Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
For one Lynch never made the claim there was two seconds offered for a trade, that was for the most part an unsubstantiated report.

and this isn't madden you can't just switch your qb right before playoffs especially for a rookie. The team was more used to playing with Jimmy. If jimmy could ply he was playing.

And finally he has the whole off-season to be better prepared this year where he was at the end of last year has no bearing on where he will be the start of this year.

You can if your starting qb is injured with a broken thumb and throwing shoulder. Look at Kaepernick and Alex Smith, Trent Green with Kurt Warner, or Tom Brady with Drew Bledsoe,

I'm not a fan of Jimmy but I don't think we have to get rid of him if he's willing to stay nor do we have to start Trey.
Not saying he's not durable but Lance hurt his throwing hand and spained his knee in the little playing time he did have. It might be wise to try and keep both for one more season

They already gave two million guaranteed to our backup.

Jimmy's locker is long cleared out. He's gone. He's never going to come back. Let go.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
It's not stunting his growth. It's WASTING valuable seasons in which he's on a rookie contract. So many people want to play Jimmy while our roster is loaded, then play Lance with only a year or 2 left on his rookie deal. Those years will still consist of the same growing pains he will have now. No. Get that over with and take advantage of the kid while he's cheap. He won't be for long.

Oh I get that and thats a good way of putting it "growing pains" but we are in contention with a wide open NFC if Lance isn't there yet we have the opportunity not to rush him and we should take advantage of it if thats the case. We've positioned our selfs to be able to keep Garoppolo and either way what money we do save from moving on from him will be going straight to Bosa next year. Getting rid of Garoppolo isn't a must and gives us good insurance at qb. I just wonder if Garoppolo would be willing to stay given the situation

Have you seen what the AFC has done this offseason? AFC West in particular? Do you really feel confident trotting Jimmy out there against those teams? Trey may not be at a point this year to dominate them, but without this year, he wouldn't next year either. We need a QB who can take over games. If a year of trial by fire is what it takes, LFG!

Originally posted by 9erson3:
They already gave two million guaranteed to our backup.

Jimmy's locker is long cleared out. He's gone. He's never going to come back. Let go.

Not going to hurt my feelings if he is gone, I'd be more excited to see Lance start, im just making the point keeping both if possible might be smart

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
For one Lynch never made the claim there was two seconds offered for a trade, that was for the most part an unsubstantiated report.

and this isn't madden you can't just switch your qb right before playoffs especially for a rookie. The team was more used to playing with Jimmy. If jimmy could ply he was playing.

And finally he has the whole off-season to be better prepared this year where he was at the end of last year has no bearing on where he will be the start of this year.

You can if your starting qb is injured with a broken thumb and throwing shoulder. Look at Kaepernick and Alex Smith, Trent Green with Kurt Warner, or Tom Brady with Drew Bledsoe,

I'm not a fan of Jimmy but I don't think we have to get rid of him if he's willing to stay nor do we have to start Trey.
Not saying he's not durable but Lance hurt his throwing hand and spained his knee in the little playing time he did have. It might be wise to try and keep both for one more season

Those situations happened either near the beginning of the season or in the middle not right before the playoffs. It takes time to get used to new qbs not just the players themselves but the team around them as well takes adjusting.

This isn't the 80s anymore where you can have Joe Montana and Steve Young as your qb room. There's a salary cap and you have to use money efficiently, you can't just have 25 mil just sitting on the bench. That money means something and even if it doesn't get spent in this free agency it rolls over the year and can be used elsewhere.

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
Those situations happened either near the beginning of the season or in the middle not right before the playoffs. It takes time to get used to new qbs not just the players themselves but the team around them as well takes adjusting.

This isn't the 80s anymore where you can have Joe Montana and Steve Young as your qb room. There's a salary cap and you have to use money efficiently, you can't just have 25 mil just sitting on the bench. That money means something and even if it doesn't get spent in this free agency it rolls over the year and can be used elsewhere.

Actually both Brady and Kaepernick took over later in the season and took there team to the superbowl. Thats besides my point there have been multiple instances where teams switch qbs and find success so why didn't we do that when Garoppolo was injured if Trey is ready?

Exactly that 25 mil will be going to Bosa next year either way. Think we'll have the answer draft night if jimmy isn't gone after that I wouldn't be surprised if he starts week 1 and some how ironically gets injured late in the season and Trey takes us to the superbowl...

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Lance can't even carry Mahomes jock strap out to the field.

Lance doesnt need to, you seem to be doing it just fine.

They gave up 3 first round picks for him. Yes he does, lol.

Meh only gave up two additional first round picks for him. Would have had to use the 2021 1st on him anyways.

Also, the fact the 2022 1st is pick #29 is significant in terms of what we ultimately gave up. If the 2023 1st is in the mid-high 20s then there is much less pressure for Trey as those picks are almost 2nd rounders with no guarantee we'd get a great player from them.

If Trey busts we will know by the 2024 draft and will be picking high and can go to the well again on finding a franchise QB.

Originally posted by Since07:
Actually both Brady and Kaepernick took over later in the season and took there team to the superbowl. Thats besides my point there have been multiple instances where teams switch qbs and find success so why didn't we do that when Garoppolo was injured if Trey is ready?

That is demonstrably false lol Tom Brady took over in week 2 while Kaepernick took over in week 10 aka that's a h*ll of a difference compared to week 18 near the playoffs. That and they were both second year guys who were already in the nfl for a year nor rookies and I already said that you can't just plug qbs in and call it good especially when it was so close to the playoffs it takes time to adjust to different qbs especially when their play styles are so different.

and I highly doubt we move jimmy on draft day I fully expect him to be cut when he's medically cleared and that'll probably happen in June/ July. If they get something for great but I'm not expecting it.

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
That is demonstrably false lol Tom Brady took over in week 2 while Kaepernick took over in week 10 aka that's a h*ll of a difference compared to week 18 near the playoffs. That and they were both second year guys who were already in the nfl for a year nor rookies and I already said that you can't just plug qbs in and call it good especially when it was so close to the playoffs it takes time to adjust to different qbs especially when their play styles are so different.

and I highly doubt we move jimmy on draft day I fully expect him to be cut when he's medically cleared and that'll probably happen in June/ July. If they get something for great but I'm not expecting it.

You're still losing my point either way... So you're saying we played Jimmy with a torn ligament in his thumb and shoulder whilst delaying his surgery over starting Lance because you can't" switch qbs?

Originally posted by 9erson3:
We don't know the future but I just can't imagine any fan not being excited out of their mind for what's coming. What we do know, he has an awesome tight family. We know he's damn mature for his age. He's seems more humble than cocky.

We know the short time at NDSU he kicked ass. We know NDSU does a hell of a lot to prepare their QBs for the NFL. We know all the people b***hing here how Kyle didn't do his QB homework in the past. We know last year he did and he was head over heels with Trey Lance. You wanted home work well here ya go.

I just don't see how any fan can't be excited out of their mind but hell I don't know how the Jimmy thread holds up. It's sick really. If that's the best you can hope for at QB save us all. Either dudes are sold on looks and face of franchise but that can't be.

I periodically watch the pick 3 in the draft and get goose bumps. The NFC is so not even at the AFC level we should be in great shape.

Trey should be a stud. End of the road for years. Long after Jimmy takes his money and marches into the sun set.

This thread has been utterly ridiculous most of the off-season, but this is the way.

I for one am more impressed with the way he carries himself and what appears to be going on upstairs, than I am with his considerable talent. Sky is the limit.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
My point exactly. No.

I don't get your point then. Manning himself believes starting as a rookie and learning on the job was the best thing for him.....and he went to a team that 'earned' that #1 overall pick. Are you saying that Manning is wrong to believe that?

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
My point exactly. No.

I don't get your point then. Manning himself believes starting as a rookie and learning on the job was the best thing for him.....and he went to a team that 'earned' that #1 overall pick. Are you saying that Manning is wrong to believe that?

It's the microwave society, they'd rather stick something in for 4 mins, quick, simple but poor quality.

Proper chefs and fans know the benefit of taking time over things, marinating and slow cooking and enjoying that deep sweet flavour.

With Trey we may be worse for 4,8 or even 17 games, but we'll be much better for 15 years after that.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
It's the microwave society, they'd rather stick something in for 4 mins, quick, simple but poor quality.

Proper chefs and fans know the benefit of taking time over things, marinating and slow cooking and enjoying that deep sweet flavour.

With Trey we may be worse for 4,8 or even 17 games, but we'll be much better for 15 years after that.

I had no issues with Lance sitting the whole season, nor would I had any problems if he was the Day 1 starter. I can see arguments for both sides, but it all comes down to the player himself. As an outsider, I'm not gonna comment too much specifically on the Trey Lance/Jimmy Garoppolo situation from the past year....but there is no question that Lance needs to start now.

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
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The age of a QB is irrelevant, it's the player's maturity level and playing experience that matters, that and the supporting roster and coaching.

And again, he was drafted with the expectation of immediately leading a talented veteran team to a SB.

Shanahan and Lynch obviously don't share your opinion on how to develop a young QB.

The age of a qb is irrelevant? The article shows that couldn't be more wrong.

We took lance because he was available. No one else with physical for the next two years. Now we have to mark time until he can win for us.

Kaep was 25 in 2012.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
My point exactly. No.

I don't get your point then. Manning himself believes starting as a rookie and learning on the job was the best thing for him.....and he went to a team that 'earned' that #1 overall pick. Are you saying that Manning is wrong to believe that?

Not gonna argue with manning on what he believes was best for him. But for other guys i still feel you must have the mentality to avoid throwing 28 picks at all costs. I think thats a good mentality to syart with in fulfilling your full potential.