Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Amazing how casually people make Mahomes- Lance comparisons because of the similar situations of the teams who drafted them.

Lance is bigger and faster than Mahomes. From a throwing the football perspective... they are not comparable. Mahomes is and was tiers above Lance in terms of arm talent. Lance won't ever be Mahomes with his current mechanics. And then of course there is the difference in experience, which is massive.

The people who are crowning Lance as an elite QB already (or an elite QB in waiting), against readily available evidence, are the first ones who will turn against him, and definitely Kyle, if/when he isn't elevating this Super Bowl ready team immediately. It won't be his fault of course. The fan expectations are through the roof simply because of fan loyalty and because of the cost paid in drafting him... and the timing for his development in conjunction with our SB window could not be worse. This was obvious last year.

There's a prediction a few pages back of Lance throwing 46 TDs and 11 INTs next season, lol. I mean JFC.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Amazing how casually people make Mahomes- Lance comparisons because of the similar situations of the teams who drafted them.

Lance is bigger and faster than Mahomes. From a throwing the football perspective... they are not comparable. Mahomes is and was tiers above Lance in terms of arm talent. Lance won't ever be Mahomes with his current mechanics. And then of course there is the difference in experience, which is massive.

The people who are crowning Lance as an elite QB already (or an elite QB in waiting), against readily available evidence, are the first ones who will turn against him, and definitely Kyle, if/when he isn't elevating this Super Bowl ready team immediately. It won't be his fault of course. The fan expectations are through the roof simply because of fan loyalty and because of the cost paid in drafting him... and the timing for his development in conjunction with our SB window could not be worse. This was obvious last year.

There's a prediction a few pages back of Lance throwing 46 TDs and 11 INTs next season, lol. I mean JFC.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
This what I'm talkin bout! LFG!!

He ain't ready. #FTTT #FTTB pic.twitter.com/3jtADScpya

— Faithful to the Trey (@FaithfulTrey) March 31, 2022

I'm pretty sure those clips are from last year lol.

So, can't get excited?

this thread needs more Lance clips and less Jimmy talk.

Who said you can't get excited?

What was the point of your post?

To point out that the clips you posted were from a year ago? Was it your intention to mislead people into thinking that those were recent clips?

So, you were trying to tame excitement, with that irrelevant comment. I figured.

Plus, who gives a f**k when it was taken? No one is trying to mislead anyone.

I see you're still trying to find drama anywhere you can, huh. Only you can take a positive post about Lance and turn it negative Lol

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We'd be in a better position to compete in 2022 if Lance had played more last year. Jimmy was nothing special in 2021 and there's no reason to believe we couldn't have had similar success if Lance had started more games.

That's especially true for the playoffs where we made the NFCG despite Jimmy literally being statistically one of the worst playoff QBs of all time. Injuries aren't even an excuse for Jimmy's performance because he was equally as bad in 2019. He just isn't mentally strong enough for playoff football. Jimmy could not have taken NDSU to an FCS championship.

More Jimmy talk in Lance thread...

That post is entirely about Lance and how we delayed his development for no gain.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

You saw him play a full preseason, 2 spot starts, and the better part of a 3rd game.

If you saw anything in that play to believe he's a top tier starting QB in the NFL waiting to explode when given the opportunity, I'll have what you're having. He could not be trusted more than an injured sub-par Jimmy G. His play showed he needs a ton of work, and time. That really is ok... except for the fact that we can win right now.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We'd be in a better position to compete in 2022 if Lance had played more last year. Jimmy was nothing special in 2021 and there's no reason to believe we couldn't have had similar success if Lance had started more games.

That's especially true for the playoffs where we made the NFCG despite Jimmy literally being statistically one of the worst playoff QBs of all time. Injuries aren't even an excuse for Jimmy's performance because he was equally as bad in 2019. He just isn't mentally strong enough for playoff football. Jimmy could not have taken NDSU to an FCS championship.

More Jimmy talk in Lance thread...

That post is entirely about Lance and how we delayed his development for no gain.

Garbage.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Amazing how casually people make Mahomes- Lance comparisons because of the similar situations of the teams who drafted them.

Lance is bigger and faster than Mahomes. From a throwing the football perspective... they are not comparable. Mahomes is and was tiers above Lance in terms of arm talent. Lance won't ever be Mahomes with his current mechanics. And then of course there is the difference in experience, which is massive.

The people who are crowning Lance as an elite QB already (or an elite QB in waiting), against readily available evidence, are the first ones who will turn against him, and definitely Kyle, if/when he isn't elevating this Super Bowl ready team immediately. It won't be his fault of course. The fan expectations are through the roof simply because of fan loyalty and because of the cost paid in drafting him... and the timing for his development in conjunction with our SB window could not be worse. This was obvious last year.

There's a prediction a few pages back of Lance throwing 46 TDs and 11 INTs next season, lol. I mean JFC.

What other option do we have than to be optimistic about Lance's development? You keep saying this is a SB ready team, but no team is SB ready without a QB and our only two options at that position are Lance or the worst playoff QB of all time.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We'd be in a better position to compete in 2022 if Lance had played more last year. Jimmy was nothing special in 2021 and there's no reason to believe we couldn't have had similar success if Lance had started more games.

That's especially true for the playoffs where we made the NFCG despite Jimmy literally being statistically one of the worst playoff QBs of all time. Injuries aren't even an excuse for Jimmy's performance because he was equally as bad in 2019. He just isn't mentally strong enough for playoff football. Jimmy could not have taken NDSU to an FCS championship.

More Jimmy talk in Lance thread...

That post is entirely about Lance and how we delayed his development for no gain.

Garbage.

Please keep the Jimmy posts to the Jimmy thread.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Amazing how casually people make Mahomes- Lance comparisons because of the similar situations of the teams who drafted them.

Lance is bigger and faster than Mahomes. From a throwing the football perspective... they are not comparable. Mahomes is and was tiers above Lance in terms of arm talent. Lance won't ever be Mahomes with his current mechanics. And then of course there is the difference in experience, which is massive.

The people who are crowning Lance as an elite QB already (or an elite QB in waiting), against readily available evidence, are the first ones who will turn against him, and definitely Kyle, if/when he isn't elevating this Super Bowl ready team immediately. It won't be his fault of course. The fan expectations are through the roof simply because of fan loyalty and because of the cost paid in drafting him... and the timing for his development in conjunction with our SB window could not be worse. This was obvious last year.

There's a prediction a few pages back of Lance throwing 46 TDs and 11 INTs next season, lol. I mean JFC.

No one is forcing Kyle's hand in this situation. His recent statements make claim that Trey is ready to be the starter and that is still the plan going forward.

"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

You saw him play a full preseason, 2 spot starts, and the better part of a 3rd game.

If you saw anything in that play to believe he's a top tier starting QB in the NFL waiting to explode when given the opportunity, I'll have what you're having. He could not be trusted more than an injured sub-par Jimmy G. His play showed he needs a ton of work, and time. That really is ok... except for the fact that we can win right now.

With who at QB?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Amazing how casually people make Mahomes- Lance comparisons because of the similar situations of the teams who drafted them.

Lance is bigger and faster than Mahomes. From a throwing the football perspective... they are not comparable. Mahomes is and was tiers above Lance in terms of arm talent. Lance won't ever be Mahomes with his current mechanics. And then of course there is the difference in experience, which is massive.

The people who are crowning Lance as an elite QB already (or an elite QB in waiting), against readily available evidence, are the first ones who will turn against him, and definitely Kyle, if/when he isn't elevating this Super Bowl ready team immediately. It won't be his fault of course. The fan expectations are through the roof simply because of fan loyalty and because of the cost paid in drafting him... and the timing for his development in conjunction with our SB window could not be worse. This was obvious last year.

There's a prediction a few pages back of Lance throwing 46 TDs and 11 INTs next season, lol. I mean JFC.

Please explain what is wrong with his mechanics.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
This what I'm talkin bout! LFG!!

He ain't ready. #FTTT #FTTB pic.twitter.com/3jtADScpya

— Faithful to the Trey (@FaithfulTrey) March 31, 2022

The lack of definition in his legs has always baffled me. Looks solid up top then just straight tube legs. Even the non athlete qbs like the Manning's have defined calves. Must be that Minnesota build.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
What other option do we have than to be optimistic about Lance's development? You keep saying this is a SB ready team, but no team is SB ready without a QB and our only two options at that position are Lance or the worst playoff QB of all time.

As bad as Jimmy G is, we're a couple lucky plays away from having two rings with him at the helm.

The reality is there is no given Lance will ever be better than what Jimmy is right now. He definitely wasn't last year based on what I saw, and apparently the coaches and players on the team saw as well. That's why Jimmy G played. Thinking they played Jimmy G, *during a potential Super Bowl run*, just to enhance his trade value is sheer lunacy.

In any case I share your concern about the QB position. I just don't focus my frustration on what's happening now, because the critical mistake was made last April. We traded an amount of capital that could have landed an established elite QB, for a multi year project. Again this isn't Lance's fault and it's not a statement on what Lance could end up being in the future, including as early as next season. But we did waste a potential Super Bowl win by not upgrading at the most important position, or even other positions, last season. It really is unacceptable at the cost we paid.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Amazing how casually people make Mahomes- Lance comparisons because of the similar situations of the teams who drafted them.

Lance is bigger and faster than Mahomes. From a throwing the football perspective... they are not comparable. Mahomes is and was tiers above Lance in terms of arm talent. Lance won't ever be Mahomes with his current mechanics. And then of course there is the difference in experience, which is massive.

The people who are crowning Lance as an elite QB already (or an elite QB in waiting), against readily available evidence, are the first ones who will turn against him, and definitely Kyle, if/when he isn't elevating this Super Bowl ready team immediately. It won't be his fault of course. The fan expectations are through the roof simply because of fan loyalty and because of the cost paid in drafting him... and the timing for his development in conjunction with our SB window could not be worse. This was obvious last year.

There's a prediction a few pages back of Lance throwing 46 TDs and 11 INTs next season, lol. I mean JFC.

No one is forcing Kyle's hand in this situation. His recent statements make claim that Trey is ready to be the starter and that is still the plan going forward.

"That's why we looked into trading Jimmy, because we obviously believe Trey can be the starter and we're ready to do that," Shanahan said.

I will also add that if Kyle didn't believe Trey was ready, they wouldn't have been actively shopping Jimmy.

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
This what I'm talkin bout! LFG!!

He ain't ready. #FTTT #FTTB pic.twitter.com/3jtADScpya

— Faithful to the Trey (@FaithfulTrey) March 31, 2022

The lack of definition in his legs has always baffled me. Looks solid up top then just straight tube legs. Even the non athlete qbs like the Manning's have defined calves. Must be that Minnesota build.

Tube legs? Wtf lol

They look fine to me.