Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by random49er:

Elite = Level of Play. Right? Not team accomplishments.

So how do you then measure someone's level of play by a team's accomplishment?

Different QB thread,...but Woo once again falling down the same exact rabbit hole.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Who are the all time elite QBs?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Ask Dan Marino if it's a team sport. On of the greatest QBs and maybe the best pure passer ever and he saw one SB and no titles. Same for Stafford. All those years struggling with Detroit and he goes to a team with real talent and they win a title.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Ask Dan Marino if it's a team sport. On of the greatest QBs and maybe the best pure passer ever and he saw one SB and no titles. Same for Stafford. All those years struggling with Detroit and he goes to a team with real talent and they win a title.

I can with full confidence say it was not Aaron Rodgers fault the Packers gave up 181 yard rushing to Kap. I can with full confidence say it was not Aaron Rodgers fault the Packers gave up 200+ yards to Mostert. The most recent Playoff game I would say was Rodgers fault though

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Who are the all time elite QBs?

Is Steve Young elite in your rating?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I fail to see how Wilson isn't elite. 9 Pro Bowl selections. Career 6.2 TD% to a mere 1.8 INT%. Five 30+ TD seasons, four of which came with over 4000 yards passing. Routinely generates MVP discussion for segments of the season. The best deep ball in the NFL. Five seasons with over 500 yards rushing. Steals victory from the jaws of defeat against us on a regular basis. Fourth highest passer rating of all time. Been in the top ten in Total QBR all but two seasons in his career. Tied with Drew Brees and Y.A. Tittle on the 4th quarter comeback ranking.

Had he played all 17 games his TD/INT stats extrapolate to 31 TDs, 8 INTs.

I can't imagine that not being elite, as in, around the top 7 or 8 QBs (after this group, most statistical measures plummet, until the next plateau is reached).

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I fail to see how Wilson isn't elite. 9 Pro Bowl selections. Career 6.2 TD% to a mere 1.8 INT%. Five 30+ TD seasons, four of which came with over 4000 yards passing. Routinely generates MVP discussion for segments of the season. The best deep ball in the NFL. Five seasons with over 500 yards rushing. Steals victory from the jaws of defeat against us on a regular basis. Fourth highest passer rating of all time. Been in the top ten in Total QBR all but two seasons in his career. Tied with Drew Brees and Y.A. Tittle on the 4th quarter comeback ranking.

Had he played all 17 games his TD/INT stats extrapolate to 31 TDs, 8 INTs.

I can't imagine that not being elite, as in, around the top 7 or 8 QBs (after this group, most statistical measures plummet, until the next plateau is reached).

Kirk Cousins 4 years in Minnesota

5.8 TD%
1.7 INT%

3 out of 4 30+ TD seasons 3 of 4 over 4,000 yards passing. 2 out of 4 pro Bowls. With a higher QB rating than Wilson.

Yet he's never considered elite.

Originally posted by NDSU:
Because people have eyes. He is not "elite".

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
People still haven't figured out that football is a team sport I see.

Ask Dan Marino if it's a team sport. On of the greatest QBs and maybe the best pure passer ever and he saw one SB and no titles. Same for Stafford. All those years struggling with Detroit and he goes to a team with real talent and they win a title.

I can with full confidence say it was not Aaron Rodgers fault the Packers gave up 181 yard rushing to Kap. I can with full confidence say it was not Aaron Rodgers fault the Packers gave up 200+ yards to Mostert. The most recent Playoff game I would say was Rodgers fault though

seems to me. when rodgers faces adversity with us in the playoffs. he gets disinterested.. kind of a bad thing for an elite qb.. guys like brady and joe and young would just get pissed and play better. maybe i am wrong