Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's where he is at right now. I didn't say he doesn't have the chance for some future growth. He should be studying Justin Herbert film if he wants to be great. But that's pretty honestly where he is right NOW. It doesn't necessarily mean forever. He has a lot to improve.

Herbert has all the same issues that you think Lance has coming out of college….playing football and improving his mechanics made a world of difference. There's no point on constantly s**tting on the kid before he even gets one off season to be the starter.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Watch the games. He does all of those.

And so do every rookie QB. Shocker

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Honest evaluation of Trey Lance. As of right now.

Good

6'4" 225 lbs.

Reasonable fast.

Strong arm.

Bad

Not ready.

Doesn't know the play book.

Doesn't understand his reads.

Looks like a 4.6 guy. Not blazing or dynamic running.

Hesitant runner. Looks like he wants to curl up into a ball and hide when he sees a defender. A scared runner.

Lacks arm accuracy for this level.

Lacks ability to throw a consistent spiral. Bad at this level.

Leadership qualities unknown.

Lack of game experience in both College and the Pros.

Lol 2 games. Even Cosell today said what SF ran with him from AZ to the Texas games was compete different…he said Kyle trusted him with the playbook. Sorry dude you ain't Cosell.

That's where he is at right now. I didn't say he doesn't have the chance for some future growth. He should be studying Justin Herbert film if he wants to be great. But that's pretty honestly where he is right NOW. It doesn't necessarily mean forever. He has a lot to improve.

Come on SD you got through the late 2000s and 2010s and now you want to revert back to the infamous SD.

No reason to crown Lance. But watch every play from his first to his last and you can see the development. The spiral is an issue, along with touch, but he has all the escapability you'd want. He started actually protecting himself more and the most important part is that when he scrambles he continually has his eyes down field. He feels defenders, he doesn't have to stare at them trying to sack them.

now he needs to learn the easy plays, he keeps going for home runs. There were plenty of plays a short dump off was there but he was looking for home runs. But compare his Seattle / AZ games to the Texans and it's night and day how he carried himself and the plays called for him. Add an off-season and he may just justify what the FO saw.

Which games would you be referring to? The Arizona game where he came about 1 inch away from tying the Cardinals, who at the time were the best team in the NFL and the top defense? And he did not get to use George Kittle because he was injured? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Or should we focus on the Houston game, you know the team that absolutely obliterated Justin Herbert and made him look like absolute garbage whereas Lance looked like a stud. Even when some of you were pointing to his struggles in the first half, you do realize he was 10 for 13 throwing the ball right? Yeah real good examples. Lance had the BEST FIRST two games out of any rookie quarterback in the NFL by far.

Like I said before, Lance had to play against the best team in the NFL and a top defense at the time in his first start and still looked like he belonged Bigtime without Mostert and Kittle and he had to play Houston who destroyed San Diego the week prior and for all of you that might not be keeping up with football they whipped Cincinnati with a back up quarterback you know, the team that went to the Super Bowl and should've won? Yeah Lance was impressive in his first two starts I don't think you some of you people (sorry SD just the facts not your feelings matter) really know how to truly analyze football.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Honest evaluation of Trey Lance. As of right now.

Good

6'4" 225 lbs.

Reasonable fast.

Strong arm.

Bad

Not ready.

Doesn't know the play book.

Doesn't understand his reads.

Looks like a 4.6 guy. Not blazing or dynamic running.

Hesitant runner. Looks like he wants to curl up into a ball and hide when he sees a defender. A scared runner.

Lacks arm accuracy for this level.

Lacks ability to throw a consistent spiral. Bad at this level.

Leadership qualities unknown.

Lack of game experience in both College and the Pros.

Lol 2 games. Even Cosell today said what SF ran with him from AZ to the Texas games was compete different…he said Kyle trusted him with the playbook. Sorry dude you ain't Cosell.

Half of the "bad" are baseless assumptions.

Watch the games. He does all of those.

Originally posted by elguapo:
Which games would you be referring to? The Arizona game where he came about 1 inch away from tying the Cardinals, who at the time were the best team in the NFL and the top defense? And he did not get to use George Kittle because he was injured? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Or should we focus on the Houston game, you know the team that absolutely obliterated Justin Herbert and made him look like absolute garbage whereas Lance looked like a stud. Even when some of you were pointing to his struggles in the first half, you do realize he was 10 for 13 throwing the ball right? Yeah real good examples. Lance had the BEST FIRST two games out of any rookie quarterback in the NFL by far.

Like I said before, Lance had to play against the best team in the NFL and a top defense at the time in his first start and still looked like he belonged Bigtime without Mostert and Kittle and he had to play Houston who destroyed San Diego the week prior and for all of you that might not be keeping up with football they whipped Cincinnati with a back up quarterback you know, the team that went to the Super Bowl and should've won? Yeah Lance was impressive in his first two starts I don't think you some of you people (sorry SD just the facts not your feelings matter) really know how to truly analyze football.

Facts.

Couldn't beat out Jimmy G.

Doesn't know the play book.

Steve Young says not ready.

Joe Montana says not ready.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Facts.

Couldn't beat out Jimmy G.

Doesn't know the play book.

Steve Young says not ready.

Joe Montana says not ready.

Facts it wasn't a QB competition, not even from day 1 if you paid attention you'd know that. OH another FACT Herbert couldn't beat our Taylor and only played when the teams doctor punctured Taylor's lung.

you clearly don't know what you're watching in the Texas game….Cosell literally said today that Kyle was running his playbook with Lance.

Young said Lance should have played all yr.

FACTS. He played better against the Texans then any other rookie QB that played them this yr. That includes Wilson/Lawrence/Jones.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Facts.

Couldn't beat out Jimmy G.

Doesn't know the play book.

Steve Young says not ready.

Joe Montana says not ready.

Facts it wasn't a QB competition, not even from day 1 if you paid attention you'd know that. OH another FACT Herbert couldn't beat our Taylor and only played when the teams doctor punctured Taylor's lung.

you clearly don't know what you're watching in the Texas game….Cosell literally said today that Kyle was running his playbook with Lance.

Young said Lance should have played all yr.

But facts, right? LMAO

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Facts.

Couldn't beat out Jimmy G.

Doesn't know the play book.

Steve Young says not ready.

Joe Montana says not ready.

Facts it wasn't a QB competition, not even from day 1 if you paid attention you'd know that. OH another FACT Herbert couldn't beat our Taylor and only played when the teams doctor punctured Taylor's lung.

you clearly don't know what you're watching in the Texas game….Cosell literally said today that Kyle was running his playbook with Lance.

Young said Lance should have played all yr.

He's not ready. Too confused and hesitant. Otherwise he would start.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready. Too confused and hesitant. Otherwise he would start.

You know who was hesitant? The generational talent in Lawrence. Same with Zach Wilson. The moment Mac Jones had to play from behind he was a deer in headlights. fields had no f**king clue what he was doing. His first game was disgustingly bad. Shocker rookie QBs we're confused and hesitant in their reads…who the f**k would have thought??

it's like you've never watched a rookie QB play football before.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's not ready. Too confused and hesitant. Otherwise he would start.

You know who was hesitant? The generational talent in Lawrence. Same with Zach Wilson. The moment Mac Jones had to play from behind he was a deer in headlights. fields had no f**king clue what he was doing. His first game was disgustingly bad. Shocker rookie QBs we're confused and hesitant in their reads…who the f**k would have thought??

it's like you've never watched a rookie QB play football before.

Those guys were all STARTERS. Had no trouble learning the playbook in 1 full season. All were more successful than Lance by a lot. Fields is much more athletic if you wanted an athletic QB. Certainly faster with at least as much arm strength. A much better spiral. I would say a little more accurate.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Those guys were all STARTERS. Had no trouble learning the playbook in 1 full season. All were more successful than Lance by a lot. Fields is much more athletic if you wanted an athletic QB. Certainly faster with at least as much arm strength. A much better spiral. I would say a little more accurate.

Lol name me their backups heading into the season….or would you like me to do it for you? Jax-CJ, NJ-flacco, NE-Hoyer.

All those dudes either got all the reps from day 1 or half way through TC. They were FORCED to start.

Fields looked like absolute crap his first couple game as a starter AND he was splitting 1st team reps with Dalton. Go look at his first two games. He completed 46% and 30% of his passes. He was sacked 9 times.

Again you don't know s**t about what he did and didn't know regarding the playbook. We've been thru it. Cosell disagrees with you and so does Kyle.

You want to throw up subject takes…at the very least backup it up with legit facts or listen when someone else proves them.

My god. You can't accurately judge him on two games then only parrot what other people have said and not make plausible observations on your own.

If you'd rather be blind to the improvement he had from his first game to his second game then defer to your confirmation bias because so and so said he's not ready then there's no point saying anything in here. He looked plenty ready to keep the 49ers in the playoff hunt, and he did.

I just can't wait for the season to start so he has his chance to shut up all these idiodic takes. Maybe then you guys will come back to the bandwagon. I'll continue to support whoever our QB1 is whether it was JTOsullivan or Troy Smith but at least now we get a chance to piece together a unique QB prospect that we haven't had in forever and cause a ruckus in the league.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Honest evaluation of Trey Lance. As of right now.

Good

6'4" 225 lbs.

Reasonable fast.

Strong arm.

Bad

Not ready.

Doesn't know the play book.

Doesn't understand his reads.

Looks like a 4.6 guy. Not blazing or dynamic running.

Hesitant runner. Looks like he wants to curl up into a ball and hide when he sees a defender. A scared runner.

Lacks arm accuracy for this level.

Lacks ability to throw a consistent spiral. Bad at this level.

Leadership qualities unknown.

Lack of game experience in both College and the Pros.

Lol 2 games. Even Cosell today said what SF ran with him from AZ to the Texas games was compete different…he said Kyle trusted him with the playbook. Sorry dude you ain't Cosell.

Half of the "bad" are baseless assumptions.

Watch the games. He does all of those.

Wow if most fans were like SD no QB would have a shot to be successful. Thank god he doesn't coach. I wonder what his rendition of Allen and Mahomes would have been their rookie years

We all know San Diego is completely wrong especially when he references two quarterbacks that haven't played the game in over 20 years when they aren't analysts as his evidence

Every rookie quarterback isn't ready and hardly any of them had a quarterback like Jimmy Garoppolo as the starter. So the arguments are so flawed it's laughable.

Just ignore him, he's wrong plain and simple. Also, of course he won't acknowledge that Lance had the best first two starts when compared to ALL the other rookie qbs.