Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
I think it is more this: the whole reason to even keep Jimmy on the team after drafting Lance was to have another dominant run like 2019 with a QB who knows the system. Make a deep playoff run with Jimmy as one last hurrah and then ship him off for a first rounder, making the capital used to get Lance a little more palatable. There is no situation where a team trades away that much draft capital for a QB if they thought the current QB on the roster was the dude to take the team into the future. Keeping Jimmy was a gamble the entire time in an effort to get back some draft capital.
Given where the team is now, that seems like a plan that backfired. And then we watched Lance start against the Cardinals and he was serviceable, much like Jimmy. So the general point now is, if Jimmy is an average QB on a .500 team, why even bother continuing to start him?
just my thoughts as someone who absolutely wants Jimmy to be successful.
Yeah I can see your point for sure, but I certainly look at it a little differently. In my humble opinion, unless there is a quantifiable reason to start the rookie, you don't. Especially in shannys complicated offense (and especially with shanny as your micromanager…. I mean coach) Even using hindsight, it's safe to say we wouldn't be in a meaningfully different position with Trey as our starter. We'd be on the playoff fringe somewhere. And what would we really gain from starting him?
We've got jimmy on the team. We've admitted Trey only looked "serviceable"….. I see zero reason to start Trey this year. Like, absolute zero.
Just because we like to emphasize "you don't trade that much capital for anything other than a day one starter" it doesn't make it true. It can be true, it may be true… but it sure as f**k doesn't have to be true.
if I was Kyle I'd be doing it exactly the same way. Keep my injury blanket on the field while teaching up the rookie… all while maintaining (according to us) exactly the same record 👍🏻👍🏻
Think you and I are just two sides of the same coin
Nothing wrong with that. I completely understand your perspective and what Kyle is doing. I personally would rather move on with Trey simply because it's utterly clear the team is moving on from Jimmy. If the Niners were 10-2 right now I would be of a different opinion.
But we're all staring at a .500 team that has looked pretty bad at times, even with all the offensive firepower this team supposedly has. So Lance seems more enticing for me than watching Jimmy's middling play for a potential shot at a wildcard (now watch the team eek into the playoffs, go on a tear and take home a Lombardi, then won't I look dumb).
To maybe clear something up, the capital for Lance comment was more along the lines of how little faith making such a move shows in your current QB. Not necessarily a comment on the skill of Lance himself. Because certainly trading all that capital for Lance does not mean Lance will be a good player.
In any case, I suppose at this point I'm just exhausted of Jimmy. He plays well for stretches, goes silent for stretches, and overall as we've discussed, is mostly serviceable. I don't think he's the enormous problem some folks think he is, but I also don't think he is any sort of solution. My feelings on Jimmy are about as bland as can be at this point and I think that is a large part of the problem. Good enough to give you pause and say "maybe?" Inconsistent enough for you to say "nah, he has to go."
