Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
If he could do it all over again, he'd probably just give Trey the job from day one and focus everything on getting Trey ready to be the starter and building the offense around his skillset.
I seriously doubt that. More magical thinking from the graduates at Unicorn U.
At least graduates from Unicorn U understand that paying a QB that won't be here beyond this year 25 million to help lead the team to a 6-6 record is not ideal.
Especially since it potentially slowed down the development of the rookie QB you spent 3 first rounders on.
Plus, perhaps an offense focused on a single direction from the beginning might have started the season a little sharper than one that spent time practicing plays designed for multiple QBs that ended up not even being used and likely had little impact on how defenses prepared for us.
Well yes, I suppose in the theoretical world of University U that would make a lot if sense. But here in the real world Kyle was never going to turn the reins of his offense over to a rookie who came into the league with the LEAST amount of experience of any prospect who has been drafted that high in over 20 years. Not with a locker room full of players who thought they had a legitimate shot at getting back to the Super Bowl and were very supportive of the QB who was currently on the roster and had actually taken them to the Super Bowl the year before. There was almost no realistic scenario under which Lance would have started this year outside of Jimmy getting injured again. sorry to disappoint.
First of all, the hypothetical situation that was presented implies that Kyle is gifted the hindsight to know that going with Jimmy wasn't worth the 6-6 record and overall mediocre season that resulted.
Second, if Kyle wasn't willing to turn over his offense to the "rookie who came into the league with the LEAST amount of experience of any prospect who has been drafted that high in over 20 years", why would he be willing to turn it over to the least experienced second year QB? Trey's lack of experience as a starting QB isn't going to be solved from the bench.
Third, every team goes into the season deluding themselves about how good they can be and we were no different, but they knew that the "QB who was currently on the roster and had actually taken them to the Super Bowl" was on the way out the moment the team spent 3 first round picks to draft his replacement. This idea that they'd "revolt" if the team went with Trey from the beginning is far more fantastical than anything I've ever suggested.
Fourth, why are you acting so snotty about it? It's ok to disagree, but you don't know any better about how things would have turned out if Trey had been the focus from the beginning than I do. I have my doubts about it resulting in a worse season than we've already had. The worst case is that starting damages Trey's development, but I have a lot of doubts that that would have been the case. I trust this coaching staff to be able to put him in favorable situations, especially if he had the benefit of getting all of the starter reps from the beginning.
But we don't live in a hypothetical world do we and there are rarely any do overs in life so I don't see much value in trying to make that case.
By next year Lance will have had the benefit of two full OTAs, two full training camps, two full pre-seasons plus all of the time he spent on the practice field and running the scout team and in the film room and in the weight room and working with coaches and learning from the other players. If after all that he is still the same player he was when he got drafted then the team is in serious trouble. Fortunately I don't think that will be the case, but time will tell
That's a very simplistic argument. Sure every team starts the season with a fresh slate and dreams of glory but not every team was in the previous year's Super Bowl. And not every team had what many football types thought was a possible championship roster. I am pretty sure that no one in Jacksonville, or Jets land, or Detroit seriously thought they would really be headed to LA at the end of the year. Of all the teams going into this season I think the 49ers had a pretty good reason to think they could make a run again and I doubt that they could have been considered "deluded" for thinking so, Also I never used the word revolt, just saying that when you have a guy who is popular in the locker room and helped get your team to a recent Super Bowl you would be risking a lot by just handing the team over to a rookie that had barely played. The chemistry of this teams locker room is commented on all the time seems like something you wouldn't want to mess with unless it was absolutely necessary. Not saying it couldn't be done, but you would need to have an awful special rookie to make it work.
I don't claim to know how things would have turned out if Lance had been starting from day one, No one does. No one can know because it didn't happen. My argument has always been the same which is, given the specific circumstances of this season, Lance was never going to start this year for any reason other than an injury to Jimmy or complete and total meltdown by the team so what's the point of making all of these "if only" and "what if" arguments or assuming that Lance would somehow have been the better choice with the benefit of having seen him play only six quarters of okay football at an NFL level. He may in fact turn out to be everything the team hoped he would be when they drafted him, or he may end up being just another average NFL QB. There is simply no way to know at this point. Personally I am hoping for the former but, again, time will tell.
As to your last point it could be because I'm snotty and arrogant,but I'm only guessing.
[ Edited by 49ers81 on Dec 9, 2021 at 1:27 PM ]
