Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
That's correct. Joe Montana said Trey Lance is not ready. Which he is not.

Joe Montana hasn't watched anything on Lance let alone gone to a single practice. This has been pointed out to you a dozen times

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Jimmy contract looked like a massive disaster movie two weeks ago.



Now



ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Just like his trade value

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
If he could play he would play. But so far he hasn't. Joe Montana said he's not ready. So he is not ready as of right now.

He did play and went 1-1 with next to no reps. He had 7 TDs and 2 INTs in 70 passing attempts. No one cares what a QB from 30 yrs ago has to say about today's QB. Joe doesn't give a s**t about SF or this team. He doesn't go to practices and isn't watching film on anything. I need to just block you at this pt. SF tried trading Jimmy for a reason…I heard Joe love Matt Flynn lol

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Maybe they should start putting out some media or practice film to start getting the fan base excited about him soon.

Too busy trying to negotiate a bologna sandwich out of some other GM as compensation for taking on Jimmy's contract.

Hahaha. Can't even get some wunder bar bologna for him

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Jimmy contract looked like a massive disaster movie two weeks ago.



Now



ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

What's this? LOL.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Lance can't even carry Mahomes jock strap out to the field.

Lance doesnt need to, you seem to be doing it just fine.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Right. That's why no rookie should play. It worked out for joe. He won a super bowl in year three with ricky patton earl cooper lenvil elliot and charlie young carrying the load.of course joe worked for true pass game genius who invemted the foundations of modern possession passing. So there's that.

Peyton Manning 'shouldn'tve' played in 1998?

My point exactly. No.

Ben Roethlisberger went 15-1 in his rookie year and won an SB in his 2nd year.

Before his arrival, the Steelers were perennial contenders with excellent defenses, run games, and skill players who couldn't get over the hump because of mediocre QB play. Sounds familiar.

Trey was drafted to get the Niners over the hump, if he isn't ready then it's not go back to Jimmy, it's ship both QBs out & bring in Brady to finally get ring #6.

But that isn't the case, Trey is prepared to start and run Shanahan's offense.

Here's a comparison of Jimmy's 3rd year stats that made him a hot commodity vs. Lance's rookie year.

Jimmy Year 3:

43-63 68.3% for 504 yards and 4 tds and no int. 113.3 QB rating.

2-0* against 7-8-1 Cardinals and 10-6 Dolphins

*injured shoulder in 3rd quarter of Dolphins game and missed the next 2 games of Brady's suspension.

Lance Year 1:

41-71 57.7% 604 yards 5 tds 2 ints 2 running tds 97.3 QB rating

2.5 games against 7-10 Seahawks, 11-6 Cardinals, and 4-13 Texans. 1-1 starter record.

Claiming Lance isn't ready and that rookies shouldn't play, goes against evidence to the contrary.

If you say boss

Whatever, don't make weak arguments that can easily be shot down.

I see.

you pick the one qb who has won a super bowl in his second year in the past century and you have "easily" eviscerated my "weak" argument that almost without exception rookie qb's would improve their career development by sitting their first year.

No flies on you.

Other posters have also cited Russell Wilson and Joe Burrows. Mahommes could arguably be added to that list, he was ready day 1.

There's a lot of variables that determine a rookie QBs success, most notably the roster around them, coaching, and how familiar they are with the new scheme.

There's a precedence for successful rookie QBs who go on to win the SB in year 2 & 3.

The point is mute as Trey is in his second year. If you look at Brady or Kaep, they sat almost their entire rookies years, but took their teams to the SB on year 2.

That's the expectation for Trey as he was drafted to put the team over the top.

If you believe otherwise then provide credible support, otherwise you're making stuff up to suit whatever bias you may have.

"Precedent"?

You mean "exceptions that prove the rule."

Here's the article that lays out the age of starting qb's in the super bowl. Very interesting

It's proves beyond a doubt its more likely for an iceberg to hit the earth than trey to win the super bowl at his age.

He would be a full !!!!--->1+<-----!!!!!! years younger than roethlesburger at the time of next years super bowl!!!

Big Ben was the youngest player in the history of the NFL to win a super bowl.

TREY IS 21-320+ DAYS OLD NOW!!!!!!! PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE AND LISTEN TO REASON.

He needs to learn and not be rushed. And, yeah, it's a great thing he sat last year. Best favor we could have done him.

It's chimerical to talk about "second year guys" without taking into account their chronological age.

Not only were they all three years older than trey, they had a heck of a lot more snaps under their belt.

None of this has to actually do with the original point that it's better to sit than play your rookie year.

I just think that guys who start early and take it on the chin like aikman, jones, manning Luck etc all could have had higher career trajectories if they didn't start so early.

I put burrow in that category too, who is getting beat to s**t.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Lance can't even carry Mahomes jock strap out to the field.

Lance doesnt need to, you seem to be doing it just fine.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Hard to turn down trade offers when they aren't any…the fact that they traded 3 1sts for his replacement and have been trying to move him should be a enough for even bias Jimmy fans to understand the truth of the matter. It's dumb to even try to deny the reality of the situation.

I don't think anyone wants nor expects Jimmy to be the long term answer he may be our best option. Trey might not be better than him yet. The 9ers are ready for the Lance era but if we can't get anything for Jimmy it might not be such a ludicrous idea to keep him as insurance and let them battle in training camp.

If Jimmy has a better camp then I say give him the job and hope Lance takes the reigns later in the year

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
What's this? LOL.

minilla godzilla

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Right. That's why no rookie should play. It worked out for joe. He won a super bowl in year three with ricky patton earl cooper lenvil elliot and charlie young carrying the load.of course joe worked for true pass game genius who invemted the foundations of modern possession passing. So there's that.

Peyton Manning 'shouldn'tve' played in 1998?

My point exactly. No.

Ben Roethlisberger went 15-1 in his rookie year and won an SB in his 2nd year.

Before his arrival, the Steelers were perennial contenders with excellent defenses, run games, and skill players who couldn't get over the hump because of mediocre QB play. Sounds familiar.

Trey was drafted to get the Niners over the hump, if he isn't ready then it's not go back to Jimmy, it's ship both QBs out & bring in Brady to finally get ring #6.

But that isn't the case, Trey is prepared to start and run Shanahan's offense.

Here's a comparison of Jimmy's 3rd year stats that made him a hot commodity vs. Lance's rookie year.

Jimmy Year 3:

43-63 68.3% for 504 yards and 4 tds and no int. 113.3 QB rating.

2-0* against 7-8-1 Cardinals and 10-6 Dolphins

*injured shoulder in 3rd quarter of Dolphins game and missed the next 2 games of Brady's suspension.

Lance Year 1:

41-71 57.7% 604 yards 5 tds 2 ints 2 running tds 97.3 QB rating

2.5 games against 7-10 Seahawks, 11-6 Cardinals, and 4-13 Texans. 1-1 starter record.

Claiming Lance isn't ready and that rookies shouldn't play, goes against evidence to the contrary.

If you say boss

Whatever, don't make weak arguments that can easily be shot down.

I see.

you pick the one qb who has won a super bowl in his second year in the past century and you have "easily" eviscerated my "weak" argument that almost without exception rookie qb's would improve their career development by sitting their first year.

No flies on you.

Other posters have also cited Russell Wilson and Joe Burrows. Mahommes could arguably be added to that list, he was ready day 1.

There's a lot of variables that determine a rookie QBs success, most notably the roster around them, coaching, and how familiar they are with the new scheme.

There's a precedence for successful rookie QBs who go on to win the SB in year 2 & 3.

The point is mute as Trey is in his second year. If you look at Brady or Kaep, they sat almost their entire rookies years, but took their teams to the SB on year 2.

That's the expectation for Trey as he was drafted to put the team over the top.

If you believe otherwise then provide credible support, otherwise you're making stuff up to suit whatever bias you may have.

"Precedent"?

You mean "exceptions that prove the rule."

Here's the article that lays out the age of starting qb's in the super bowl. Very interesting

It's proves beyond a doubt its more likely for an iceberg to hit the earth than trey to win the super bowl at his age.

He would be a full !!!!--->1+<-----!!!!!! years younger than roethlesburger at the time of next years super bowl!!!

Big Ben was the youngest player in the history of the NFL to win a super bowl.

TREY IS 21-320+ DAYS OLD NOW!!!!!!! PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE AND LISTEN TO REASON.

He needs to learn and not be rushed. And, yeah, it's a great thing he sat last year. Best favor we could have done him.

It's chimerical to talk about "second year guys" without taking into account their chronological age.

Not only were they all three years older than trey, they had a heck of a lot more snaps under their belt.

None of this has to actually do with the original point that it's better to sit than play your rookie year.

I just think that guys who start early and take it on the chin like aikman, jones, manning Luck etc all could have had higher career trajectories if they didn't start so early.

I put burrow in that category too, who is getting beat to s**t.

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The age of a QB is irrelevant, it's the player's maturity level and playing experience that matters, that and the supporting roster and coaching.

And again, he was drafted with the expectation of immediately leading a talented veteran team to a SB.

Shanahan and Lynch obviously don't share your opinion on how to develop a young QB.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Hard to turn down trade offers when they aren't any…the fact that they traded 3 1sts for his replacement and have been trying to move him should be a enough for even bias Jimmy fans to understand the truth of the matter. It's dumb to even try to deny the reality of the situation.

I don't think anyone wants nor expects Jimmy to be the long term answer he may be our best option. Trey might not be better than him yet. The 9ers are ready for the Lance era but if we can't get anything for Jimmy it might not be such a ludicrous idea to keep him as insurance and let them battle in training camp.

If Jimmy has a better camp then I say give him the job and hope Lance takes the reigns later in the year

What's the point of a camp battle? We know Jimmy isn't good enough, so why even let him steal reps from Trey? The notion that Trey must be definitively better than Jimmy by training camp with just 2 career starts under his belt is flawed to begin with. We've seen Jimmy's ceiling and we know he's not good enough. Now the FO is banking on what they believe Trey can become, but he's far from his peak right now which is understandable since he hasn't played. His development will be delayed or he might not get there at all if we don't start going all in on him and give him every starter rep going forward.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Lance can't even carry Mahomes jock strap out to the field.

Lance doesnt need to, you seem to be doing it just fine.

They gave up 3 first round picks for him. Yes he does, lol.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Maybe they should start putting out some media or practice film to start getting the fan base excited about him soon.

Too busy trying to negotiate a bologna sandwich out of some other GM as compensation for taking on Jimmy's contract.

ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Jimmy contract looked like a massive disaster movie two weeks ago.



Now



ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

What the?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Mahomes is 1,000 times more accurate and he can throw a spiral. Stop with the Mahomes stuff. Lance can't even carry Mahomes jock strap out to the field.

And before Mahomes stepped on an NFL field people were probally saying the samething about him. Here is some news that might be a shocker. Every QB is unproven until they are. When Rodgers had his 1st game, People would have said it's rediculous if anybody believes he will be a top 5 QB in this game. When Brady took over for Bledsoe, People didn't think he was going to be elite. There is not a single QB in the history of this game you can say was ready when they 1st stepped on an NFLfield.