Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Which games would you be referring to? The Arizona game where he came about 1 inch away from tying the Cardinals, who at the time were the best team in the NFL and the top defense? And he did not get to use George Kittle because he was injured? Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

Or should we focus on the Houston game, you know the team that absolutely obliterated Justin Herbert and made him look like absolute garbage whereas Lance looked like a stud. Even when some of you were pointing to his struggles in the first half, you do realize he was 10 for 13 throwing the ball right? Yeah real good examples. Lance had the BEST FIRST two games out of any rookie quarterback in the NFL by far.

Like I said before, Lance had to play against the best team in the NFL and a top defense at the time in his first start and still looked like he belonged Bigtime without Mostert and Kittle and he had to play Houston who destroyed San Diego the week prior and for all of you that might not be keeping up with football they whipped Cincinnati with a back up quarterback you know, the team that went to the Super Bowl and should've won? Yeah Lance was impressive in his first two starts I don't think you some of you people (sorry SD just the facts not your feelings matter) really know how to truly analyze football.

Facts.

Couldn't beat out Jimmy G.

Doesn't know the play book.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I agree with everything SanDiego49ers said.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I agree with everything SanDiego49ers said.

It's true.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I agree with everything SanDiego49ers said.

This. Wasn't a fan of his takes back in the day, but he's been spot on lately

That's right.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I agree with everything SanDiego49ers said.

This. Wasn't a fan of his takes back in the day, but he's been spot on lately

He must've been sarcastic right?

Nope, SD is right. But Trey Cultist gonna be Trey Cultist

Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Some weird Qnanon sh*t just erupted in the Lance thread…

Jimmy is average and being replaced by a relatively unknown and promising young guy who has the attributes necessary to actually win it all. And we won't know whether he'll be up to the challenge for awhile or ever, but we should expect him to at least match Jimmy's level of play in year one.
….
aka cultist.

• Film junkie with high football IQ and an NFL frame.
• Makes calls to set his own protections.
• Bouncy feet for accelerated pocket setups.
• Play-fake aficionado from under center, causing defenders to consistently bite.
• Passing scheme encourages full-field reads.
• Processes progressions very quickly and can work to his fourth read when protected.
• Able to mentally recalibrate his attack when play comes off schedule.
• Taking care of the football is a priority for him.
• Rarely takes bait against zone defenders and safeties looking to pounce.
• Compact, twitchy release partially mitigates his windup.Makes attempt to throw targets away from coverage.
• Adequate anticipation on timing routes.
• Makes quality touch throws into sideline buckets and over linebackers.
• Knows his way around pocket and can make sudden escapes.
• Above-average speed, athleticism and power when he's on the move as a runner.
• Able to move the chains in a variety of ways.

• Highly inexperienced with just 318 pass attempts under his belt.
• Needs to get his slide game up and minimize collisions as a runner.

• Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup).
• Lightning release quickness.
  Urgent decision maker.
• Sells play-action.
  Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield.
  Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open.
  Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket.
  Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball.
• Will deliver the ball looking down the barrell of a gun.
  Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up.
  Highly competitiveSmart, respected, vocal team leader.
  Very durable, experienced, four-year starterGood football intelligence.

• Does not rip the deep out or drive the ball with high RPMs.
• Undershoots and often hangs the deep ball.
• Makes receivers work for the ball downfield and deep accuracy could stand to improve.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Interesting to see both Jimmy's and Trey's draft assessment from NFL.com.

Trey was rated to be a good 2nd year starter which bodes well for this season.

The rating for Jimmy proved to be too low as he panned out to be an average starter (6.20-6.29). But overall pretty accurate assessments.

Trey Lance

Prospect Grade

6.47

Will Become Good Starter Within Two Years

Strengths

• Film junkie with high football IQ and an NFL frame.
• Makes calls to set his own protections.
• Bouncy feet for accelerated pocket setups.
• Play-fake aficionado from under center, causing defenders to consistently bite.
• Passing scheme encourages full-field reads.
• Processes progressions very quickly and can work to his fourth read when protected.
• Able to mentally recalibrate his attack when play comes off schedule.
• Taking care of the football is a priority for him.
• Rarely takes bait against zone defenders and safeties looking to pounce.
• Compact, twitchy release partially mitigates his windup.Makes attempt to throw targets away from coverage.
• Adequate anticipation on timing routes.
• Makes quality touch throws into sideline buckets and over linebackers.
• Knows his way around pocket and can make sudden escapes.
• Above-average speed, athleticism and power when he's on the move as a runner.
• Able to move the chains in a variety of ways.

Weaknesses

• Highly inexperienced with just 318 pass attempts under his belt.
• Needs to get his slide game up and minimize collisions as a runner.

Jimmy Garappolo

Prospect Grade

5.90

Average Backup Or Special-Teamer

Strengths

• Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup).
• Lightning release quickness.
  Urgent decision maker.
• Sells play-action.
  Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield.
  Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open.
  Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket.
  Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball.
• Will deliver the ball looking down the barrell of a gun.
  Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up.
  Highly competitiveSmart, respected, vocal team leader.
  Very durable, experienced, four-year starterGood football intelligence.

Weaknesses

• Does not rip the deep out or drive the ball with high RPMs.
• Undershoots and often hangs the deep ball.
• Makes receivers work for the ball downfield and deep accuracy could stand to improve.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Good to see if we keep JG he could potentially give us an average backup or a boost to special teams.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Good to see if we keep JG he could potentially give us an average backup or a boost to special teams.

He's better than that. Definitely an average starter bridge QB who will help turn around a franchise and mentor a young stud ala Alex Smith.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Interesting to see both Jimmy's and Trey's draft assessment from NFL.com.

Trey was rated to be a good 2nd year starter which bodes well for this season.

The rating for Jimmy proved to be too low as he panned out to be an average starter (6.20-6.29). But overall pretty accurate assessments.

Trey Lance

Prospect Grade

6.47

Will Become Good Starter Within Two Years

Strengths

• Film junkie with high football IQ and an NFL frame.
• Makes calls to set his own protections.
• Bouncy feet for accelerated pocket setups.
• Play-fake aficionado from under center, causing defenders to consistently bite.
• Passing scheme encourages full-field reads.
• Processes progressions very quickly and can work to his fourth read when protected.
• Able to mentally recalibrate his attack when play comes off schedule.
• Taking care of the football is a priority for him.
• Rarely takes bait against zone defenders and safeties looking to pounce.
• Compact, twitchy release partially mitigates his windup.Makes attempt to throw targets away from coverage.
• Adequate anticipation on timing routes.
• Makes quality touch throws into sideline buckets and over linebackers.
• Knows his way around pocket and can make sudden escapes.
• Above-average speed, athleticism and power when he's on the move as a runner.
• Able to move the chains in a variety of ways.

Weaknesses

• Highly inexperienced with just 318 pass attempts under his belt.
• Needs to get his slide game up and minimize collisions as a runner.

Jimmy Garappolo

Prospect Grade

5.90

Average Backup Or Special-Teamer

Strengths

• Has a very quick trigger and good wrist snap that translates to a smooth throwing motion and clean, compact delivery (no windup).
• Lightning release quickness.
  Urgent decision maker.
• Sells play-action.
  Athletic enough to slide in the pocket and buy time with his feet while keeping his eyes downfield.
  Good anticipation -- throws his receivers open.
  Can change ball speeds and drop it in a bucket.
  Does not take unnecessary sacks and will dump the ball.
• Will deliver the ball looking down the barrell of a gun.
  Tough-minded and poised in the pocket -- can withstand a hit and pop back up.
  Highly competitiveSmart, respected, vocal team leader.
  Very durable, experienced, four-year starterGood football intelligence.

Weaknesses

• Does not rip the deep out or drive the ball with high RPMs.
• Undershoots and often hangs the deep ball.
• Makes receivers work for the ball downfield and deep accuracy could stand to improve.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I agree with everything SanDiego49ers said.

This. Wasn't a fan of his takes back in the day, but he's been spot on lately

He must've been sarcastic right?

Nope, SD is right. But Trey Cultist gonna be Trey Cultist

"Trey's got the whole playbook in his head. He was able to do that in training camp." — Kyle Shanahan

"Doesn't know the playbook." — SanDiego49er

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
I agree with everything SanDiego49ers said.

This. Wasn't a fan of his takes back in the day, but he's been spot on lately

He must've been sarcastic right?

Nope, SD is right. But Trey Cultist gonna be Trey Cultist

"Trey's got the whole playbook in his head. He was able to do that in training camp." — Kyle Shanahan

"Doesn't know the playbook." — SanDiego49er

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