Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:
Translation: "I'm a pro's pro and then I gotta call some high school crap just to get him a few live reps? No thanks."

I know it's tough throwing to your first read and handing the ball off 40x a game

That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Translation: "I'm a pro's pro and then I gotta call some high school crap just to get him a few live reps? No thanks."

I know it's tough throwing to your first read and handing the ball off 40x a game

It got Trey hurt in his only start.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
It got Trey hurt in his only start.

What play did he get "hurt" doing? How many times has Jimmy gotten hurt?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.

I know because so many teams are running two QBs out there when one is getting paid $27M this yr….only thing garbage is your constant dumb posts about this

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
It got Trey hurt in his only start.

What play did he get "hurt" doing? How many times has Jimmy gotten hurt?

Didn't catch the exact play myself. Would like to review it.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.

I think you might be hitting that drum a little hard. Lance hasn't shown much because he hasn't had much opportunity to do so. In the one start he did have he looked like a rookie with limited experience, which is what he is. By next season he will have had two full training camps two preseasons and a full regular season to have studied and learned what it takes to play QB in the NFL. Although he will probably be lacking much in the way of actual game reps if the team keeps on his current trajectory he will have had whatever benefits being on the scout team have to offer.

I have yet to see any reports questioning his work ethic or ability to grasp the offense. Like all running QB's he will need to learn to not rely on his legs at the first sign of trouble and that long term success in the NFL requires that players learn how to win from the pocket. If the team around him is strong enough that will help make up for some of his inexperience.

Of course, the problem is that a lot of defensive players are on one year contracts this year for what they all assumed would be a Super Bowl run with a better payday on the other side so we'll have to see how all that plays out. On the plus side he has a lot of young talent that he can grow with on the offensive side Aiyuk, Mitchell, and Samuel. He'll even be able to get a few more year out of Kittle. As I have said before I have zero expectations for Lance at the moment and am just waiting for his turn to come in and show my what he can do. Hopefully it will be good enough to take care of the team's QB position for the next ten years.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.

I think you might be hitting that drum a little hard. Lance hasn't shown much because he hasn't had much opportunity to do so. In the one start he did have he looked like a rookie with limited experience, which is what he is. By next season he will have had two full training camps two preseasons and a full regular season to have studied and learned what it takes to play QB in the NFL. Although he will probably be lacking much in the way of actual game reps if the team keeps on his current trajectory he will have had whatever benefits being on the scout team have to offer.

I have yet to see any reports questioning his work ethic or ability to grasp the offense. Like all running QB's he will need to learn to not rely on his legs at the first sign of trouble and that long term success in the NFL requires that players learn how to win from the pocket. If the team around him is strong enough that will help make up for some of his inexperience.

Of course, the problem is that a lot of defensive players are on one year contracts this year for what they all assumed would be a Super Bowl run with a better payday on the other side so we'll have to see how all that plays out. On the plus side he has a lot of young talent that he can grow with on the offensive side Aiyuk, Mitchell, and Samuel. He'll even be able to get a few more year out of Kittle. As I have said before I have zero expectations for Lance at the moment and am just waiting for his turn to come in and show my what he can do. Hopefully it will be good enough to take care of the team's QB position for the next ten years.

I'm confident, not so much in Trey, but in Kyle. So based on that, I think Trey will be fine. What Kyle has done to help with the development of other QB's including Jimmy, gives me confidence that once Trey gets going as QB 1, his progress as a 49er QB should be rapid, fast and breathtaking. (I hope )

Nvmd

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.

I think you might be hitting that drum a little hard. Lance hasn't shown much because he hasn't had much opportunity to do so. In the one start he did have he looked like a rookie with limited experience, which is what he is. By next season he will have had two full training camps two preseasons and a full regular season to have studied and learned what it takes to play QB in the NFL. Although he will probably be lacking much in the way of actual game reps if the team keeps on his current trajectory he will have had whatever benefits being on the scout team have to offer.

I have yet to see any reports questioning his work ethic or ability to grasp the offense. Like all running QB's he will need to learn to not rely on his legs at the first sign of trouble and that long term success in the NFL requires that players learn how to win from the pocket. If the team around him is strong enough that will help make up for some of his inexperience.

Of course, the problem is that a lot of defensive players are on one year contracts this year for what they all assumed would be a Super Bowl run with a better payday on the other side so we'll have to see how all that plays out. On the plus side he has a lot of young talent that he can grow with on the offensive side Aiyuk, Mitchell, and Samuel. He'll even be able to get a few more year out of Kittle. As I have said before I have zero expectations for Lance at the moment and am just waiting for his turn to come in and show my what he can do. Hopefully it will be good enough to take care of the team's QB position for the next ten years.

I'm confident, not so much in Trey, but in Kyle. So based on that, I think Trey will be fine. What Kyle has done to help with the development of other QB's including Jimmy, gives me confidence that once Trey gets going as QB 1, his progress as a 49er QB should be rapid, fast and breathtaking. (I hope )

.. just can't wait what KS & JL will then say if Baby Face doesn't turn out to be the next Mahomes..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.

I think you might be hitting that drum a little hard. Lance hasn't shown much because he hasn't had much opportunity to do so. In the one start he did have he looked like a rookie with limited experience, which is what he is. By next season he will have had two full training camps two preseasons and a full regular season to have studied and learned what it takes to play QB in the NFL. Although he will probably be lacking much in the way of actual game reps if the team keeps on his current trajectory he will have had whatever benefits being on the scout team have to offer.

I have yet to see any reports questioning his work ethic or ability to grasp the offense. Like all running QB's he will need to learn to not rely on his legs at the first sign of trouble and that long term success in the NFL requires that players learn how to win from the pocket. If the team around him is strong enough that will help make up for some of his inexperience.

Of course, the problem is that a lot of defensive players are on one year contracts this year for what they all assumed would be a Super Bowl run with a better payday on the other side so we'll have to see how all that plays out. On the plus side he has a lot of young talent that he can grow with on the offensive side Aiyuk, Mitchell, and Samuel. He'll even be able to get a few more year out of Kittle. As I have said before I have zero expectations for Lance at the moment and am just waiting for his turn to come in and show my what he can do. Hopefully it will be good enough to take care of the team's QB position for the next ten years.

I'm confident, not so much in Trey, but in Kyle. So based on that, I think Trey will be fine. What Kyle has done to help with the development of other QB's including Jimmy, gives me confidence that once Trey gets going as QB 1, his progress as a 49er QB should be rapid, fast and breathtaking. (I hope )

.. just can't wait what KS & JL will then say if Baby Face doesn't turn out to be the next Mahomes..

Personally, I think he has the physical gifts to be as good or better than Mahomes. We shall see.

He has the rocket arm, blazing footspeed, great elusiveness in running, has very good pocket awareness. Good accuracy on the move, good accuracy in the pocket, hard worker, willing to learn, relatively injury free (from his college history). He seems to be very bright, and seems to pick football things up very quickly. Even if he only has 70% of Jimmy's mental processing power, the physical attributes may make that a wash. My hope is that he's WAY better than Jimmy and hopefully can have a career like Tom Brady.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Nvmd

Nevermind what?

Just remember, the year to develop is fine, but what's almost unbelievable, is that he has only started 27 football games in his life at qb from high school and above:
9 in Minnesota high school
17 in 3 years at NDSU
1 in the NFL
Thats not even in a timespan, that's his whole life. He hasn't even played two seasons in a row as a starting qb in his life. The kid has to play. It's that simple.
There is a decent chance he isn't consistent enough from the pocket that he simply can't play in the league. He has tools but no experience, relatively speaking.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Just remember, the year to develop is fine, but what's almost unbelievable, is that he has only started 27 football games in his life at qb from high school and above:

Maybe you completely missed it but we had this whole "COVID" thing going on for the last year and a half that stripped some kids of a full season.

I mean,...for those that are up to date with current events, it's very believable.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Just remember, the year to develop is fine, but what's almost unbelievable, is that he has only started 27 football games in his life at qb from high school and above:

Maybe you completely missed it but we had this whole "COVID" thing going on for the last year and a half that stripped some kids of a full season.

I mean,...for those that are up to date with current events, it's very believable.

I doubt you will ever find a qb taken in the 1st round who only started 9 games in high school.
17 in college.