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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
If you're stating that Rodgers or Wilson is not elite, you need to have your football card revoked.
Like, ASAP.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by krizay:
5 months until wins becomes a QB stat again!
Yes! Trey will win plenty this year.
Looking forward to back to back winning seasons!!!
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by krizay:Stop cherry picking certain plays. You're telling me you'd rather have a Goff, Garoppolo, Cousins etc than Mahomes, Brady or another elite QB to try and reach the SB ?
Originally posted by tommyncal:
I think it's more than the media. GMs believe you do need a FQB , otherwise, they wouldn't be trading quality assets for them. Dump Goff bring in Stafford, dump Mayfield bring in Watson . I guess we'll wait and see how many SBs the Pats win with Mac.
Yes the same Stafford that threw a punt to Tartt that could've sealed their fate.
Also, I believe Goff too went to a SB with LAR with a lesser team.
Last time we saw Watson in the playoffs he and HOU blew a bigger lead to KC than Jimmy G and the 9ers.
Mahomes or Brady, no doubt, not sure if there are any other elites right now.
Hopefully Lance joins the list of elites.
Dude you just gonna ignore the MVP based on one game in which it was frozen? Rodgers is elite af. Fan bias makes some of us think one game determines the rule (and the truth is, Rodgers was the best QB on the field that game). I don't get it. The same arguments were made after week 10. Suddenly Stafford is garbage because Jimmy had a career game and Stafford had his worst game of the year. One game is not a large enough sample size to determine if a guy is good or bad in a season.
Also, I think most of us can agree that Josh Allen has taken that step into the elite category. And Wilson, sorry to say it, but he was having a typical top 8 season, as he always does. Herbert, if he's not there yet, is probably going to be soon.
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If you, again, organize these guys by most statistical metrics, you'll see three clear and distinguished tiers. Now, maybe you don't want to call all the tier one guys elite, and that's reasonable, since the slope for the top ten guys is pretty steep, but there's a huge drop off after them.
And I hate to be the bearer of even more pessimism, but the odds of Lance hitting that threshold are surely no better than 50/50.
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
)Incorrect, because in several different statistical rankings, the QBs most often fall into three major clusters of production.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
I think Trey does have the ceiling of an elite player. I'm pessimistic about reaching THAT height because very few players, very few talented players even, ever reach that height. I'll be happy with someone better than Jimmy.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
On a different note:
Trey Lance is the 3rd QB the 49ers have drafted 3rd overall, who also was the backup his rookie season. (Y.A. Tittle and John Brodie)
If history of a group is an indicator of the future particular members of the group (and generally it isn't so reliable), then Trey has a 50/50 chance of being a Hall of Famer.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Originally posted by NDSU:
He got a little more ink. Honestly, kind of meh.
Lol trash
Who is that. Nasty
Yea not gonna lie thats pretty wack. Good work by the artist but not a fan of the concept.
Meh, as long as he doesn't Tebow it up with a prayer for every TD, it doesn't really bother me.
Not saying it bothers me at all. I couldn't care less if he got dicks tatted all over his back. It's his body and he can do as he pleases. Just saying I'm really not feeling that design. Like I'd probably clown my boy if he got that.
It is curious this comes across the internet just ahead of the most important weekend of all for Christians around the world.
Trey Lance has made no secret of his faith. In fact, he has frequently expressed it in terms of his God-given abilities and how he sees football as a way to express his gratitude in public. For a fan base that hopes he is the savior of the franchise, now we see him express his hope in his personal savior. Let's allow him to freedom to do that as he works to fulfill our hopes on the football field.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of tattoos, however, this one draws on a scene in C. S. Lewis's famous book "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe." It is well-executed.
The bold is why he'd get ripped on if he wasn't such a boss. But I mean, C.S. Lewis got it from the Bible anyway (Lion of the Tribe of Judah), so it isn't necessarily from an allegory written for children. As a painting, I'd think it was dope af. Not sure as a tattoo, but whatever, people put art on their body things they feel embody them as a person.
I just hope he doesn't ever leave his faith, because then it'd just be awkward.
Also, kudos for pointing out the timing. I find it hard to believe it was a coincidence.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:Originally posted by Blake_Fever:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
If you're stating that Rodgers or Wilson is not elite, you need to have your football card revoked.
Like, ASAP.
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
If you're stating that Rodgers or Wilson is not elite, you need to have your football card revoked.
Like, ASAP.
This
Not as elite as Brady or Mahomes so not elite IMO.
Great QBs of this generation, no doubt.
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
On a different note:
Trey Lance is the 3rd QB the 49ers have drafted 3rd overall, who also was the backup his rookie season. (Y.A. Tittle and John Brodie)
If history of a group is an indicator of the future particular members of the group (and generally it isn't so reliable), then Trey has a 50/50 chance of being a Hall of Famer.
Now that's a reaching for the stars kind of a comparison but optimism never hurts. 😊
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
Originally posted by random49er:
Elite = Level of Play. Right? Not team accomplishments.
So how do you then measure someone's level of play by a team's accomplishment?
Different QB thread,...but Woo once again falling down the same exact rabbit hole.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
Aaron Rodgers isin't/hasn't been elite? Uhhhh,....ok.
Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Dude has one ring. He isn't elite.
I can have as man6 tiers as I want, there is no more merit in three tiers than four or five.
Trey has the ceiling of an elite player.
Not sure why you want to.be pessimistic about Trey and so defensive of Rodgers here.
This is a time of great hope, the team is so strong.
Aaron Rodgers isin't/hasn't been elite? Uhhhh,....ok.
Rodgers yes, Wilson no.
