elite arm strength or elite accuracy
B type players are still good enough to win...they just don't hit that super star level where they can carry the team
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:17 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
The only concern I have with Trey is his accuracy
If that doesn't improve he won't reach his full potential
He has the arm strength, mobility and mental stuff in my opinion to be great. He also has the work ethic and drive to get better.
He needs reps and non stop off-season work on mechanics to reach his potential
You don't give up that many picks for a player who lacks accuracy. You pick the accurate player.
If his accuracy doesn't improve he will still be a B type player instead of A type player.
B type player has most of the tools to succeed
but is missing something like elite arm strength or elite accuracy
B type players are still good enough to win...they just don't hit that super star level where they can carry the team
You don't give up this many picks for that.
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:18 PM
- frenchmov
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mac Jones would start in front of Jimmy G. He's better right now as a rookie.
No he's not. He's playing on a team with an incredible defense. Shanahan would keep him on the bench in the same way. I will agree Mac is a jimmy clone, and there's nothing wrong with that. In the right circumstances (great D and a great run game) jimmy can succeed. Sound familiar to what's happening in New England?
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:19 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I am at the point where I no longer want to see him play this season. Throwing a rookie into the games now essentially means that our season is over. I was of the belief (and still am), that if we would have made Trey the starter earlier, that him playing down the stretch WOULDNT have meant the season was over, and by this time we would still be able to win with him. But since he hasnt had really any time as our QB1 and we are 11 weeks into the season, it would be silly to throw him in there now and hope to win.
However I will say this. If we stick with Jimmy for the duration of the season, WE BETTER make the damn playoffs. If we dont make the playoffs, AND Trey doesnt get experience, this will have been a wasted season.
What if Jimmy plays well, but the team loses and is 5-8? I'd like to see Lance. Any game experience is good experience imo.
How Jimmy plays is irrelevant to me in terms of this specific conversation. If we are 5-8, then its Trey time, even if Jimmy is lighting it up. I would qualify 5-8 as the season being over.
What I was saying is that as long as we keep winning, I am down for Jimmy to start. What I am not down for is Jimmy to keep playing because "he is the best QB we have currently" if its not coming with wins and a playoff berth. Trey needs reps. The reason I would be good with him not getting them is if we are winning. If the wins go away, Jimmy needs to also, so we can get our rookie QB ready for next season.
Well then you're in luck, as Kyle has indicated that Jimmy will play as long as the team is playing for something.
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:19 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
The only concern I have with Trey is his accuracy
If that doesn't improve he won't reach his full potential
He has the arm strength, mobility and mental stuff in my opinion to be great. He also has the work ethic and drive to get better.
He needs reps and non stop off-season work on mechanics to reach his potential
You don't give up that many picks for a player who lacks accuracy. You pick the accurate player.
Tell that to the Bills.
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:20 PM
- Tigerlaw
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
The only concern I have with Trey is his accuracy
If that doesn't improve he won't reach his full potential
He has the arm strength, mobility and mental stuff in my opinion to be great. He also has the work ethic and drive to get better.
He needs reps and non stop off-season work on mechanics to reach his potential
You don't give up that many picks for a player who lacks accuracy. You pick the accurate player.
If his accuracy doesn't improve he will still be a B type player instead of A type player.
B type player has most of the tools to succeed
but is missing something like elite arm strength or elite accuracy
B type players are still good enough to win...they just don't hit that super star level where they can carry the team
You don't give up this many picks for that.
You give up picks in the hope he reaches his A+ potential
He has a realistic chance to improve and have all the elite tools for the position
You keep assuming he will stay in his raw form. If he doesn't improve then ya...was stupid to invest that many picks.
If he develops he is going to be extremely dangerous in a KS offense
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:21 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I just want to see the kid progress. Right now I'm not seeing it. I see the other guys doing it.
Locker was a big project IMO.
You're not seeing it because it was never happening YR1 right or wrong…any QB they drafted was gonna be in the same boat, it was Jimmy or bust when they agreed to pay him his big fat cap hit this yr.
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:22 PM
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The alternative to swinging for the fences (trey) is to stay status quo. Status quo requires a great run game & a top 5 defense. Difficult to keep that together
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:23 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mac Jones would start in front of Jimmy G. He's better right now as a rookie.
He most certainly would not be…Jimmy was the starter the moment they agreed to pay him all that cash. Jones and everyone else would be in the butt bench. Get over it
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:26 PM
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Tell that to the Bills.
And where's this b******t he's not accurate narrative coming from? Last I saw he completed 67% of his balls and don't give me he's played against no one BS. There wasn't a QB in college football that had a larger window to throw throw to wide open WRs than Jones.
SD knew he wasn't gonna play this yr so he's gonna complain about it because that's what he does.
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:35 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Tell that to the Bills.
And where's this b******t he's not accurate narrative coming from? Last I saw he completed 67% of his balls and don't give me he's played against no one BS. There wasn't a QB in college football that had a larger window to throw throw to wide open WRs than Jones.
SD knew he wasn't gonna play this yr so he's gonna complain about it because that's what he does.
Oh yes, because Lance didnt play on the most dominant team his entire career at a much lower level...
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:51 PM
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Originally posted by mattster03:
Oh yes, because Lance didnt play on the most dominant team his entire career at a much lower level...
Go look at PFF draft breakdown there wasn't a single QB in college that had a larger "open window" to throw to then Jones.
How'd that dominate NDSU do last yr without him? First time they got 4th in their division since 2009.
ya'll are b***hing about a kid that hasn't even played yet…pretty typical I guess
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Nov 19, 2021 at 6:52 PM ]
Nov 19, 2021 at 6:57 PM
- mattster03
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Not b***hing about the player. b***hing about the draft capital cost. It's already painfully apparent the Niners spent too much draft capital to get this project of a QB.
[ Edited by mattster03 on Nov 19, 2021 at 7:00 PM ]