Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That garbage sounds like a lot of Tr_EXCUSES. If he could play and add any value he would play. But he has not proven that so far.
I think you might be hitting that drum a little hard. Lance hasn't shown much because he hasn't had much opportunity to do so. In the one start he did have he looked like a rookie with limited experience, which is what he is. By next season he will have had two full training camps two preseasons and a full regular season to have studied and learned what it takes to play QB in the NFL. Although he will probably be lacking much in the way of actual game reps if the team keeps on his current trajectory he will have had whatever benefits being on the scout team have to offer.
I have yet to see any reports questioning his work ethic or ability to grasp the offense. Like all running QB's he will need to learn to not rely on his legs at the first sign of trouble and that long term success in the NFL requires that players learn how to win from the pocket. If the team around him is strong enough that will help make up for some of his inexperience.
Of course, the problem is that a lot of defensive players are on one year contracts this year for what they all assumed would be a Super Bowl run with a better payday on the other side so we'll have to see how all that plays out. On the plus side he has a lot of young talent that he can grow with on the offensive side Aiyuk, Mitchell, and Samuel. He'll even be able to get a few more year out of Kittle. As I have said before I have zero expectations for Lance at the moment and am just waiting for his turn to come in and show my what he can do. Hopefully it will be good enough to take care of the team's QB position for the next ten years.
I'm confident, not so much in Trey, but in Kyle. So based on that, I think Trey will be fine. What Kyle has done to help with the development of other QB's including Jimmy, gives me confidence that once Trey gets going as QB 1, his progress as a 49er QB should be rapid, fast and breathtaking. (I hope
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.. just can't wait what KS & JL will then say if Baby Face doesn't turn out to be the next Mahomes..
Personally, I think he has the physical gifts to be as good or better than Mahomes. We shall see.
He has the rocket arm, blazing footspeed, great elusiveness in running, has very good pocket awareness. Good accuracy on the move, good accuracy in the pocket, hard worker, willing to learn, relatively injury free (from his college history). He seems to be very bright, and seems to pick football things up very quickly. Even if he only has 70% of Jimmy's mental processing power, the physical attributes may make that a wash. My hope is that he's WAY better than Jimmy and hopefully can have a career like Tom Brady. 
Based on your previous posts I am assuming that much of this is said with with your tongue in your cheek but it this is exactly the kind of thing that raises my hackles in discussions of Lance. He may indeed possess all of the qualities that some people attribute to him but at this particular point in time, December 2nd and 10:05 AM PST there is no one, no one, except maybe Kyle Shanahan, who has any real notion of what kind of Pro Lance will turn out to be. It is all conjecture, speculation and projection at this point based on a very small sample size.
The history of the NFL is littered with the broken dreams of Heisman winning QB's from big schools who have gone on to have nothing to write home about careers in the NFL. In fact it seems as though a lot of them become journeyman back-ups or are out of the league entirely within a few years. Given that, I'm not quite sure how the 'potential" of an under recruited kid from a Division II school has been elevated to the level it seems to have been among some posters. Lance is young and is in a great position to write his own NFL story but right now we are still in the prelude, we haven't even gotten to the first chapter yet. All that has happened is that we have been introduced to the character. Next year, when his story will probably start in earnest we'll all have a chance to see how it plays out. Like any fan I am hoping for the best but I will reserve judgement until I actually get to see him play for extended periods in games that matter, which seems like it should be a reasonable approach for just about anyone.
Unlike CC and Susweel, I'm an eternal optimist. Personally, I think being an optimist is harder than being a pessimist. Brains are naturally wired to be more sensitive to pain receptors than the opposite. I also find that being an optimist is actually more in line with reality than being a pessimist. How many times has my friend CC looked at the worst, predicted the worst, and it's *not* happened?
I look at Lance and Jimmy the same way. I think they are good QB's (or going to be better) and they have the potential to both be great. A lot of folks have said and continue to say Jimmy sucks, Jimmy's average, yet he continues to win. (they aren't necessarily wrong, it's just their opinions) Point being - you can look at reality in a lot of different ways. I mean how many times have you seen 49er posters - after a win - say Jimmy sucks because he didn't connect on one or two 3rd down check down pass to the FB? But the team *won* by a great margin?
I see Trey's potential, and if things break right for him, he can be a super star. BeatHard and Mullens are still in the NFL. Thats saying something about Kyle's ability to develop QB's. Both BeatHard and Mullens can't hold a candle to Trey's physical talents. Trey seems to have a great work ethic, great character, and a good mind. That's the first foundation. In the AZ game he showed some eye-opening passes, unfortunately the WR's dropped them because they weren't ready for the speed and the quickness of his delivery. On top of his arm talent, and his quick mind, he has that god given running ability. Pair that with Kyle's creativity, and ability to put together players to surround Trey with the kind of players that enhance his already formidable physical talents and the sky is the limit in my eyes. Just the fact that Trey will have Mitchell when he's QB 1 is going to a huge advantage to him. On top of having Deebo, Aiyuk, an improving Jennings, and a (relatively young OLine) if you count the two rookies from the draft this year. Oh, yeah, if he's having a bad day, I'm sure Bosa will cheer him up with a couple of turnovers for him to play with.
That's *my* opinion. Feel free to disagree. NC always says opinions are like arm-pitts, every body has 'em, and they all stink.
Covid came at the right time for Trey and the 49ers, just like Jimmy's injury came at the right time for Bosa. 
I also don't think he'll start out with a lot of struggling (by that I mean a lot of losses) because if you surround Trey with a good team, he can go directly into the playoffs. Dak Prescott would be my example of that. 
3rd and short will be impossible to stop. I remember the '94 49ers averaging almost 6 yards per play. I think the Trey offense can go beyond that level. 
