Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I am not so high on his performance against Houston as others. He had maybe 4 or 5 nice throws. Really saved by that PI which led to an easy td.

With that said, I have very low expectations next year knowing this will essentially be his rookie year. Some guys on here truly are expecting a mahommes like season and they're in for a serious disappointment.

I mean I could have said the same thing about a lot of Jimmy's games through out his time here all the same.

my expectations are him being a first yr starter at QB. Lots of highs and lows. Like just about every young QB has. I expect the team/HC to help him and this team to be competitive.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

Yeah okay lol

how about this…let see how it all plays out over the next couple yrs instead of still complaining about it a yr after the fact?

Lance is the starter and it's 2022. There's an upcoming draft/FA be cool to discuss some of that along with what might help our young QB.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Lance would easily have been the 1st overall pick in this draft. So many QB needy teams, and an otherwise crap QB class this year.

That's an opinion many have. However, I believe he would've fallen off hard with more exposure.
I think he is one of the most fortunate athletes in the last few years he didn't have a season to play in 20.
This guy was the 3rd overall pick after starting two years his whole life at qb in his life.

lol so the excuse that he was only good cuz he was playing vs weak competition would've changed if he stuck around for another season? We all know QBs tend to get worse with experience.

How many years did McCorkle start?

Originally posted by Jason:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Wait until the fourth quarter is over, then tell us what you think.

I just saw the Deebo TD. Trey has a cannon. The problem I had with that play was that the coverage was busted and Deebo flattened the rout towards the sideline (which certainly helped). While I don't think Jimmy makes that play, he does make the routine plays quite a bit more and the ball comes out much faster. I'll keep watching

So you don't think the fact that Trey who was 21 and making his 3rd start in like 2 years being on the same page with Deebo in reading wht was happening and getting the ball where Deebo could keep running is a good thing?

Personally I thought Trey's best throw in that game was one Aiyuk couldn't bring in towards the end of the half. I believe the DB was holding Aiyuk's arm so he couldn't get both hands on the ball to come down with it. Should've been a PI or TD if Aiyuk isn't interfered with imo.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jason:
I'm watching the Houston game right now (nfl game pass). I'm into the fourth quarter and it's making me nervous about next year. People saying he's already better than Jimmy aren't watching the games. I'm not saying Trey will bust, I'm saying it may not be as awesome as we all hope next year.

Dude he didn't play football in 2020, he got no legit snaps for like 6 months before getting tossed into two games with a weeks worth of 1st string reps.

He's a rookie QB. I feel like people in here have never experienced drafting a high end rookie QB and dealt with the process of all it.

FWIW outside of a couple posters, I don't think people think it's gonna be some magical Mahomes 50 TD season next yr from Lance. I expect him to improve as the season goes. I expect this team to play top end defense and run the hell out of the ball.

I am not so high on his performance against Houston as others. He had maybe 4 or 5 nice throws. Really saved by that PI which led to an easy td.

With that said, I have very low expectations next year knowing this will essentially be his rookie year. Some guys on here truly are expecting a mahommes like season and they're in for a serious disappointment.

Show one person expecting Mahomes like season?

People are bringing up Mahomes because their situations are so similar. Nobody should be expecting Mahomes like season because under Kyle Shanahan the 49ers will never pass the ball as much as KC did. Our defense should also be much better than what KC had that season. Hell that season was an outlier for Mahomes as well. He's actually gotten better but hasn't touched 40 TDs in a season let alone 50.

That's also what people claiming "he's not ready" seem to gloss over or just don't care to make stupid points.

49ers don't need Trey Lance to put up 5000 yards 50 TDs. They don't even need 4000 yards and 40 TDs, although obviously they'd gladly take either.

They were a couple of plays away from going and likely winning a SB with a QB who had 3800 yards and 20 TDs.

Trey doesn't need to carry the team. He just needs to make key plays as part of the offense and help the team win.

He is 100% ready to do that because he's got Kyle Shanahan as a coach and a very talented roster around him.

Go look at Russell Wilson's numbers when they won the SB or even when they went back and lost at the goal line the next year.

Trey will be ready to rock. It doesn't mean he's gonna be an instant all pro and that's just fine.

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by NDSU:
Your "win now" squad with Jimmy failed. So you want to stick with that. Got it.
D2 again, what a maroon.

Getting to the NFC championship game with one healthy non throwing arm is a highly successful season. Anyone who says different is a clown. The plan is working. Now time to trade Jimmy and get Trey going. Trey is ready to start his nfl career. There will be bumps, bruises, good, and bad but in the end he will successful. He's got every tool physically and mentally that is needed and an absolute phenomenal situation to grow in. Go 9ers!

NFL teams have only one goal. To win the Super Bowl. Lesser teams/fans think winning a division or getting to a Super Bowl is success.
You are the later.

Haha! how cliche of you. This isn't college football where you build a reputation get the best recruits year in year out, roll teams by 50 every week to national championships like Alabama and NDSU. By all means it's championship or bust every year in those situations good for those fans. This is big boy salary cap era NFL football. Games are decided by inches, field goals, and single digits when the worst are playing the best on a weekly basis. We rattled off 5 road wins in a row against winning playoff football teams. Beating the #1 seed in the nfc with the mvp of football and the best qb/wr tandem in the game with a massive home field advantage. Then went toe to toe with the super bowl champs. All with a very compromised qb. I can assure Jed, Kyle, Jon, and all of the players would call that a highly successful season. Disappointed? Sure any time you're that close to the ultimate your disappointed as am I, but successful none the least. Hell Trent Williams has been on record as wanting a chance to play in a playoff game past the wild card game put that into perspective. I understand high expectations and have them myself but if you are super bowl or bust every year of the nfl season you will be a highly disappointed fan. Also, if these are the expectations for Trey year in year out this thread will only become more toxic than it is. Calling me a lesser fan get f**king real.

Facts hurt. Here is your "participation" trophy.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Lance would easily have been the 1st overall pick in this draft. So many QB needy teams, and an otherwise crap QB class this year.

That's an opinion many have. However, I believe he would've fallen off hard with more exposure.
I think he is one of the most fortunate athletes in the last few years he didn't have a season to play in 20.
This guy was the 3rd overall pick after starting two years his whole life at qb in his life.

lol. Why are you still here? You're obviously not a 49ers fan.

The irony of you crapping on Trey Lance, but then swearing allegiance to Andy Dalton 2.0.

Allegiance to Mac Jones? Nah. Just 100% opposed to trading what they did for Lance. Mac is better now than Trey will ever be though. So there's that.
And to the guys mocking the comment about "starting two years at qb in his whole life" comment, Im not sure you understand. Not just his senior year in high school and 1 year in sub division cfb….he did t play qb in youth league, junior high, JV, etc. he has a fraction of the reps that pretty much every qb in history has coming into the league. That's why it was absolutely befuddling that a team who was two or three players away from Super Bowls in 3 years, traded assets and passed up getting help now traded for him.
Honestly, I think the Niners would've won the super bowl this year if they stayed out and drafted help on the o line in round one. The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

Mac Jones is dog water.

Originally posted by genus49:
Show one person expecting Mahomes like season?

People are bringing up Mahomes because their situations are so similar. Nobody should be expecting Mahomes like season because under Kyle Shanahan the 49ers will never pass the ball as much as KC did. Our defense should also be much better than what KC had that season. Hell that season was an outlier for Mahomes as well. He's actually gotten better but hasn't touched 40 TDs in a season let alone 50.

That's also what people claiming "he's not ready" seem to gloss over or just don't care to make stupid points.

49ers don't need Trey Lance to put up 5000 yards 50 TDs. They don't even need 4000 yards and 40 TDs, although obviously they'd gladly take either.

They were a couple of plays away from going and likely winning a SB with a QB who had 3800 yards and 20 TDs.

Trey doesn't need to carry the team. He just needs to make key plays as part of the offense and help the team win.

He is 100% ready to do that because he's got Kyle Shanahan as a coach and a very talented roster around him.

Go look at Russell Wilson's numbers when they won the SB or even when they went back and lost at the goal line the next year.

Trey will be ready to rock. It doesn't mean he's gonna be an instant all pro and that's just fine.

Originally posted by 91til:

Originally posted by genus49:
Show one person expecting Mahomes like season?

People are bringing up Mahomes because their situations are so similar. Nobody should be expecting Mahomes like season because under Kyle Shanahan the 49ers will never pass the ball as much as KC did. Our defense should also be much better than what KC had that season. Hell that season was an outlier for Mahomes as well. He's actually gotten better but hasn't touched 40 TDs in a season let alone 50.

That's also what people claiming "he's not ready" seem to gloss over or just don't care to make stupid points.

49ers don't need Trey Lance to put up 5000 yards 50 TDs. They don't even need 4000 yards and 40 TDs, although obviously they'd gladly take either.

They were a couple of plays away from going and likely winning a SB with a QB who had 3800 yards and 20 TDs.

Trey doesn't need to carry the team. He just needs to make key plays as part of the offense and help the team win.

He is 100% ready to do that because he's got Kyle Shanahan as a coach and a very talented roster around him.

Go look at Russell Wilson's numbers when they won the SB or even when they went back and lost at the goal line the next year.

Trey will be ready to rock. It doesn't mean he's gonna be an instant all pro and that's just fine.

I expect a Mahomes like season next year from him.

Originally posted by 91til:

Originally posted by genus49:
Show one person expecting Mahomes like season?

People are bringing up Mahomes because their situations are so similar. Nobody should be expecting Mahomes like season because under Kyle Shanahan the 49ers will never pass the ball as much as KC did. Our defense should also be much better than what KC had that season. Hell that season was an outlier for Mahomes as well. He's actually gotten better but hasn't touched 40 TDs in a season let alone 50.

That's also what people claiming "he's not ready" seem to gloss over or just don't care to make stupid points.

49ers don't need Trey Lance to put up 5000 yards 50 TDs. They don't even need 4000 yards and 40 TDs, although obviously they'd gladly take either.

They were a couple of plays away from going and likely winning a SB with a QB who had 3800 yards and 20 TDs.

Trey doesn't need to carry the team. He just needs to make key plays as part of the offense and help the team win.

He is 100% ready to do that because he's got Kyle Shanahan as a coach and a very talented roster around him.

Go look at Russell Wilson's numbers when they won the SB or even when they went back and lost at the goal line the next year.

Trey will be ready to rock. It doesn't mean he's gonna be an instant all pro and that's just fine.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Allegiance to Mac Jones? Nah. Just 100% opposed to trading what they did for Lance. Mac is better now than Trey will ever be though. So there's that.
And to the guys mocking the comment about "starting two years at qb in his whole life" comment, Im not sure you understand. Not just his senior year in high school and 1 year in sub division cfb….he did t play qb in youth league, junior high, JV, etc. he has a fraction of the reps that pretty much every qb in history has coming into the league. That's why it was absolutely befuddling that a team who was two or three players away from Super Bowls in 3 years, traded assets and passed up getting help now traded for him.
Honestly, I think the Niners would've won the super bowl this year if they stayed out and drafted help on the o line in round one. The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

So a rookie OL was going to be the difference this year?

The 49ers traded two 1sts and a 3rd. The 1st this season is 29th, which is essentially a 2nd. We just got the 3rd back for losing McDaniel. That means if we finish as a playoff contender next season, both 1sts we lost will have been late 1st round fliers. For a chance at a franchise QB, thats a no brainer. Stop acting like we destroyed our future for the Lance pick. We can get back into the 1st this year if we wanted.

Its hilarious that you, without any actual knowledge on QB's or scouting, are convinced that because he doesn't have a ton of college reps that he's automatically a bust.

Go back and watch the Texans game. If that was him with barely any snaps at QB in his life, I can't wait to see him with more reps.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Allegiance to Mac Jones? Nah. Just 100% opposed to trading what they did for Lance. Mac is better now than Trey will ever be though. So there's that.
And to the guys mocking the comment about "starting two years at qb in his whole life" comment, Im not sure you understand. Not just his senior year in high school and 1 year in sub division cfb….he did t play qb in youth league, junior high, JV, etc. he has a fraction of the reps that pretty much every qb in history has coming into the league. That's why it was absolutely befuddling that a team who was two or three players away from Super Bowls in 3 years, traded assets and passed up getting help now traded for him.
Honestly, I think the Niners would've won the super bowl this year if they stayed out and drafted help on the o line in round one. The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

, this dude talks like he's some kind of NFL draft guru, lol. Dude you don't know s**t, just like everyone else in here. We will have to wait and see what happens.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Allegiance to Mac Jones? Nah. Just 100% opposed to trading what they did for Lance. Mac is better now than Trey will ever be though. So there's that.
And to the guys mocking the comment about "starting two years at qb in his whole life" comment, Im not sure you understand. Not just his senior year in high school and 1 year in sub division cfb….he did t play qb in youth league, junior high, JV, etc. he has a fraction of the reps that pretty much every qb in history has coming into the league. That's why it was absolutely befuddling that a team who was two or three players away from Super Bowls in 3 years, traded assets and passed up getting help now traded for him.
Honestly, I think the Niners would've won the super bowl this year if they stayed out and drafted help on the o line in round one. The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

, this dude talks like he's some kind of NFL draft guru, lol. Dude you don't know s**t, just like everyone else in here. We will have to wait and see what happens.

Make too much sense, Leatha.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Allegiance to Mac Jones? Nah. Just 100% opposed to trading what they did for Lance. Mac is better now than Trey will ever be though. So there's that.
And to the guys mocking the comment about "starting two years at qb in his whole life" comment, Im not sure you understand. Not just his senior year in high school and 1 year in sub division cfb….he did t play qb in youth league, junior high, JV, etc. he has a fraction of the reps that pretty much every qb in history has coming into the league. That's why it was absolutely befuddling that a team who was two or three players away from Super Bowls in 3 years, traded assets and passed up getting help now traded for him.
Honestly, I think the Niners would've won the super bowl this year if they stayed out and drafted help on the o line in round one. The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

, this dude talks like he's some kind of NFL draft guru, lol. Dude you don't know s**t, just like everyone else in here. We will have to wait and see what happens.

Make too much sense, Leatha.

And you're right mayo, I need some damn Garoppolo trade news too

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Allegiance to Mac Jones? Nah. Just 100% opposed to trading what they did for Lance. Mac is better now than Trey will ever be though. So there's that.
And to the guys mocking the comment about "starting two years at qb in his whole life" comment, Im not sure you understand. Not just his senior year in high school and 1 year in sub division cfb….he did t play qb in youth league, junior high, JV, etc. he has a fraction of the reps that pretty much every qb in history has coming into the league. That's why it was absolutely befuddling that a team who was two or three players away from Super Bowls in 3 years, traded assets and passed up getting help now traded for him.
Honestly, I think the Niners would've won the super bowl this year if they stayed out and drafted help on the o line in round one. The deal was so egregious I barely care now.

, this dude talks like he's some kind of NFL draft guru, lol. Dude you don't know s**t, just like everyone else in here. We will have to wait and see what happens.

Make too much sense, Leatha.

And you're right mayo, I need some damn Garoppolo trade news too